why PAP only refer Pritnam and Faisal to police without Ms Khan?
#1

Ms Khan said Pritnam is not telling the truth.

Pritnam said Ms Khan is not telling the truth.

Both of them accused of each other.

To find the truth, how can Police find the truth without investigating Ms Khan ?

Assuming Ms Khan is lying, how can police find the truth by investigating Pritnam and Faisal only ?

The police must investigate Ms Khan, Pritnam and Faisal to find the truth.

How can police believe PAP that Pritnam and Faisal are guilty and investigate Pritnam and Faisal only ?

This is ridiculous !
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The whole show is like circus and is ridiculous.
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(15-02-2022, 10:43 PM)forum456 Wrote:  Ms Khan said Pritnam is not telling the truth.

Pritnam said Ms Khan is not telling the truth.

Both of them accused of each other.

To find the truth, how can Police find the truth without investigating Ms Khan ?

Assuming Ms Khan is lying, how can police find the truth by investigating Pritnam and Faisal only ?

The police must investigate Ms Khan, Pritnam and Faisal to find the truth.

How can police believe PAP that Pritnam and Faisal are guilty and investigate Pritnam and Faisal only ?

This is ridiculous !

if a man is killed, A said B killed him amd B said A killed him.

A political committee conducted inquiry and recommend police to investigate A only.
B is fined by the commitee.

How can this be fair  to A ?
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#4

if PAP only wants to know if Pritnam and Faisal are lying, then PAP will ask police to investigate Pritnam and Faisal only.

if police cannot find evidence of them lying, Pritnam and Faisal will clear their names.

then who is the real liar ? police will never know because police does not investigate Ms Khan.

to know the real truth, police must investigate 3 of them
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#5

(15-02-2022, 11:26 PM)cityhantam Wrote:  You want WP to get into more shit?  Thinking

Since they are already in, why not pull her father in to enjoy the shit?
For a start how much her father donated?
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#6

Did her father lie?

https://tnp.straitstimes.com/news/singap...fter-gaffe
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#7

(15-02-2022, 11:38 PM)Dan Wrote:  Since they are already in, why not pull her father in to enjoy the shit?
For a start how much her father donated?

Don't anyhow pull without evidence hor. 

You will get yourself and this forum into trouble!
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(16-02-2022, 12:07 AM)cityhantam Wrote:  Don't anyhow pull without evidence hor. 

You will get yourself and this forum into trouble!

Why? You got no balls or the Forum got no balls when it hasn't started?
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(16-02-2022, 12:10 AM)Dan Wrote:  Why? You got no balls or the Forum got no balls when it hasn't started?

I don't anyhow hantam without evidence. 

This forum doesn't belong to you. So pls respect the owner.
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(16-02-2022, 12:12 AM)cityhantam Wrote:  I don't anyhow hantam without evidence. 

This forum doesn't belong to you. So pls respect the owner.

There are tons of allegations and accusations against Ministers, MPs and civil servants including foreign dignitaries and I haven't heard a word of caution from the owner or owners.
No, this forum does not belong to me it belongs to you. I am sorry I scared the hell out of you.
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(15-02-2022, 10:43 PM)forum456 Wrote:  Ms Khan said Pritnam is not telling the truth.

Pritnam said Ms Khan is not telling the truth.

Both of them accused of each other.

To find the truth, how can Police find the truth without investigating Ms Khan ?

Assuming Ms Khan is lying, how can police find the truth by investigating Pritnam and Faisal only ?

The police must investigate Ms Khan, Pritnam and Faisal to find the truth.

How can police believe PAP that Pritnam and Faisal are guilty and investigate Pritnam and Faisal only ?

This is ridiculous !

I never bother to read much in fact ever since so call RK lie than WP go into trouble so call allow her to lie whatever.
I just know why partly so call " she admit lying so case close " Whereas Pritnam and Faisal don't admit they are so call " at fault in the first place knowing so call RK lie yet so call let she continue speak in parliament " Thus this is why
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(16-02-2022, 01:20 AM)[[ForeverAlone]] Wrote:  I never bother to read much in fact ever since so call RK lie than WP go into trouble so call allow her to lie whatever.
I just know why partly so call " she admit lying so case close " Whereas Pritnam and Faisal don't admit they are so call " at fault in the first place knowing so call RK lie yet so call let she continue speak in parliament " Thus this is why

there are 2 lies in parliament.
the 1st lie is RK lied about the police.
the 2nd lie is pritnam telling RK to continue the lie.

for the 2nd lie, who is telling the truth ? RK or Pritnam ?

how can PAP refer Pritnam to police without RK ?
is PAP confirming that RK continued to lie because Pritnam asked her to continue the lie ?
the police need to investigate both of them to find out if Pritnam asked her to continue the lie
without RK,police will never find the truth
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#13

This can be understood as follows

1. They believe RK to be credible

2. They believe PS and Faisal to have committed perjury and contempt respectively.

3. They are referring the 2 for potential criminal charges

4. RK will still be called as witness

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#14

Dont try to b clever lah...leave matter to the professionals trained to know with 90% certainty dat he she is lying ...nowadays, got so nany psychometric tests n other scientific around n many r v chun one...

Pls dont speculate or rumour mongering ..this is v irresponsible as it's v damaging, sabotaging our country ..
.u know lah, the bludy v biased angmo extremist press will only pick the dirt n report all the dirt , churned it n tell the entire world how bad our country is..

n certainly not a gentlemen ...true gentlemen will go to hong lim to demonstrate with proofs , evidence etc..
Or no lampar, then go to kangaroo court or lundun or hilly billy etc to speak yr mind, no need proof
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(16-02-2022, 08:17 AM)sgbuffett Wrote:  This can be understood as follows

1. They believe RK to be credible

2. They believe PS and Faisal to have committed perjury and contempt respectively.

3. They are referring the 2 for potential criminal charges

4. RK will still be called as witness

PAP politicians are in no position to tell police who is credible or not credible or who to be witness.
police must investigate 3 of them to find the truth.

if not, any politician can decide for police who to be investigated
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#16

OK I tell you why Pritam and Manab are to be hauled to court and not the Khan. It is so simple and the reason is Khan already admitted she lied and quantum of $35K punishment meted out by COP. already Whereas Pritam and Manab still maintained innocence which differs from the COP's opinion, thus they will be dragged to the court for further interrogation by Public Prosecutor and judge by a neutral Judge so that oppie supporters cannot say unfair..... Big Grin

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(16-02-2022, 09:36 AM)Huliwang Wrote:  OK I tell you why Pritam and Manab are to be hauled to court and not the Khan. It is so simple and the reason is Khan already admitted she lied and quantum of $35K punishment meted out by COP. already Whereas Pritam and Manab still maintained innocence which differs from the COP's opinion, thus they will be dragged to the court for further interrogation by Public Prosecutor and judge by a neutral Judge so that oppie supporters cannot say unfair..... Big Grin

there are 2 lies in parliament.
the 1st lie is RK lied about the police.
the 2nd lie is pritnam telling RK to continue the lie.

RK admitted for the 1st lie.

how about the 2nd lie that Pritnam asked her to continue the lie ?

RK or Pritnam is lying about the 2nd lie ?
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(16-02-2022, 09:44 AM)forum456 Wrote:  there are 2 lies in parliament.
the 1st lie is RK lied about the police.
the 2nd lie is pritnam telling RK to continue the lie.

RK admitted for the 1st lie.

how about the 2nd lie that Pritnam asked her to continue the lie ?

RK or Pritnam is lying about the 2nd lie ?
 
In the eyes of the law, RK is the one who accused PS of telling her to take the narrative to her grave and there will be no judgement but PS denied. COP after several days of thorough interrogation and fact finding opined that they are satisfied that PS lied under Oath. Since PS refused to admit that he lied while in front of the COP and while under Oath, the COP will drag PS to court as the accused criminal and RK to become the *star* prosecution witness. Nothing seems abnormal .......... Big Grin

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#19

(15-02-2022, 10:45 PM)Instinct Wrote:  The whole show is like circus and is ridiculous.



Not wonder the covid situation and hospitals are getting out of hand. They rather spend thousands and thousands of man hours in this debacle.


If so free, go and help out in the hospitals lah. The covid task force has run out of ideas.


Huh

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(16-02-2022, 10:00 AM)Huliwang Wrote:   
In the eyes of the law, RK is the one who accused PS of telling her to take the narrative to her grave and there will be no judgement but PS denied. COP after several days of thorough interrogation and fact finding opined that they are satisfied that PS lied under Oath. Since PS refused to admit that he lied while in front of the COP and while under Oath, the COP will drag PS to court as the accused criminal and RK to become the *star* prosecution witness. Nothing seems abnormal .......... Big Grin

PAP politicians cannot decide for the police on who should be investigated in court.
police has to investigate RK and PS and decide who to be charged in court.

if not, our politicians can tell police who to be charged and who not to be charged.
this is wrong
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(16-02-2022, 10:00 AM)Huliwang Wrote:   
In the eyes of the law, RK is the one who accused PS of telling her to take the narrative to her grave and there will be no judgement but PS denied. COP after several days of thorough interrogation and fact finding opined that they are satisfied that PS lied under Oath. Since PS refused to admit that he lied while in front of the COP and while under Oath, the COP will drag PS to court as the accused criminal and RK to become the *star* prosecution witness. Nothing seems abnormal .......... Big Grin

Who knows whether the statement "take it to the grave" was concocted herself, her parents, husband or the party. COP kept insisting it's the party eventhough they deny. Hence COP just jump to conclusion that PS not telling the truth. If COP is thorough in their investigation, they should have include her family for questioning as well. As such, it seems like the exercise is more like to fix oppo. Hopefully, DPP will investigate more thoroughly and include her family for questioning. Common sense will tell you that she can't be completely isolated from talking to her family about her lie.
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(16-02-2022, 10:10 AM)forum456 Wrote:  PAP politicians cannot decide for the police on who should be investigated in court.
police has to investigate RK and PS and decide who to be charged in court.

if not, our politicians can tell police who to be charged and who not to be charged.
this is wrong

Those people sitting in the COP have changed their hats from politicians to high level investigators. This is an accepted practice .... Big Grin

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(16-02-2022, 10:19 AM)Huliwang Wrote:  Those people sitting in the COP have changed their hats from politicians to high level investigators. This is an accepted practice .... Big Grin

if this is true, PAP should lose another GRC in next election because PAP has become the "police"
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(16-02-2022, 10:26 AM)forum456 Wrote:  if this is true, PAP should lose another GRC in next election because PAP has become the "police"

Of course this is true. This type of formal internal investigation has been going in the Civil Service, Armed forces, etc. since the beginning of time. They come under various names like BOI (Board of Inquiry), Commission of Investigation, etc. For Parliament they called it COP..... Big Grin

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(16-02-2022, 10:19 AM)Huliwang Wrote:  Those people sitting in the COP have changed their hats from politicians to high level investigators. This is an accepted practice .... Big Grin
Change hat can change mind??? What's wrong when they get police to investigate police brutality in msia???
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(15-02-2022, 10:45 PM)Instinct Wrote:  The whole show is like circus and is ridiculous.

CECA Culture in Parliament.

They always go round the Bollywood Tree to confuse us when they cannot convince us.

Just watch the video can make you laugh.

Parliament is really like SAI and Tham- Pui.

Sack half the Mayors & PAP Ministers
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(16-02-2022, 10:02 AM)klat Wrote:  Not wonder the covid situation and hospitals are getting out of hand. They rather spend thousands and thousands of man hours in this debacle.


If so free, go and help out in the hospitals lah. The covid task force has run out of ideas.


Huh
Could they be using this issue to side track the covid case-- changing attention eg free rider issue suddenly came out with LML case to side track
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(16-02-2022, 10:44 AM)kc172021 Wrote:  Could they be using this issue to side track the covid case-- changing attention eg free rider issue suddenly came out with LML case to side track
No lah, in their eyes this is a big fish caught in their net which far outweighs the importance of Covid. It is a once in a lifetime opportunity to demolish an opposing party provided by R Khan....... Big Grin

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#29

(16-02-2022, 10:49 AM)Huliwang Wrote:  No lah, in their eyes this is a big fish caught in their net which far outweighs the importance of Covid. It is a once in a lifetime opportunity to demolish an opposing party provided by R Khan....... Big Grin

if cop cannot find any evidence on PS, police will not find any evidence because the comms between RK and PS are in
their talk.
No one can verify.
Once there is not enough evidence to charge PS, PAP will be punished by voters.
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(16-02-2022, 10:42 AM)Instinct Wrote:  Change hat can change mind??? What's wrong when they get police to investigate police brutality in msia???

Seems like the parliament set up the COP with just the MPs which they think are capable of the investigation. They can called in a few CID police investigators to be in the COP if needed but it appears that they dun need them...... Big Grin

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