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Hanoi metro completed and fully operational!

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(06-11-2021, 02:07 PM)mikeloh Wrote: [ -> ]Hanoi metro completed and fully operational!

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After 10 years of construction......

(06-11-2021, 04:08 PM)debono Wrote: [ -> ]After 10 years of construction......

Japanese company started building HCMC MRT in 2012, it was supposed to complete in 2017, got delayed, Vietnam’s PM got worried and visited the site, then they promise to get it done in 2020, failed, then said will delay to end 2021, the news says due to Covid it will only be completed in 2024. The new MRT line in both cities are about the same length and stations, why ‘lousy’ Chinese engineers can get it done within 9 years but the smart Japanese engineers have taken so long never finish? 

so the Japanese are not as efficient as hardworking as Chinese, next time other countries will think twice before awarding MRT or HSR projects to Japanese companies.

(06-11-2021, 09:26 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote: [ -> ]Japanese company started building HCMC MRT in 2012, it was supposed to complete in 2017, got delayed, Vietnam’s PM got worried and visited the site, then they promise to get it done in 2020, failed, then said will delay to end 2021, the news says due to Covid it will only be completed in 2024. The new MRT line in both cities are about the same length and stations, why ‘lousy’ Chinese engineers can get it done within 9 years but the smart Japanese engineers have taken so long never finish? 

This shows that the Chinese engineers are more hard working as compared to the Japanese engineers..

(06-11-2021, 09:26 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote: [ -> ]Japanese company started building HCMC MRT in 2012, it was supposed to complete in 2017, got delayed, Vietnam’s PM got worried and visited the site, then they promise to get it done in 2020, failed, then said will delay to end 2021, the news says due to Covid it will only be completed in 2024. The new MRT line in both cities are about the same length and stations, why ‘lousy’ Chinese engineers can get it done within 9 years but the smart Japanese engineers have taken so long never finish? 

The Hanoi subway line was completed in 2019, but the Vietnamese/Hanoi gov played punk over its acceptance and delayed project payment.
This line is only US$800mln+ which is just 1/3 of the Ho Chi Minh line. So perhaps the Japanese will also face similar delays as the Vietnamese haggles over the project payment by carrying many rounds of "acceptance" tests.



But Laos will be opening SE Asia first "HSR" line end of this year, so not to loose face, Hanoi now wants to have their subway line operational before the Laos.

https://tinyurl.com/HanoiTestRun

Actually the difference is in the workers. Chinese companies bring in many of their own workers. Jap companies try to promote local economy and employ locals. There is a price to pay for trying to do good things.

(07-11-2021, 12:54 PM)starbugs Wrote: [ -> ]Actually the difference is in the workers. Chinese companies bring in many of their own workers. Jap companies try to promote local economy and employ locals. There is a price to pay for trying to do good things.

Your statement is probably true 10-20 years ago, but salary in China is quite high nowadays. Even factory workers can get S$1.5K+ a month.
For present projects in developing countries (e.g Bangladesh Padma bridge or the ECRL in Malaysia), only supervisory and specialised skill roles are Chinese.
Most of the workers are locals.

E.g. in this ECRL video, even the machinery are non-Chinese.


Old video on the Bangladesh Padma Bridge that will soon be completed. See if you can count the number of Chinese vs Bangladeshi workers within.


Final track laying and bitumen laying on the bridge (shot last week). Not a single Chinese worker in sight.