[Ali Imran]

Saul got the official letters from Emperor Nero lah!  We study the Bible it's written there so no need to ask lah!

Is that what you're told? Don't ask questions and just believe whatever they tell you to believe.

[cheekopekman]

Is that what you're told? Don't ask questions and just believe whatever they tell you to believe.

Open the Bible and read lah!  It is written there lah!

[pinkpanther]

Open the Bible and read lah!  It is written there lah!

They need to refer to the Bible to know the truth because their book has no info  Which is the authority here?

[Ali Imran]

Open the Bible and read lah!  It is written there lah!

Who wrote it?

[cheekopekman]

Who wrote it?

The author of the Book of Acts was Luke who also wrote the Gospel of Luke lah!

[cheekopekman]

They need to refer to the Bible to know the truth because their book has no info  Which is the authority here?

Unless you open the Bible you won't know the truth lah!  Some people use digital Bible on handphone lah!

[pinkpanther]

Unless you open the Bible you won't know the truth lah!  Some people use digital Bible on handphone lah!

I use the digital Bible lah....easier to read..no need to flip pages..

[pinkpanther]

The author of the Book of Acts was Luke who also wrote the Gospel of Luke lah!

Yes. You are right..for Moslems who are unsure about the Bible...pls follow this verse below

(10:94)So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters

[singaporean1964]

Unless you open the Bible you won't know the truth lah!  Some people use digital Bible on handphone lah!

the bible was altered when something happen to the timelines
see the mandela effect..
https://youtu.be/S1puYVUy2Kk
https://www.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/c...y_changed/

[cheekopekman]

Yes. You are right..for Moslems who are unsure about the Bible...pls follow this verse below

(10:94)So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters

How come you know the Quran so well leh?

[cheekopekman]

the bible was altered when something happen to the timelines
see the mandela effect..
https://youtu.be/S1puYVUy2Kk
https://www.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/c...y_changed/

Yes, agree with you lah!  During edition and re-edition and revision of the original Bible, certain details and information were omitted or deleted lah!

[pinkpanther]

How come you know the Quran so well leh?

Because I wanted to know if the Quran was the truth but how unfortunately ...

[Ali Imran]

Yes, agree with you lah!  During edition and re-edition and revision of the original Bible, certain details and information were omitted or deleted lah!

If they have been altering the Bible, how do you know what you read is the correct one?

[cheekopekman]

If they have been altering the Bible, how do you know what you read is the correct one?

That's a good question lah, Ali!  I have been using the Bible since I became a Christian in Sec Sch lah! And I have a few versions to make cross references lah! King James Version KJV was the original one followed by Revise Standard Version RSV then New International Version NIV, just to name a few lah! I also check and counter check with Bible teachers and lecturers lah! By faith I believe it's correct lah!

[singaporean1964]

Yes, agree with you lah!  During edition and re-edition and revision of the original Bible, certain details and information were omitted or deleted lah!

no
thats not wat i mean
i mean someone went back in time..and ffuck with history
and changes were reflected here in this reality.
something like back to the future...if u went back and kill someone
certain pple here today will 'vanish'...
there were 16changes 
https://youtu.be/TL_8zpDsUls

[pinkpanther]

What we can all agreed is that the Quran does not claim that the Bible was corrupted during Muhammad's time!

Secondly Manuscripts of the Old and New Testaments dating back to several hundred years before the rise of Islam are displayed in well-known museums across the world (including London). Anyone can compare the Bible we have today with these manuscripts and see that it has not been corrupted..... These all confirm the integrity of the text Christians use to this day...

Lastly when someone says that the Bible has been changed, he is unconsciously blaspheming by accusing God on two counts:
a) that God is a liar by not keeping His promise to protect His Word (Psalm 119:89; Matthew 24:35)
b) Secondly, that God is not God since He was unable to preserve His holy Word. It would mean that man is greater than God – which is blasphemous.

[Hope]

Yes. You are right..for Moslems who are unsure about the Bible...pls follow this verse below

(10:94)So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters

What is this verse about? Confirming bibles?😂
It is the story of the pharaoh.Can you confirm if it is the same in bible you are holding now🤪?Please read verse 90 to 94.


We brought the Children of Israel across the sea. Then Pharaoh and his soldiers pursued them unjustly and oppressively. But as Pharaoh was drowning, he cried out, “I believe that there is no god except that in whom the Children of Israel believe, and I am ˹now˺ one of those who submit.”Quran 10:90

He was told,˺ “Now ˹you believe˺? But you always disobeyed and were one of the corruptors.Quran 10:91

Today We will preserve your corpse so that you may become an example for those who come after you. And surely most people are heedless of Our examples!”Quran 10:92


Indeed, We settled the Children of Israel in a blessed land, and granted them good, lawful provisions. They did not differ until knowledge came to them. Surely your Lord will judge between them on the Day of Judgment regarding their differences.Quran 10:93

If you ˹O Prophet˺ are in doubt about ˹these stories˺ that We have revealed to you, then ask those who read the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so do not be one of those who doubt,Quran 10:94


https://youtu.be/tOKkEdMgPq0?si=LLeK0S8u83jE_-Ll

[pinkpanther]

What is this verse about? Confirming bibles?😂
It is the story of the pharaoh.Can you confirm if it is the same in bible you are holding now🤪?Please read verse 90 to 94.


We brought the Children of Israel across the sea. Then Pharaoh and his soldiers pursued them unjustly and oppressively. But as Pharaoh was drowning, he cried out, “I believe that there is no god except that in whom the Children of Israel believe, and I am ˹now˺ one of those who submit.”Quran 10:90

He was told,˺ “Now ˹you believe˺? But you always disobeyed and were one of the corruptors.Quran 10:91

Today We will preserve your corpse so that you may become an example for those who come after you. And surely most people are heedless of Our examples!”Quran 10:92


Indeed, We settled the Children of Israel in a blessed land, and granted them good, lawful provisions. They did not differ until knowledge came to them. Surely your Lord will judge between them on the Day of Judgment regarding their differences.Quran 10:93

If you ˹O Prophet˺ are in doubt about ˹these stories˺ that We have revealed to you, then ask those who read the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so do not be one of those who doubt,Quran 10:94


https://youtu.be/tOKkEdMgPq0?si=LLeK0S8u83jE_-Ll

you are told to ask them about the story of Musa and Pharaoh. 
Let's go to the Tafsir ...

In the third verse (94), the address is obviously to the Holy Prophet ﷺ . But, it goes without saying that there is no probability of his doubting the revelation. Therefore, the purpose is to beam the message to the Muslim community through this address where he is not the intended recipient. Then, it is also possible that this address may be to human beings at large asking them if they had any doubts about the Divine revelation sent to them through Sayyidna Muhammad al-Mustafa ﷺ . If they had, let them ask those who recited the Torah and Injil before them. They would tell them that all past prophets and their Books have been announcing the glad tidings of the Last among Prophets. This will remove their scruples and suspicions.

According to Tafsir Mazhari, this verse tells us that anyone in doubt about some religious matter is duty-bound to have his doubts removed by asking genuine ` Ulama' (religious scholars whose learning, honesty and adherence to Qur'an, and Sunnah is well recognized, popularly referred to as ` Ulama' al-Haqq). To continue nursing such doubts is not a good thing to do.

https://quran.com/10:94/tafsirs/en-tafsi...f-ul-quran

[pinkpanther]

Hope ..my dear friend...I know you memorise the Quran by heart but you must remember to know the real meanings of those verses....I am not writing to scoff or belittle you...take it that I am taking your religion seriously...

[Ali Imran]

That's a good question lah, Ali!  I have been using the Bible since I became a Christian in Sec Sch lah! And I have a few versions to make cross references lah! King James Version KJV was the original one followed by Revise Standard Version RSV then New International Version NIV, just to name a few lah! I also check and counter check with Bible teachers and lecturers lah! By faith I believe it's correct lah!

A good question indeed, which no Christians can answer. How to say which version of the Bible is the most correct one? No one can say.

The KJV differs greatly from the RSV. Some verses found in KJV are not found in the RSV or NIV. How come they can suka2 take out and put in verses in the Bible and then claim it is the word of God?

[Hope]

you are told to ask them about the story of Musa and Pharaoh. 
Let's go to the Tafsir ...

In the third verse (94), the address is obviously to the Holy Prophet ﷺ . But, it goes without saying that there is no probability of his doubting the revelation. Therefore, the purpose is to beam the message to the Muslim community through this address where he is not the intended recipient. Then, it is also possible that this address may be to human beings at large asking them if they had any doubts about the Divine revelation sent to them through Sayyidna Muhammad al-Mustafa ﷺ . If they had, let them ask those who recited the Torah and Injil before them. They would tell them that all past prophets and their Books have been announcing the glad tidings of the Last among Prophets. This will remove their scruples and suspicions.

According to Tafsir Mazhari, this verse tells us that anyone in doubt about some religious matter is duty-bound to have his doubts removed by asking genuine ` Ulama' (religious scholars whose learning, honesty and adherence to Qur'an, and Sunnah is well recognized, popularly referred to as ` Ulama' al-Haqq). To continue nursing such doubts is not a good thing to do.

Do you have the original Torah and Injeel?In which languages? Oral form? Manuscript?

Read the verse 10:92. Please show me from you old and New Testament, if you don’t have Original Torah and Injeel.
Don’t tell Quran has added this. I have given a YouTube video as a support to Quran claim.

[pinkpanther]

Do you have the original Torah and Injeel?In which languages? Oral form? Manuscript?

Read the verse 10:92. Please show me from you old and New Testament, if you don’t have Original Torah and Injeel.
Don’t tell Quran has added this. I have given a YouTube video as a support to Quran claim.

The Quran and Muhammad affirms that the Torah and the Gospel during his time were good...

[Hope]

Hope ..my dear friend...I know you memorise the Quran by heart but you must remember to know the real meanings of those verses....I am not writing to scoff or belittle you...take it that I am taking your religion seriously...

If I don’t know the meaning I will not write.
Do You understand your bible which is in English?
If we ask Questions from Christian in 203 countries, They would give more than 203 versions of answers.
If you ask Muslims,They would give the same answers from 203 countries.


And We have certainly made the Quran easy to remember. So is there anyone who will be mindful?Quran 50:40

[pinkpanther]

Do you have the original Torah and Injeel?In which languages? Oral form? Manuscript?

Read the verse 10:92. Please show me from you old and New Testament, if you don’t have Original Torah and Injeel.
Don’t tell Quran has added this. I have given a YouTube video as a support to Quran claim.

Many Muslims today say the Bible is corrupted.  But there is nothing in the Quran that supports this.  There is not one word in the Quran that teaches that the Scriptures of the Jews and Christians have been perverted by man.  Instead, the opposite is true.  The Quran supports the Bible.

[pinkpanther]

If I don’t know the meaning I will not write.
Do You understand your bible which is in English?
If we ask Questions from Christian in 203 countries, They would give more than 203 versions of answers.
If you ask Muslims,They would give the same answers from 203 countries.


And We have certainly made the Quran easy to remember. So is there anyone who will be mindful?Quran 50:40

That is why you need to go back to scholars, pastors to check the real meanings and interpretations....

That is why I go to your Tafsir to show you

[pinkpanther]

There were many verses in the Quran to show that the Gospel was true.

Ali - 5:46 - 48

46. And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary confirming the law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light and confirmation of the law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah.

47. Let the people of the Gospel Judge by what Allah has revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah has revealed they are (no better than) those who rebel.

48. To thee We sent the Scripture in truth confirming the scripture that came before it and guarding it in safety....

Dawood - 5:46 - 48

46.  After them we sent forth Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming the Torah already revealed, and gave him the Gospel, in which there is guidance and light, corroborating what was revealed before it in the Torah, a guide and an admonition to the righteous.  Therefore let those who follow the Gospel judge according to what God has revealed therein.  Evil doers are those who do not judge according to God's revelations.  And to you we have revealed the Book with the truth.  It confirms the Scriptures which came before it and stands as a guardian over them.


Ali - 5:66

If only they had stood fast by the Law the Gospel and all the revelation that was sent to them from their Lord they would have enjoyed happiness from every side.  There is from among them a party on the right course; but many of them follow a course that is evil.



Dawood - 5:66

If they observe the Torah and the Gospel and what is revealed to them from their Lord, they shall enjoy abundance from above and from beneath.

[Hope]

Many Muslims today say the Bible is corrupted.  But there is nothing in the Quran that supports this.  There is not one word in the Quran that teaches that the Scriptures of the Jews and Christians have been perverted by man.  Instead, the opposite is true.  The Quran supports the Bible.

There are so many verses in Quran. Please find few verses below.Arabic Quran doesn’t ref Torah and Injeel as bibles, Old Testament or New Testament.
What is your point here by saying Quran supports the bible?


Do you ˹believers still˺ expect them to be true to you, though a group of them would hear the word of Allah then knowingly corrupt it after understanding it?Quran 2:75

Some Jews take words out of context and say, “We listen and we disobey,” “Hear! May you never hear,” and “Râ’ina!” [Herd us!]—playing with words and discrediting the faith. Had they said ˹courteously˺, “We hear and obey,” “Listen to us,” and “Unẓurna,” [Tend to us!] it would have been better for them and more proper. Allah has condemned them for their disbelief, so they do not believe except for a few.Quran 4:46

But for breaking their covenant We condemned them and hardened their hearts. They distorted the words of the Scripture and neglected a portion of what they had been commanded to uphold. You ˹O Prophet˺ will always find deceit on their part, except for a few. But pardon them and bear with them. Indeed, Allah loves the good-doers.Quran 5:13

[Hope]

That is why you need to go back to scholars, pastors to check the real meanings and interpretations....

That is why I go to your Tafsir to show you

Are you a pastor , scholar?

[Hope]

There were many verses in the Quran to show that the Gospel was true.

Ali - 5:46 - 48

46. And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary confirming the law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light and confirmation of the law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah.

47. Let the people of the Gospel Judge by what Allah has revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah has revealed they are (no better than) those who rebel.

48. To thee We sent the Scripture in truth confirming the scripture that came before it and guarding it in safety....

Dawood - 5:46 - 48

46.  After them we sent forth Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming the Torah already revealed, and gave him the Gospel, in which there is guidance and light, corroborating what was revealed before it in the Torah, a guide and an admonition to the righteous.  Therefore let those who follow the Gospel judge according to what God has revealed therein.  Evil doers are those who do not judge according to God's revelations.  And to you we have revealed the Book with the truth.  It confirms the Scriptures which came before it and stands as a guardian over them.


Ali - 5:66

If only they had stood fast by the Law the Gospel and all the revelation that was sent to them from their Lord they would have enjoyed happiness from every side.  There is from among them a party on the right course; but many of them follow a course that is evil.



Dawood - 5:66

If they observe the Torah and the Gospel and what is revealed to them from their Lord, they shall enjoy abundance from above and from beneath.

Muslim believe Torah and Injeel were true.
Please show us the original.

[Hope]

Things are changing rapidly. Second coming of Jesus ,son of Mary is very near.

As per Islamic narrations, Jesus will descend to this mosque in Damascus.When this was prophesied, there was no
Mosque or Muslim in Syria 1400 years ago.

https://youtu.be/CiMUPP9zIvU?si=f3WofCZcek7V1Ld3