We're open to charging more for car usage to increase vehicle population
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🚘 Transport Minister: We're open to charging more for car usage to increase vehicle population

The Government is open to reviewing the idea of a one-off increase in the total vehicle population spread over a few years, accompanied by higher usage-based charges to prevent congestion, said Transport Minister Chee Hong Tat.

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People should forget about ownership for non practical reasons such as ego or status etc. A car is but liability unless you can make use of it for your sales. To drive a car there's so many unaccounted expenditures such as ERP, parking, potential fines etc.

In this time and era, there is no need to focus on ownership since you technically don't own anything until it's fully paid up and still with useful economic years...
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simi logic?

more cars more congestion and higher ERP rate to take back the CDC vouchers and all the jiken wing?
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(06-03-2024, 03:11 PM)Bigiron Wrote:  Transport Minister: We're open to charging more for car usage to increase vehicle population
The Government is open to reviewing the idea of a one-off increase in the total vehicle population spread over a few years, accompanied by higher usage-based charges to prevent congestion, said Transport Minister Chee Hong Tat.

Apart from weekday peak morning and evening hours, the traffic flow in SG is actually rather smooth on our roads since only 11% of the population own cars. For working adults who drive to the office, our cars are usually parked for up to 8-9 hours there. Common sense will tell the Transport Minister that any person who spends an arm and a leg on buying a car will want to make full use of it. That means car usage will remain high, so the Govt will extract money from motorists for both acquiring and using their vehicles. How wonderful!  
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(06-03-2024, 04:16 PM)EvertonDiehard Wrote:  Apart from weekday peak morning and evening hours, the traffic flow in SG is actually rather smooth on our roads since only 11% of the population own cars. For working adults who drive to the office, our cars are usually parked for up to 8-9 hours there. Common sense will tell the Transport Minister that any person who spends an arm and a leg on buying a car will want to make full use of it. That means car usage will remain high, so the Govt will extract money from motorists for both acquiring and using their vehicles. How wonderful!  

I thought is one third of the household got car. Maybe 11% share with 3 house member become a third.
Given rise in cost in everything, higher fees is already expected.
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Buy a car from Malaysia. I have seen Malaysian cars parked in my office building car parks from Mondays to Fridays.
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(06-03-2024, 04:25 PM)watchfirst9 Wrote:  I thought is one third of the household got car. Maybe 11% share with 3 house member become a third.
Given rise in cost in everything, higher fees is already expected.

The MIW like to harp on the fact that SG has one of the lowest rate of direct taxation among developed countries. However, our politicians haven't admitted that we have perhaps the greatest variety of indirect taxes anywhere in the world. The COE is a real money spinner for Pay And Pay.
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I'm more convinced than ever that this year will be election year.

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Owning a car is really wasting money especially for those who just drive it to work, park in the work place for whole day, then drive home in the evening. Better take public transport for the two trips per day.  Rolleyes

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(06-03-2024, 10:19 PM)Huliwang Wrote:  Owning a car is really wasting money especially for those who just drive it to work, park in the work place for whole day, then drive home in the evening. Better take public transport for the two trips per day.  

I spend an average of 1 hour driving my car on a weekday. Besides driving to and from office to go home, I send my daughter to school daily and pick her on my way back at least twice a week. On weekends, I drive to the wet market, to buy groceries, for meals, outings with my family etc. I also ferry my elderly parents to their medical appts. I cannot put a price on convenience. As long as I am able to continue maintaining my present car, I won't be giving it up any time soon. 
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(06-03-2024, 10:12 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote:  I'm more convinced than ever that this year will be election year.

The way our leaders keep trying to buy our votes, it is certain that the GE is looming. It is also pretty obvious that the Pappies are worried that they will be voted out, so they are handing out the goodies now. 
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Another U turned from him? Thought previously they said won’t be using this method anytime soon? Now saying otherwise?
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to increased car population it is necessary to increase road capacity.

1.cheapest way, more green wave of traffic lights. that will increase throughput of the road and hence capacity.
2.switch off some traffic lights especially those manning circle in off peak time. peak traffic light helps off peak traffic light slow down as circle itself let human made the decisions. light traffic best for human decision.
review many rigth turn red arrow. green arrow helps a lot. red arrow is a mix bag. those at low traffic and single truning lane really not needed. double lane yes as one lane vehicle can block view of the other view. most of time. red arrow just look very silly as no vehicles from opp direction at all fro entire period of red arrow. some red arrow not working. you wait one cycle and no green arrow???
3. speed detection to curb cheonging red light is out dated. it is sticking to father say you better listen type of thing. as people grow people resent hardline control. those with blinking light beforetraffic light helps a lot. it says warn you too late to cheong, slow down. give people respect as grow up people. sensible people will not cheong red light to risk their own life and others not to mentioned the super high fine.

4. building more roads helps but it is more important to solve the critical jam point and redo the accident area.
each junction slow capacity to 25% in each directions. if can build bridge it will restore a lot of capacity to almost 100%. needed especially at critical junction that always jam.
4.1 like bke to pie junction. need to redraw the lanes to stop last min change of lane 1 to lane 2 to turn to pie and last min change of lane 3 to lane 2. this is asking for trouble as two cars changing lane last min results in many accidents there.
4.2 cannot keep linking one express way to without increasing at least an extra lane on the express way that is receiving the traffic for a distance that allow the speed to increase before merging. example kpe to pie. before kpe no jam. with kpe west bound jam. need a more seamless join. east bound need a fly over form cte to joined pie after kpe exit.
4.3 lornie joing pie. merge the lanes coming from reservior side of lornie first before meging with traffic joining bukit timah side. vehicle try to merge immediately after merge to right lane. best to let vehicle move on left most lane to higher speed before merging. if can block left most lane on pie coming from city will help as are few vehicles want to turn into eng neo road, most is just bus, lorry trying to keep left most lane.

think about it. capacity can be increased by looking at how roads are draw to increase capacity. low cost way. before increasing car popuplations. more roads needed but it is the critical jam area that needs attention
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vote them out is the solution
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COE & ERP not enough PAP gov thirsty for more...

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(07-03-2024, 08:43 AM)ODA TETSURO Wrote:  COE & ERP not enough PAP gov thirsty for more...
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(07-03-2024, 08:43 AM)jus4lucky Wrote:  vote them out is the solution
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(07-03-2024, 07:38 AM)sclim Wrote:  to increased car population it is necessary to increase road capacity.

Apart from the morning and evening peak hours, traffic in SG is actually quite smooth flowing with the current ownership curbs. Why is there a need to extract even more money from car owners when we only number a mere 11% of the population? Are our leaders working towards another pay hike for themselves at our expense? 
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Cars with even numbered license plates drive 1,3,5,7

Cars with odd numbered license plates drive 2,4,6

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