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Ukraine War : Desperate, Russia starts killing civilian...
12-10-2022, 07:43 AM
I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.
12-10-2022, 10:26 AM
12-10-2022, 10:43 AM
12-10-2022, 10:58 AM
Putin lossing 70,000 soldiers in Ukraine. And 25,000 is trap with Winter coning.
https://youtu.be/--Yi1dtfAVw
https://youtu.be/--Yi1dtfAVw
12-10-2022, 11:09 AM
12-10-2022, 11:43 AM
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12-10-2022, 12:03 PM
(12-10-2022, 07:43 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: https://theconversation.com/ukraine-war-...ans-192222
As Putin turns 70 on Friday, He have 9years to 2031 to bye-bye, (9-years) to Russian President Vladimir Putin to finds himself in the eye of a storm of his own making: with 70,000+ soldier with him.
His army is suffering humiliating defeats in Ukraine. Hundreds of thousands 1,000,000 of Russians are fleeing his mobilization order, and his top army, lieutenants are publicly insulting military leaders.
With his room for maneuvering narrowing, Putin has repeatedly signaled that he could resort to nuclear weapons to protect the Russian gains lost in Ukraine — a harrowing threat that shatters the claims of stability he has repeated throughout his 22-year rule.
“This is really a hard moment for him, but he can’t accuse anyone else. He did it himself,” said Andrei Kolesnikov, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment. “And he is going straight ahead to big, big problems.”
By unleashing the disastrous war in Ukraine, Europe’s largest military conflict since World War II, Putin has broken an unwritten social contract in which Russians tacitly agreed to forgo post-Soviet political freedoms in exchange for relative prosperity and internal stability.
Crimean peninsula...
https://thehill.com/policy/international...gnificant/
12-10-2022, 12:24 PM
Blantant firing of missiles on civilian target is a war crime. Putin should be charged. Similarly, if Ukraine fire a few missiles into Russia, they will cry war crime or terrorism.
12-10-2022, 12:45 PM
As Putin turns 70 on Friday, He have 9years to 2031 to bye-bye, (9-years) to Russian President Vladimir Putin to finds himself in the eye of a storm of his own making: with 70,000+ soldier with him.
His army is suffering humiliating defeats in Ukraine
Here are some of the reasons why the Kerch Bridge explosion is significant in the wider war.
The Kerch Bridge affect Putin personally, "This will likely touch President Putin closely; it came hours after his 70th birthday, he personally sponsored and opened the bridge, and its construction contractor was his childhood friend,” the update cautioned.
The bridge is viewed as the Russian leader’s major, concrete manifestation of his stated claims to retake Ukraine.
Putin celebrated the opening of the nearly $4 billion bridge in 2018 by driving a dump truck across the span as international powers condemned its construction as violation of international law and rejected Russia’s claims to Crimea.
Russian logistics ‘crippled’ The explosion also dealt a blow to Russia’s war effort, cutting off a crucial avenue for Russian troops and supplies.
The incident halted train and automobile traffic and has reduced the transit potential of the 12-mile bridge, which bypasses the Kerch Strait.
The bridge is Russia’s most important link to neighboring Ukraine, as the entryways through other recently annexed areas are less established and more difficult to access.
Timothy Snyder, Yale historian of Russia and Ukraine, tweeted on Saturday that the bridge explosion “cripples Russian logistics and dissolves the major symbol of Putin’s power.”
A bridge engineer told The Wall Street Journal that it would take several months to restore damaged sections of the bridge.
While Kyiv hasn’t claimed responsibility for the explosion, some Ukrainian officials celebrated the incident. The official Twitter account for Ukraine’s government posted Saturday night, sharing just the English phrase “sick burn.”
While many Russians view the Kerch Bridge as a symbol of Moscow’s influence in the area, many Ukrainians see the bridge as representative of Russian occupation.
“The guided missile cruiser Moskva and Kerch Bridge – two notorious symbols of russian power in Ukrainian Crimea – have gone down. What’s next in line, russkies Putin?” Ukraine’s Defense Ministry tweeted Saturday, referencing the bridge collapse and damage earlier this year to an important Russian warship.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky responded to the explosion in his address Saturday night, saying the future for Ukraine is “sunny. “This is a future without occupiers. Throughout our territory, in particular in the Crimea,” he said.
Heightens nuclear fears. Putin has also put the international community on high alert with his recent rhetoric about nuclear weapons.
“He’s a cornered … animal and I think he’s [become] more and more dangerous,” Mullen said. “I think we have to take him seriously and think through what the requirements would be to respond to that. It also speaks to the need to get to the table.”
His army is suffering humiliating defeats in Ukraine
Here are some of the reasons why the Kerch Bridge explosion is significant in the wider war.
The Kerch Bridge affect Putin personally, "This will likely touch President Putin closely; it came hours after his 70th birthday, he personally sponsored and opened the bridge, and its construction contractor was his childhood friend,” the update cautioned.
The bridge is viewed as the Russian leader’s major, concrete manifestation of his stated claims to retake Ukraine.
Putin celebrated the opening of the nearly $4 billion bridge in 2018 by driving a dump truck across the span as international powers condemned its construction as violation of international law and rejected Russia’s claims to Crimea.
Russian logistics ‘crippled’ The explosion also dealt a blow to Russia’s war effort, cutting off a crucial avenue for Russian troops and supplies.
The incident halted train and automobile traffic and has reduced the transit potential of the 12-mile bridge, which bypasses the Kerch Strait.
The bridge is Russia’s most important link to neighboring Ukraine, as the entryways through other recently annexed areas are less established and more difficult to access.
Timothy Snyder, Yale historian of Russia and Ukraine, tweeted on Saturday that the bridge explosion “cripples Russian logistics and dissolves the major symbol of Putin’s power.”
A bridge engineer told The Wall Street Journal that it would take several months to restore damaged sections of the bridge.
While Kyiv hasn’t claimed responsibility for the explosion, some Ukrainian officials celebrated the incident. The official Twitter account for Ukraine’s government posted Saturday night, sharing just the English phrase “sick burn.”
While many Russians view the Kerch Bridge as a symbol of Moscow’s influence in the area, many Ukrainians see the bridge as representative of Russian occupation.
“The guided missile cruiser Moskva and Kerch Bridge – two notorious symbols of russian power in Ukrainian Crimea – have gone down. What’s next in line, russkies Putin?” Ukraine’s Defense Ministry tweeted Saturday, referencing the bridge collapse and damage earlier this year to an important Russian warship.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky responded to the explosion in his address Saturday night, saying the future for Ukraine is “sunny. “This is a future without occupiers. Throughout our territory, in particular in the Crimea,” he said.
Heightens nuclear fears. Putin has also put the international community on high alert with his recent rhetoric about nuclear weapons.
“He’s a cornered … animal and I think he’s [become] more and more dangerous,” Mullen said. “I think we have to take him seriously and think through what the requirements would be to respond to that. It also speaks to the need to get to the table.”
12-10-2022, 01:47 PM
(12-10-2022, 07:43 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: https://theconversation.com/ukraine-war-...ans-192222By doing these, Russia is already confirmed a terrorist state. Putin shd be put to death.
12-10-2022, 01:55 PM
(12-10-2022, 01:47 PM)Gemstar Wrote: By doing these, Russia is already confirmed a terrorist state. Putin shd be put to death.
Ok, Bush and Obama should hang too. Biden also lah.... dont forget.

12-10-2022, 02:00 PM
12-10-2022, 02:02 PM
12-10-2022, 02:24 PM
(12-10-2022, 01:55 PM)Niubee Wrote: Ok, Bush and Obama should hang too. Biden also lah.... dont forget.
Bush ahh? He put to death 1000 times still cannot redeem the life of those Iraqi civilians. That was an unprovoked war and US indiscriminately bomb almost every buildings and holes. And our G blindly supported him.
12-10-2022, 02:38 PM
dun double standards. when us does this then it is moral.
https://youtu.be/0yr-LaMhvro?t=297
https://youtu.be/dxEjSr6rYXU?t=7
https://youtu.be/0yr-LaMhvro?t=297
https://youtu.be/dxEjSr6rYXU?t=7
12-10-2022, 02:46 PM
(12-10-2022, 02:24 PM)Clyde Wrote: Bush ahh? He put to death 1000 times still cannot redeem the life of those Iraqi civilians. That was an unprovoked war and US indiscriminately bomb almost every buildings and holes. And our G blindly supported him.
Our special force was there too I heard.
One thing for sure, our special force was in Afghanistan.

12-10-2022, 03:08 PM
This is Libya :
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This is Syria :
![[Image: homs.jpeg?itok=G2EgbPGo]](https://www.mei.edu/sites/default/files/styles/featured_image_article/public/homs.jpeg?itok=G2EgbPGo)
This is Iraq :
![[Image: mosul-raqqa-victor-blue-13.jpg]](https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/mosul-raqqa-victor-blue-13.jpg)
This is Yugoslavia :
![[Image: cultural-sites-destroyed-in-war-gettyima...512616.jpg]](https://www.history.com/.image/ar_16:9%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cg_faces:center%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_768/MTY5NjI1OTkyNDM5MDE1MTE4/cultural-sites-destroyed-in-war-gettyimages-518512616.jpg)
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Who were so barbaric???
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![[Image: 20200414-nyt-libya_commander_3-0-ac.jpg?itok=ZdCUN_F7]](https://www.usip.org/sites/default/files/styles/image_with_caption/public/2020-04/20200414-nyt-libya_commander_3-0-ac.jpg?itok=ZdCUN_F7)
This is Syria :
![[Image: homs.jpeg?itok=G2EgbPGo]](https://www.mei.edu/sites/default/files/styles/featured_image_article/public/homs.jpeg?itok=G2EgbPGo)
This is Iraq :
![[Image: mosul-raqqa-victor-blue-13.jpg]](https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/mosul-raqqa-victor-blue-13.jpg)
This is Yugoslavia :
![[Image: cultural-sites-destroyed-in-war-gettyima...512616.jpg]](https://www.history.com/.image/ar_16:9%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cg_faces:center%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_768/MTY5NjI1OTkyNDM5MDE1MTE4/cultural-sites-destroyed-in-war-gettyimages-518512616.jpg)
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Who were so barbaric???

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12-10-2022, 03:30 PM
12-10-2022, 09:23 PM
(12-10-2022, 12:45 PM)Teeth53 Wrote: As Putin turns 70 on Friday, He have 9years to 2031 to bye-bye, (9-years) to Russian President Vladimir Putin to finds himself in the eye of a storm of his own making: with 70,000+ soldier with him.
His army is suffering humiliating defeats in Ukraine
Here are some of the reasons why the Kerch Bridge explosion is significant in the wider war.
The Kerch Bridge affect Putin personally, "This will likely touch President Putin closely; it came hours after his 70th birthday, he personally sponsored and opened the bridge, and its construction contractor was his childhood friend,” the update cautioned.
The bridge is viewed as the Russian leader’s major, concrete manifestation of his stated claims to retake Ukraine.
Putin celebrated the opening of the nearly $4 billion bridge in 2018 by driving a dump truck across the span as international powers condemned its construction as violation of international law and rejected Russia’s claims to Crimea.
Russian logistics ‘crippled’ The explosion also dealt a blow to Russia’s war effort, cutting off a crucial avenue for Russian troops and supplies.
The incident halted train and automobile traffic and has reduced the transit potential of the 12-mile bridge, which bypasses the Kerch Strait.
The bridge is Russia’s most important link to neighboring Ukraine, as the entryways through other recently annexed areas are less established and more difficult to access.
Timothy Snyder, Yale historian of Russia and Ukraine, tweeted on Saturday that the bridge explosion “cripples Russian logistics and dissolves the major symbol of Putin’s power.”
A bridge engineer told The Wall Street Journal that it would take several months to restore damaged sections of the bridge.
While Kyiv hasn’t claimed responsibility for the explosion, some Ukrainian officials celebrated the incident. The official Twitter account for Ukraine’s government posted Saturday night, sharing just the English phrase “sick burn.”
While many Russians view the Kerch Bridge as a symbol of Moscow’s influence in the area, many Ukrainians see the bridge as representative of Russian occupation.
“The guided missile cruiser Moskva and Kerch Bridge – two notorious symbols of russian power in Ukrainian Crimea – have gone down. What’s next in line, russkies Putin?” Ukraine’s Defense Ministry tweeted Saturday, referencing the bridge collapse and damage earlier this year to an important Russian warship.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky responded to the explosion in his address Saturday night, saying the future for Ukraine is “sunny. “This is a future without occupiers. Throughout our territory, in particular in the Crimea,” he said.
Heightens nuclear fears. Putin has also put the international community on high alert with his recent rhetoric about nuclear weapons.
“He’s a cornered … animal and I think he’s [become] more and more dangerous,” Mullen said. “I think we have to take him seriously and think through what the requirements would be to respond to that. It also speaks to the need to get to the table.”
Shortly after 8am local time on Monday (0500 GMT), Putin missiles hit upscale neighbourhood, less than a minute and 300m apart. In the streets by the park, apartment block windows have been blown out and glass shards litter the ground.
The blasts were so powerful that they ripped the door of a bar restaurant, before employees began sweeping up the debris. first blast hit a crossroads, close to a white, three-story administrative building.
A missile dug a crater in the road, raising up the asphalt. Several cars parked there were now only twisted and blackened wrecks.
THEY'RE KILLING CIVILIANS". killing by Putin moob.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/uk...es-3000266
12-10-2022, 11:14 PM
12-10-2022, 11:17 PM
12-10-2022, 11:28 PM
(12-10-2022, 11:14 PM)Oyk Wrote: So we should let Putin be. Kill Ukrainian civilians? Never mind. It's okay. Why? Just quote your post over and over, and Putin will be ok...
Stupid no brainer... cannot sit on table and nego ? Study so much yet not even an atom of brain to think of nego ?
Stupid morons only think of Win and Lose. Nego is not an option ? Want my dog to teach u all these ?

12-10-2022, 11:37 PM
(12-10-2022, 11:28 PM)Niubee Wrote: Stupid no brainer... cannot sit on table and nego ? Study so much yet not even an atom of brain to think of nego ?
Stupid morons only think of Win and Lose. Nego is not an option ? Want my dog to teach u all these ?
Ukraine had nego with Russia before. Putin was non-negotiable. The talks failed.,
So what nego are you on about here again?
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