Tighter controls on lower-skilled foreigners help local employment: Tan See Leng
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https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/p...n-see-leng
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whats he smoking?
in other words asking sinkies to be construction workers?
wall a sell out

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Wtf is wrong with the PAP??!!? Which part of the PMET job and white collar jobs Singaporeans want is not clear? Why the F...k keep asking Singaporeans to work hard labour jobs??
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(27-02-2023, 03:41 PM)Sticw Wrote:  Wtf is wrong with the PAP??!!? Which part of the PMET job and white collar jobs Singaporeans want is not clear? Why the F...k keep asking Singaporeans to work hard labour jobs??

They (MIW) cannot provide enough jobs for our PMETs...................many had opted to drive taxis or GRAB......... crying
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(27-02-2023, 03:41 PM)Sticw Wrote:  Wtf is wrong with the PAP??!!? Which part of the PMET job and white collar jobs Singaporeans want is not clear? Why the F...k keep asking Singaporeans to work hard labour jobs??

all PMETs want PAP to tighten control on high-skilled foreigners so that they do not need to compete with foreigners for high-skilled jobs.

PAP is doing the reverse to tighten the control on low-skilled foreigners and no control on high-skilled foreigners.
it means more PMETs will be unemployed if more high-skilled foreigners take up jobs.
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Knn people ask him to control PMET job he go and control low menial blue collar job . His ear got problems or his brain spoil
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(27-02-2023, 03:59 PM)Bigiron Wrote:  Knn people ask him to control PMET job he go and control low menial blue collar job . His ear got problems or his brain spoil

Most probably his brain spoil........................ Big Grin
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(27-02-2023, 03:24 PM)wendychan Wrote:  whats he smoking?
in other words asking sinkies to be construction workers?
wall  a sell  out

What's so sell-out or xia suay about this? 

Only in SG do people have this stupid coloured lens of viewing one's worth and value in life or society according to whether they're doing a white collar or blue collar job. 

In many developed countries, being a builder building houses and property is seen as a skilled and respectable job. 

SG's present housing shortage system is also majorly caused by the fact that two years of Covid screwed SG over due to its exclusive reliance on foreign cheap manual labour to build its BTO flats. Demand outstripped supply, supply got choked due to manpower shortages. If SG had more locals in the building industry, this could have very well been ameliorated. 

If SG construction industry is behkan in improving its image and becoming hi-tech and professionalised to appeal to graduates, then it and SG society has only themselves to blame. 

LOW SKILLED DOES NOT MEAN LOW DEPENDENCE OR IMPORTANCE. Globalisation is over. If SG does not fill its so-called "low skilled" industry jobs with more locals, the "high skilled" economy will suffer. Simple as that.
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(27-02-2023, 03:59 PM)Bigiron Wrote:  Knn people ask him to control PMET job he go and control low menial blue collar job . His ear got problems or his brain spoil

This is the problem with SG society. 

Everybody want to be officer. 

But nobody want to be man. 

Who do the saikang on the ground? Forever outsource to foreigners? How sustainable is that? 

Asking any politician to control PMET jobs from being taken up by foreign workers is missing the reality that the next industrial revolution will be coming after the PMET jobs. 

In 20 years time, watch half of the PMET jobs disappear as companies increasingly automate and use AI to do them. 

But by then, the low menial blue collar jobs will still exist and need doing. You cannot fully automate contructing buildings. You cannot fully automate waste disposal. You cannot fully automate cleaning. You cannot fully automate driving. You cannot (and many places already proved this is not desirable in the first place) fully automate cooking/F&B. 

They're deemed "low menial blue collar jobs" because Sinkies lack the imagination and the drive to make them high skilled and respectable jobs. We think the world is such that forever there will be poorer countries than SG where their citizens will be happy to come to SG and do the jobs Sinkies don't want to do for reasons of hardship and egos. 

That world is fast disappearing. 

And SG society is going to get a rude awakening in the coming decades.
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(27-02-2023, 04:35 PM)Basic_Strategy Wrote:  This is the problem with SG society. 

Everybody want to be officer. 

But nobody want to be man. 

Who do the saikang on the ground? Forever outsource to foreigners? How sustainable is that? 

Asking any politician to control PMET jobs from being taken up by foreign workers is missing the reality that the next industrial revolution will be coming after the PMET jobs. 

In 20 years time, watch half of the PMET jobs disappear as companies increasingly automate and use AI to do them. 

But by then, the low menial blue collar jobs will still exist and need doing. You cannot fully automate contructing buildings. You cannot fully automate waste disposal. You cannot fully automate cleaning. You cannot fully automate driving. You cannot (and many places already proved this is not desirable in the first place) fully automate cooking/F&B. 

They're deemed "low menial blue collar jobs" because Sinkies lack the imagination and the drive to make them high skilled and respectable jobs. We think the world is such that forever there will be poorer countries than SG where their citizens will be happy to come to SG and do the jobs Sinkies don't want to do for reasons of hardship and egos. 

That world is fast disappearing. 

And SG society is going to get a rude awakening in the coming decades.

Well said..............I can identify with your thoughts...................... Clapping
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(27-02-2023, 04:27 PM)Basic_Strategy Wrote:  What's so sell-out or xia suay about this? 

Only in SG do people have this stupid coloured lens of viewing one's worth and value in life or society according to whether they're doing a white collar or blue collar job. 

In many developed countries, being a builder building houses and property is seen as a skilled and respectable job. 

SG's present housing shortage system is also majorly caused by the fact that two years of Covid screwed SG over due to its exclusive reliance on foreign cheap manual labour to build its BTO flats. Demand outstripped supply, supply got choked due to manpower shortages. If SG had more locals in the building industry, this could have very well been ameliorated. 

If SG construction industry is behkan in improving its image and becoming hi-tech and professionalised to appeal to graduates, then it and SG society has only themselves to blame. 

LOW SKILLED DOES NOT MEAN LOW DEPENDENCE OR IMPORTANCE. Globalisation is over. If SG does not fill its so-called "low skilled" industry jobs with more locals, the "high skilled" economy will suffer. Simple as that.
They want to maintain the packing order, and seriously construction sector is not ready to absorb high cost of locals. Until that inequality narrows then can ask Singaporeans to do blue collar jobs lah. Who don't want to have the cake and eat it...
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(27-02-2023, 05:17 PM)Sticw Wrote:  They want to maintain the packing order, and seriously construction sector is not ready to absorb high cost of locals. Until that inequality narrows then can ask Singaporeans to do blue collar jobs lah. Who don't want to have the cake and eat it...

Quite true, our construction sector is not ready to absorb high cost of the locals..............until that is resolved, we will continue to see bangla doing low skill Big Grin construction jobs.............
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Then why this mom don't resign and take up low skill job ..knn
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(27-02-2023, 05:23 PM)Bigiron Wrote:  Then why this mom don't resign and take up low skill job ..knn

They won't resign cos it is an iron rice bowl job........................ Big Grin
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(27-02-2023, 04:41 PM)debono Wrote:  Well said..............I can identify with your thoughts...................... Clapping

U farking love to suck everyone cok. Rotfl
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(27-02-2023, 05:28 PM)debono Wrote:  They won't resign cos it is an iron rice bowl job........................ Big Grin

Plus if the survey is true then why TPL is parachute into top job why she no go take up low skills job . Why har?
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(27-02-2023, 05:41 PM)Bigiron Wrote:  Plus if the survey is true then why TPL is parachute into top job why she no go take up low skills job . Why har?

MP dignity at stake...
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and seriously people buying into these double standard hypocrities on all these so called ''controls''

by compromising this;

CECA DP holders are once again free to search for jobs and get employed and allowing more villagers and forming their enclaves once again

just by looking at this happened days ago;

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indeed

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(27-02-2023, 03:24 PM)wendychan Wrote:  whats he smoking?
in other words asking sinkies to be construction workers?
wall  a sell  out


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the PAP always want sinkies to do low level job like grab or security guards.

higher paying jobs reserved for CECA with fake qualification.
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The only real problem solver in PAP was Khaw Boon Wan. The rest only know how to churn out motherhood statements.
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More CECAs for cushy jobs. That’s what the MIW want until the CECAs replace them
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(27-02-2023, 04:27 PM)Basic_Strategy Wrote:  LOW SKILLED DOES NOT MEAN LOW DEPENDENCE OR IMPORTANCE. Globalisation is over. If SG does not fill its so-called "low skilled" industry jobs with more locals, the "high skilled" economy will suffer. Simple as that.



Please get your children and PAP's children to do LOW- skilled job, lor

why make us study so hard to be Low- skilled

while FTs come as fake high skilled

Sack half the Mayors & PAP Ministers
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Might as well close down tertiary institutions. What is the point? And shut off skillfuture course also
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(27-02-2023, 09:43 PM)Bigiron Wrote:  Might as well close down tertiary institutions. What is the point? And shut off skillfuture course also



Siao! PAP said we have World Class Education but end up low- skill

Can the 61% idiots tell me base on what to vote for PAP?

Base on stupidity, arh? 


PAP still praise our World Class Education SAI.
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Sack half the Mayors & PAP Ministers
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(27-02-2023, 09:43 PM)Bigiron Wrote:  Might as well close down tertiary institutions. What is the point? And shut off skillfuture course also

Actually I agree with this. SG is so small yet why is it we have so many universities? Boggles the mind. We're sending too many people into uni when it's increasingly diminishing returns for graduates in the job market today. 

Skillsfuture is useful. But the problem is the current programmes are not properly audited. So you get a lot of mickey mouse Skillsfuture courses that don't really value add and serve only to earn the course founders money off the public and the government.
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(27-02-2023, 09:37 PM)Ola Wrote:  Please get your children and PAP's children to do LOW- skilled job, lor

why make us study so hard to be Low- skilled

while FTs come as fake high skilled

If FTs come as real high skilled you'd still want them out and say they're competing too much with local Sinkies.
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