Under Biden or Trump, US will be unreliable partner in Asia
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US very insecure type. 
Cannot lose their number one status. 
Lie to their people, China is using force labour. That's why China things so much cheaper. 
The truth is automation. 
The people wouldn't believe that China can progress at such speed.
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One is a convicted criminal, the other is a half dead senile octogenarian.

How to be reliable?
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It really makes no differences as long as China is ignoring UNCLOS rulings and insist its claim on 9 or 10 dash lines.
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(05-07-2024, 10:11 AM)revealer Wrote:  It really makes no differences as long as China is ignoring UNCLOS rulings and insist its claim on 9 or 10 dash lines.

FYI - US has NEVER sign nor ratified the UNCLOS - 

Don't have to thank me for reminding the double-standard Americans has been doing - An Unreliable USA isn't just about who their President is, but rather its long-held arrogance of America "Exceptionalism".

https://www.voanews.com/a/united-states-...64342.html

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If got any country think not reliable, can always don't partner US. No one is forcing that country to partner US.
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(05-07-2024, 10:40 AM)Manthink Wrote:  FYI - US has NEVER sign nor ratified the UNCLOS - 

Don't have to thank me for reminding the double-standard Americans has been doing - An Unreliable USA isn't just about who their President is, but rather its long-held arrogance of America "Exceptionalism".

The US objected to Part IV of UNCLOS about archipelagic states. They claimed that the provisions of the treaty were not free-market friendly.

Quote:The United States objected to Part XI of the Convention on several grounds, arguing that the treaty was unfavorable to American economic and security interests. The U.S. claimed that the provisions of the treaty were not free-market friendly and were designed to favor the economic systems of the Communist states.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_United_Nations_Convention_on_the_Law_of_the_Sea&ved=2ahUKEwiCwvWZ846HAxUtS2wGHV2SAmgQFnoECA4QAw&usg=AOvVaw3JFWDSHMkw54OqKZKg6ggm

China has ratified UNCLOS, yet it ignores the UNCLOS ruling. Who is wrong here?



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(05-07-2024, 10:40 AM)Manthink Wrote:  FYI - US has NEVER sign nor ratified the UNCLOS - 

Don't have to thank me for reminding the double-standard Americans has been doing - An Unreliable USA isn't just about who their President is, but rather its long-held arrogance of America "Exceptionalism".

https://www.voanews.com/a/united-states-...64342.html

If one has agreed to an agreement and later dishonored it. This is dishonesty punishable by law in countries.
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(05-07-2024, 11:03 AM)teaserteam Wrote:  The US objected to Part IV of UNCLOS about archipelagic states.  They claimed that the provisions of the treaty were not free-market friendly.
China has ratified UNCLOS,  yet it ignores the UNCLOS ruling.  Who is wrong here?

LOL!..Pray tell when has China "ignores" the UN agreement and had the UN passed any judgement on  ?

Perhaps it is better that you explain what is "free market friendly" in Americans terms.....which interestingly, US politics and policies is as confused as Biden foggy mind... Big Grin

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(05-07-2024, 10:41 AM)idiosyncrasy Wrote:  If got any country think not reliable, can always don't partner US. No one is forcing that country to partner US.

Err... my last check confirms more countries want to join non-USD BRICS... No one is forcing any country to do become its partner leh... Big Grin 

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/interna...nded-brics

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(05-07-2024, 10:11 AM)revealer Wrote:  It really makes no differences as long as China is ignoring UNCLOS rulings and insist its claim on 9 or 10 dash lines.

Legitimate rights


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(05-07-2024, 11:09 AM)revealer Wrote:  If one has agreed to an agreement and later dishonored it. This is dishonesty punishable by law in countries.

We all know the US loves talking about "freedom" and "human rights"...flunt those unempty promises and still get away with Washington lies and deceits.

Problem is we know it is just another American "dishonesty" at an International scale....

It is not unlike having blind faith on USD ....End of the Day, we know who had been Crying Wolf all along. Big Grin

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(05-07-2024, 10:11 AM)revealer Wrote:  It really makes no differences as long as China is ignoring UNCLOS rulings and insist its claim on 9 or 10 dash lines.

China didn't even use its arsenal which it has stood ready to fight the proxy war over Taiwan.  If it ever gets worse, then it shant be a proxy war but one which will draw Russia and North Korea in on one side, and the US and NATO in on the other side. It would be the 3rd world war lorh.

What she had only done so far was to bring some sticks nia, maybe did a few Tai Chi maneuvers with it, and the Filipino commandos were sent fleeing for their lives.

Still want to talk about the nine dash line?  Might is right.

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(05-07-2024, 11:40 AM)Niubee Wrote:  Legitimate rights

Some SGtalks here simply refuse to read History... Big Grin

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Source: Drawn by the Division of Territory and Boundary, Ministry of the Interior, December 1946 (the 35th year of the Republic of China). Chinese (ROC) Government (Published in 1948).

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(05-07-2024, 11:40 AM)Niubee Wrote:  Legitimate rights

Who does not claim they have legitimate rights when there is dispute? tt is y we need courts to arbitrate.
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(05-07-2024, 11:37 AM)Manthink Wrote:  Err... my last check confirms more countries want to join non-USD BRICS... No one is forcing any country to do become its partner leh... Big Grin 

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/interna...nded-brics

I don't know why you need to parrot me on no one is forced to be USA partner. If you want to post about BRICS, you can just go ahead. There's no need to be lame and use anybody's comment here as your opening paragraph before switching to your desired topic.
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(05-07-2024, 11:36 AM)Manthink Wrote:  LOL!..Pray tell when has China "ignores" the UN agreement and had the UN passed any judgement on  ?

Perhaps it is better that you explain what is "free market friendly" in Americans terms.....which interestingly, US politics and policies is as confused as Biden foggy mind... Big Grin

What is there to explain?  Every country has its own governance and policies. The US has reasons not to ratify UNCLOS. How can we blame the US for not ratifying UNCLOS when there is a dispute among UNCLOS members?



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Yes. Like blaming China and Russia not joining NATO when there is a dispute btw the US and it’s other NATO members.
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US is a better devil

then chow cheese pie (CCP) china devil you dont know
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(05-07-2024, 01:45 PM)teaserteam Wrote:  What is there to explain?  Every country has its own governance and policies.  The US has reasons not to ratify UNCLOS.  How can we blame the US for not ratifying UNCLOS when there is a dispute among UNCLOS members?

I am just conjecting why the US did not ratify UNCLOS and China did. UNCLOS was drafted during the COLD WAR. The US was afraid to lose the remote islands like Hawaii and Guam if they ratified UNCLOS.

Quote:The United States did not ratify UNCLOS because of fears among conservative Republicans that it would undermine U.S. sovereignty by transferring “ownership” of the high seas to the United Nations.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.cfr.org/blog/international-treaties-united-states-refuses-play-ball&ved=2ahUKEwiG4pv4n4-HAxWF1zgGHYMtAwAQFnoECA4QAw&usg=AOvVaw0if4KpbPv3tKzkX0C_Jyi5

As to why China ratified UNCLOS when they also have remote islands, is not known.



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(05-07-2024, 12:43 PM)idiosyncrasy Wrote:  I don't know why you need to parrot me on no one is forced to be USA partner. If you want to post about BRICS, you can just go ahead. There's no need to be lame and use anybody's comment here as your opening paragraph before switching to your desired topic.

LOL! There is a lot of things that you don't know in SGtalk as a newbie.

For instance - no one is "parroting" your post other than pointing out the irony in your statement that countries can hv sovereign choice that serve their best interest..
The context, in case you forget, is USA is now seen a less reliable "partner" in Asia. Big Grin

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(05-07-2024, 01:45 PM)teaserteam Wrote:  What is there to explain?  Every country has its own governance and policies.  The US has reasons not to ratify UNCLOS.  How can we blame the US for not ratifying UNCLOS when there is a dispute among UNCLOS members?

Sure - US is free to  excuse itself from the UN law...

This also menas the Americans is in no legal nor moral position to lecture other nations to a bid by the UN law.

Trouble is it is hard for a psychotic Hypocrite not to tell others to do as it say not as it does.... Big Grin

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(05-07-2024, 01:59 PM)revealer Wrote:  Yes. Like blaming China and Russia not joining NATO when there is a dispute btw the US and it’s  other NATO members.

Errr...since when China had seek to "join" NATO ? Big Grin

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(05-07-2024, 02:26 PM)teaserteam Wrote:  I am just conjecting why the US did not ratify UNCLOS and China did. UNCLOS was drafted during the COLD WAR. The US was afraid to lose the remote islands like Hawaii and Guam if they ratified UNCLOS.


As to why China ratified UNCLOS when they also have remote islands, is not known.

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(05-07-2024, 02:26 PM)teaserteam Wrote:  I am just conjecting why the US did not ratify UNCLOS and China did. UNCLOS was drafted during the COLD WAR. The US was afraid to lose the remote islands like Hawaii and Guam if they ratified UNCLOS.


As to why China ratified UNCLOS when they also have remote islands, is not known.

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