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"The F-16 Is Being Replaced by China's J-10C Fighter in 1 Air Force" : will Singapore,?

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/f...ir%20Force

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Singapore RSAF has 60 fighter jets F-16 much much older than the Egyptians 

Maybe it's time to consider replacing them with Chinese J-10C fighter jets..

Pay in BRICS currency, Why not?

(10-09-2024, 02:18 AM)Scythian Wrote: [ -> ].
Singapore RSAF has 60 fighter jets F-16 much much older than the Egyptians 

Maybe it's time to consider replacing them with Chinese J-10C fighter jets..

Pay in BRICS currency, Why not?

After Aussie replace their F18 with J-10C first..🤣
And join BRICS too..🤭

Singapore should buy some. Existing fighter plane, without US approval, cannot fly or attack our enemies. They become white elephants

(10-09-2024, 07:24 AM)Clyde Wrote: [ -> ]Singapore should buy some. Existing fighter plane, without US approval, cannot fly or attack our enemies. They become white elephants

Singapore 60 old fighter jets no taker

Maybe sell to scrap iron dealers.

Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) can also consider.😂

Usa has been giving the region lower tech jets than Israel. Purposely let Israel terrorize the region with free wills. See the Gaza genocide...

(10-09-2024, 11:43 AM)Niubee Wrote: [ -> ]Usa has been giving the region lower tech jets than Israel. Purposely let Israel terrorize the region with free wills. See the Gaza genocide...

Houthis has shot down 8 x MQ-9 drones using missiles, $30 million per drone, that means the US had lost $250 million already.

(10-09-2024, 11:37 AM)lvlrsSTI Wrote: [ -> ]Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) can also consider.😂

SCY prepared a proposal presentation to Aussie government...👍

(10-09-2024, 11:45 AM)moonrab Wrote: [ -> ]SCY prepared a proposal presentation to Aussie government...👍

PAP will endorsed his proposal

(10-09-2024, 07:24 AM)Clyde Wrote: [ -> ]Singapore should buy some. Existing fighter plane, without US approval, cannot fly or attack our enemies. They become white elephants

Why not ? SAF also bought Russians SAMs.

https://aviationweek.com/singapore-buys-...-igla-sams

(10-09-2024, 11:45 AM)moonrab Wrote: [ -> ]SCY prepared a proposal presentation to Aussie government...👍

LOL! 

You need to know Scythian  pay tax to a gov that is also a poodle of its master in Washington DC ..

F16 can still down russian latest MIG

(10-09-2024, 11:55 AM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]F16 can still  down russian latest MIG

F16 crashed last week killing a top Ukrainian pilot.

(10-09-2024, 12:03 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote: [ -> ]F16 crashed last week killing a top Ukrainian pilot.

all Ukranian pilot are top pilot

they are given 1 year training and they never pilot F16 before cause they used russian MIG (Ukraine army are former russain army  )

Ukranian pilot love F16 low altitude high speed and high angular velocity which can dodge MIG AA missile easily

they are crazy pilot

F16 are good for defense strategy

(10-09-2024, 02:18 AM)Scythian Wrote: [ -> ]Singapore RSAF has 60 fighter jets F-16 much much older than the Egyptians 
Maybe it's time to consider replacing them with Chinese J-10C fighter jets..
Pay in BRICS currency, Why not?

F16 is a 40 years old airframe and nearing retirement by 2030.
This is why Ukraine is finally getting their F-16 while SG is retiring them. 

Bang for Buck is a no brainer to pay in RMB than is USD for a product that is less expensive, technically more advanced and does not crash because of age (an RSAF F-16 was lost this ear due to multiple failed gyroscopes.


Like the Falcon, J-10 is a single engine light-weight FBW fighter. Unlike the Falcon, J-10 comes with more advanced sensors like IR optical tracker  - hence no need to use radar.

Which ever country you buy from, you will be bound by their geopolitical affiliation and totally subservient to their orders, because without their permission, you will not get a code or passkey to operate the craft. Same goes for missiles, because all these military weapons these days need GPS and satellite navigation to accurately pinpoint targets.

This is why you're bound by the passkey and GPS and you will be unable to attack targets belonging to allied interests and actors of the country of manufacture of the equipment you're using.

For example, Singapore will be unable to attack Philippines or Japan and vice versa, because all using US equipment and are US allies.

India will be unable to attack China and vice versa using Russian aircraft and guided missiles.

Egypt will be unable to attack Iran and vice versa using Chinese aircraft and guided missiles.

So you choose lor: Western products or Chinese products or Russian products.

(10-09-2024, 12:13 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]all Ukranian pilot are top pilot...they are crazy pilot...

F16 are good for defense strategy

 
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/ukrai...ource-says

(10-09-2024, 12:31 PM)Manthink Wrote: [ -> ] 
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/ukrai...ource-says

the new and top secret F16 vector jet engine cause a total black out at low altitude

USA and NATO trainer have repeatedly warned those crazy F16 pilot

the G force is HELL!

the suit to counter the G-Force has failed and has many problems


that why F22 has the highest top speed almost mach 4.5 (pentagon top secret)
and F35 can hover

(10-09-2024, 12:30 PM)goodboy Wrote: [ -> ]Which ever country you buy from, you will be subservient to their orders, because without their permission, you will not get a code or passkey to operate the craft. Same goes for missiles, because all these military weapons these days need GPS and satellite navigation to accurately pinpoint targets. This is why you're bound by the passkey and GPS and you will be unable to attack targets belonging to allied interests and actors of the country of manufacture of the equipment you're using.For example, Singapore will be unable to attack Philippines or Japan because all using US equipment and are US allies.India will be unable to attack China using Russian aircraft and guided missiles.
Egypt will be unable to attack Iran using Chinese aircraft and guided missiles.
So you choose lor: Western products or Chinese products or Russian products.

Egypt is a newest member of BRICS having join in on 2 Jan 2024.  Pakistan has also applied for membership.

Both are Muslim majority countries who were once  US "allies" and so both air forces also have large no. of F-16.

Me thinks the Chinese have to thank Israel, which also fly the F-16, for its act of Gaza Genocide.

Naturally, Pakistan and Egypt both independently conclude where they future strategic interest is....  

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/articl...-downgrade

(10-09-2024, 12:38 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]the new and top secret F16 vector jet engine cause a total black out at low altitude

USA and NATO trainer have repeatedly warned those crazy F16 pilot

the G force is HELL!

the suit to counter the G-Force has failed and has many problems


that why F22 has the highest top speed almost mach 4.5 (pentagon top secret)
and F35 can hover

Due to design problems F22 is end of life.

(10-09-2024, 12:38 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]the new and top secret F16 vector jet engine cause a total black out at low altitude
USA and NATO trainer have repeatedly warned those crazy F16 pilot
the G force is HELL! the suit to counter the G-Force has failed and has many problems
that why F22 has the highest top speed almost mach 4.5 (pentagon top secret)and F35 can hover

I am glad that grotesqueness  finally agree NATO has failed Ukraine, be it with all the wonderful weapons they "donated" to Kiev since Feb 2022.

(10-09-2024, 12:41 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote: [ -> ]Due to design problems F22 is end of life.

yes end of life
guam has many of them there
why guam 
cause guam has less land and the shock wave........

F22 can reach anywhere from guam

(10-09-2024, 12:41 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote: [ -> ]Due to design problems F22 is end of life.

yeah. The  USAF had struggled to  maintain its remaining  186 operational Raptors from peeling anti-radar coating to problematic oxygen system.

What's worst is the F-22 factory was long ago shutdown and tooling retired, there is no new replacement US budget.

What is interesting is both F-22 &  J-10 maiden flights was within 5 months apart Sep 1997 and Mar 1998 respectively.



https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/22-raptor...d=14802706

(10-09-2024, 12:45 PM)Manthink Wrote: [ -> ]I am glad that grotesqueness  finally agree NATO has failed Ukraine, be it with all the wonderful weapons they "donated" to Kiev since Feb 2022.

sweet success won't come if there is no failure

(10-09-2024, 12:57 PM)Manthink Wrote: [ -> ]yeah. The  USAF had struggled to  maintain its remaining  186 operational Raptors from peeling anti-radar coating to problematic oxygen system.

What's worst is the F-22 factory was long ago shutdown and tooling retired, there is no new replacement US budget.

What is interesting is both F-22 &  J-10 maiden flights was within 5 months apart Sep 1997 and Mar 1998 respectively.



https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/22-raptor...d=14802706

according to the pentagn 
only if they constantly engaged above  mach 4 at mid flight

no other "small" plane including russia can engaged   at mach 4

cause there is a problem for small plane at mach 4


bigger bomber plane can reach mach 7 cause they carry their own air tank with them
that limit their constant speed of mach 7 is their tank runs out of air

(10-09-2024, 11:49 AM)Niubee Wrote: [ -> ]PAP will endorsed his proposal 

Good for him and Aussie. Cheers!🤣

(10-09-2024, 11:54 AM)Manthink Wrote: [ -> ]LOL! 

You need to know Scythian  pay tax to a gov that is also a poodle of its master in Washington DC ..

Ok la..
He can be a poodle to China too...🤭

(10-09-2024, 12:30 PM)goodboy Wrote: [ -> ]Which ever country you buy from, you will be bound by their geopolitical affiliation and totally subservient to their orders, because without their permission, you will not get a code or passkey to operate the craft. Same goes for missiles, because all these military weapons these days need GPS and satellite navigation to accurately pinpoint targets.

This is why you're bound by the passkey and GPS and you will be unable to attack targets belonging to allied interests and actors of the country of manufacture of the equipment you're using.

For example, Singapore will be unable to attack Philippines or Japan and vice versa, because all using US equipment and are US allies.

India will be unable to attack China and vice versa using Russian aircraft and guided missiles.

Egypt will be unable to attack Iran and vice versa using Chinese aircraft and guided missiles.

So you choose lor: Western products or Chinese products or Russian products.

SG jet confirm can counter attack any invader because US military assets is here.
That's the strategy for our defence. 

Singapore don't attack anyone without provocation. We are just too small ...

(10-09-2024, 01:34 PM)moonrab Wrote: [ -> ]SG jet confirm can counter attack any invader because US military assets is here.
That's the strategy for our defence. 

Singapore don't attack anyone without provocation. We are just too small ...

correct

our HQ airbase in not in paya lebar 
nor it is in singapore