[sgbuffett]

[Sharexchange]

Yes its good

[Napoleon Porlumpar]

Yes its good

what are people waiting for ??

far less risky than stocks.................can make 50% in a couple years..................

sell off then buy new ones................compound...............then compound...............

[pervertosan]

last 2 yrs very good. now grey market down about 5% from peak in feb

[Napoleon Porlumpar]

last 2 yrs very good. now grey market down about 5% from peak in feb

so buy from local agent................then years later sell to consumers or 2nd hand dealers.................all done locally ??

[pervertosan]

so buy from local agent................then years later sell to consumers or 2nd hand dealers.................all done locally ??

hard to get from auth dealer now….very limited supply even for regulars…new customers wait almost a year

[sgbuffett]

hard to get from auth dealer now….very limited supply even for regulars…new customers wait almost a year

If watch is good one year wait is worth it.

[Napoleon Porlumpar]

hard to get from auth dealer now….very limited supply even for regulars…new customers wait almost a year

i think these dealers are purposely not selling to create demand................

only certain models and brands can make money, right ?................so dealers keep those models to sell at higher prices later lah............

[pervertosan]

If watch is good one year wait is worth it.

process not as simple..u need to buy unpopular watches to qualify for the good ones..waiting now is even for very basic models..investing in grey market is the alternative

i think these dealers are purposely not selling to create demand................

only certain models and brands can make money, right ?................so dealers keep those models to sell at higher prices later lah............

no lah..dealer must sell watch at published prices…but they will make u buy zero appreciation models to get the good ones…in the end still u can profit from the good ones but unpopular one will sell at loss unless u want to wear

[Napoleon Porlumpar]

process not as simple..u need to buy unpopular watches to qualify for the good ones..waiting now is even for very basic models..investing in grey market is the alternative


no lah..dealer must sell watch at published prices…but they will make u buy zero appreciation models to get the good ones…in the end still u can profit from the good ones but unpopular one will sell at loss unless u want to wear

agent can refuse to sell certain models to customers ??

what's grey market ?

[pervertosan]

agent can refuse to sell certain models to customers ??

what's grey market ?

yes agent can decide which regular customers they allocate good watches to

grey is second hand watch dealers like watch capital not the auth dealers like hourglass and cortina

[sgbuffett]

Recently I learned about this watch mechanism called :"Spring Drive" only found in "Grand Seiko".

Really impressive. I think it is worth collecting....anyone knows about this?

[Tangsen]

2022 models are out ….. forget about list price …. be prepare to pay 2-3x at least if you manage to get one 

https://www.rolex.com

[Tangsen]

Recently I learned about this watch mechanism called :"Spring Drive" only found in "Grand Seiko".

Really impressive. I think it is worth collecting....anyone knows about this?

Nope …. no resale value ...

[Napoleon Porlumpar]

yes agent can decide which regular customers they allocate good watches to

grey is second hand watch dealers like watch capital not the auth dealers like hourglass and cortina

if complain to manufacturer itself ??

[Napoleon Porlumpar]

Recently I learned about this watch mechanism called :"Spring Drive" only found in "Grand Seiko".

Really impressive. I think it is worth collecting....anyone knows about this?

Spring Drive has been around for ages even in the lower Seiko ranges..............

[sgbuffett]

Spring Drive has been around for ages even in the lower Seiko ranges..............

Yes buy still impressive took decades to perfect and solve many problems.

Also read Seiko mechanical watches even without spring drive were so accurate, the Swiss stop having completion on mechanical watch accuracy.

[Napoleon Porlumpar]

Yes buy still impressive took decades to perfect and solve many problems.

Also read Seiko mechanical watches even without spring drive were so accurate, the Swiss stop having completion on mechanical watch accuracy.

Grand Seiko is more for people that want fantastic watches without showing off...............

the designs are too understated and conservative though..........