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(07-12-2024, 01:39 PM)Bigbluedot Wrote: [ -> ]Open qn...why muslem allows 4 wives.

First reason is to avoid adultery which is punishable by death in this world. 
Adultery is a major sin which prevents people going to heaven

(07-12-2024, 03:40 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Tawhid is applied when believing in God .

99.99% Muslim have one wife.Islam is the only religion mentioned how many to marr

 If you allow men to have plural wives, why are muslimahs not allowed to have multiple husbands , why does a woman not have the right to marry more than one man? Is Allah bias towards women?

In the Qur'an (Qur'an 49:13, among other verses), God created humans from male and female, and despite the empirical differences among humans (based on race, gender, etc.), the Qur'an regards them as equals and only ranks humans based on their moral choices and piety.

(07-12-2024, 02:46 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Allah rewards the rich who can afford 4 wives..the poor can only afford one!

In Jesus' parable, the poor man Lazarus who died was carried by angels to Abraham's side in heaven, and the rich man was sent to hell, where he was in torment!

There is no such thing.
Every human is answerable how he spent his life, youth, wealth,Time , organs and etc.
There is no exception for wealthy or powerful.



“We did not create the heavens and the earth and everything in between for sport.”Quran 44:38

“This worldly life is no more than play and amusement, but far better is the ˹eternal˺ Home of the Hereafter for those mindful ˹of Allah˺. Will you not then understand?” Quran 6:32


“Know that this worldly life is no more than play, amusement, luxury, mutual boasting, and competition in wealth and children. This is like rain that causes plants to grow, to the delight of the planters. But later the plants dry up and you see them wither, then they are reduced to chaff. And in the Hereafter there will be either severe punishment or forgiveness and pleasure of Allah, whereas the life of this world is no more than the delusion of enjoyment.”Quran 57:20

“O believers! Indeed, some of your spouses and children are enemies to you,1 so beware of them. But if you pardon, overlook, and forgive ˹their faults˺, then Allah is truly All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”Quran 64:14

“Your wealth and children are only a test, but Allah ˹alone˺ has a great reward.”Quran 64:15

(07-12-2024, 03:49 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ] If you allow men to have plural wives, why are muslimahs not allowed to have multiple husbands , why does a woman not have the right to marry more than one man? Is Allah bias towards women?

Allah is the creator of both male and female.He knows better reasons why he ban woman entering to polyandry.

(07-12-2024, 03:59 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]There is no such thing.
Every human is answerable how he spent his life, youth, wealth,Time , organs and etc.
There is no exception for wealthy or powerful.



“We did not create the heavens and the earth and everything in between for sport.”Quran 44:38

“This worldly life is no more than play and amusement, but far better is the ˹eternal˺ Home of the Hereafter for those mindful ˹of Allah˺. Will you not then understand?” Quran 6:32


“Know that this worldly life is no more than play, amusement, luxury, mutual boasting, and competition in wealth and children. This is like rain that causes plants to grow, to the delight of the planters. But later the plants dry up and you see them wither, then they are reduced to chaff. And in the Hereafter there will be either severe punishment or forgiveness and pleasure of Allah, whereas the life of this world is no more than the delusion of enjoyment.”Quran 57:20

“O believers! Indeed, some of your spouses and children are enemies to you,1 so beware of them. But if you pardon, overlook, and forgive ˹their faults˺, then Allah is truly All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”Quran 64:14

“Your wealth and children are only a test, but Allah ˹alone˺ has a great reward.”Quran 64:15

It is ok to have only 1 wife during your time on earth but you are guaranteed at least 2 wives in Jannah according to your prophet 

According to Abû Huraya (radhia Allahu Anhou), the Prophet () said about the people of Paradise: For each of them there will be two wives among the Huris: the marrow of their legs can be distinguished beyond the bones and muscles: It's magnificent! (Reported by Bukhari and Muslim)

Acording to this hadith EVERY man in Jannah will have MINIMUM 2 wives in Jannah among the hoors

(07-12-2024, 04:02 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Allah is the creator of both male and female.He knows better reasons why he ban woman entering to polyandry.

No. (Qur'an 49:13, among other verses), God created humans from male and female, and despite the empirical differences among humans (based on race, gender, etc.), the Qur'an regards them as equals and only ranks humans based on their moral choices and piety

(07-12-2024, 04:02 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Allah is the creator of both male and female.He knows better reasons why he ban woman entering to polyandry.

But the Quran claims to have all the answers to everything! How come there is no reason for not allowing a woman to have multiple husbands?

(07-12-2024, 04:18 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]But the Quran claims to have all the answers to everything! How come there is no reason for not allowing a woman to have multiple husbands?

At that time, Women was not practicing polyandry in Arabia.If Quran had given the reason,Those people would not have understood.There are few reasons proposed by Scholars.However there would be more reasons when human evolves  more 
Quran banned this practice before the world enact laws.
No need to check Quran, let us check ourselves .
Do we agree if our wives sleep with at least 4 men simultaneously?
How many times can you ejeculate a day ? If you cannot, you can schedule with your 4 wives. However Women can open the leg for many men even if they don’t have desire.

If wife find our p_nis is smaller than other three guys, Then how?

Naturally Men like many women. However women can love only one man.

Who will responsible for the child?

In Islam,If husband dies,Women has to observe seclusion.Will other three men agree?

As per science,Women can carry the print of semen for 3 to 4 months .

When 4 men ejeculate to her All of them get STD because of rojak sperm.

There are more reasons.I didn’t spend my time to study this subject.

(07-12-2024, 04:08 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]It is ok to have only 1 wife during your time on earth but you are guaranteed at least 2 wives in Jannah according to your prophet 

According to Abû Huraya (radhia Allahu Anhou), the Prophet () said about the people of Paradise: For each of them there will be two wives among the Huris: the marrow of their legs can be distinguished beyond the bones and muscles: It's magnificent! (Reported by Bukhari and Muslim)

Acording to this hadith EVERY man in Jannah will have MINIMUM 2 wives in Jannah among the hoors

When their men go to hell. We will have to take those extra women

This one is trying to rescue all from Hell :


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(07-12-2024, 06:15 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]At that time, Women was not practicing polyandry in Arabia.If Quran had given the reason,Those people would not have understood.There are few reasons proposed by Scholars.However there would be more reasons when human evolves  more 
Quran banned this practice before the world enact laws.
No need to check Quran, let us check ourselves .
Do we agree if our wives sleep with at least 4 men simultaneously?
How many times can you ejeculate a day ? If you cannot, you can schedule with your 4 wives. However Women can open the leg for many men even if they don’t have desire.

If wife find our p_nis is smaller than other three guys, Then how?

Naturally Men like many women. However women can love only one man.

Who will responsible for the child?

In Islam,If husband dies,Women has to observe seclusion.Will other three men agree?

As per science,Women can carry the print of semen for 3 to 4 months .

When 4 men ejeculate to her All of them get STD because of rojak sperm.

There are more reasons.I didn’t spend my time to study this subject.

If the man has STD, very likely all his wives will have as well. What reasons you apply to the women you also need to apply to the men...Allah is fair and just isn't it?

Is it haram for the husband to order his 4 wives to perform together for the night or the husband can only sleep with one at a time?

(07-12-2024, 06:39 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]When their men go to hell. We will have to take those extra women

You do not sound so happy taking on extra women?

(07-12-2024, 04:02 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Allah is the creator of both male and female.He knows better reasons why he ban woman entering to polyandry.

Wow, if you argue like that  then very easy for you , everything just say Allah knows better. Don't need to qn. 
All religion leaders adopt this attitude.
No wonder they are war. Between diff sect.

Old ones don't need men.
Ugly ones no fish prawns also can.

(07-12-2024, 07:38 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]If the man has STD, very likely all his wives will have as well. What reasons you apply to the women you also need to apply to the men...Allah is fair and just isn't it?

Is it haram for the husband to order his 4 wives to perform together for the night or the husband can only sleep with one at a time?

You should check with your Doctor friend or by googling.fyi,Women are most likely to contract and spread Std.
Purpose of polygamy is to avoid adultery .

Yes, There should not be group sex .

(07-12-2024, 07:40 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]You do not sound so happy taking on extra women?

Firstly we must work hard to enter heaven.Without entering how to think about women, food, drink,mansions.

(07-12-2024, 07:50 PM)Bigbluedot Wrote: [ -> ]Wow, if you argue like that  then very easy for you , everything just say Allah knows better. Don't need to qn. 
All religion leaders adopt this attitude.
No wonder they are war. Between diff sect.

Allah knows what is your heart/ mind.A leaf will not fall with out his knowledge.He also knows when and where a person dies.He is the one providing sustenance with or without limit.

Allah didn’t give reason why he allowed polygamy not polyandry .If you read the Quran, In most cases, Allah asks people with knowledge to ponder.
In a different post , I mentioned possible reasons.

(08-12-2024, 08:26 AM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]You should check with your Doctor friend or by googling.fyi,Women are most likely to contract and spread Std.
Purpose of polygamy is to avoid adultery .

Yes, There should not be group sex .

But all the wives are legally married so why is group sex forbidden if they are willing?

On earth, group sex is forbidden but in heaven with 72 virgins..group sex is allowed?
Why the double standard? 

Homosexual is a NO...but in heaven, it is ok?

(08-12-2024, 08:40 AM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Allah knows what is your heart/ mind.A leaf will not fall with out his knowledge.He also knows when and where a person dies.He is the one providing sustenance with or without limit.

Allah didn’t give reason why he allowed polygamy not polyandry .If you read the Quran, In most cases, Allah asks people with knowledge to ponder.
In a different post , I mentioned possible reasons.

I can't believe that the women are willing to share their husband..and this prove that Muhammad was a true prophet when he makes certain remarks on the women... like deficiencies in their brains!

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind."


He is right!

(08-12-2024, 09:21 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]But all the wives are legally married so why is group sex forbidden if they are willing?

On earth, group sex is forbidden but in heaven with 72 virgins..group sex is allowed?
Why the double standard? 

Homosexual is a NO...but in heaven, it is ok?

1)Morality 

2)Islam has dress code.Four wives are non maharam to each other.They should maintain minimum dress code which is covering whole body except face, hand,feet .

3)Allah command believers to marry for it’s benefits 
Morally, spiritually, socially, physically . Not to have group sex like Christian

In heaven, There is no lust and sex like in this world.

(08-12-2024, 09:21 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]But all the wives are legally married so why is group sex forbidden if they are willing?

On earth, group sex is forbidden but in heaven with 72 virgins..group sex is allowed?
Why the double standard? 

Homosexual is a NO...but in heaven, it is ok?

In Christianity homosexual ok?Now church also officiating gay and lesbian marriages.

(08-12-2024, 09:26 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]I can't believe that the women are willing to share their husband..and this prove that Muhammad was a true prophet when he makes certain remarks on the women... like deficiencies in their brains!

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind."


He is right!

Please explain why Your father in heaven chose a son I/ o a daughter .

(08-12-2024, 09:39 AM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]1)Morality 

2)Islam has dress code.Four wives are non maharam to each other.They should maintain minimum dress code which is covering whole body except face, hand,feet .

3)Allah command believers to marry for it’s benefits 
Morally, spiritually, socially, physically . Not to have group sex like Christian

In heaven, There is no lust and sex like in this world.

1 Corinthians 7:2 ESV 

But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.

How to group sex with 1 wife?

Are you sure there is no lust and sex in Muslim Jannah?

God's messenger said 'every man who is accepted into heaven by God will marry 72 women, two of them will be uri (female entities of heaven of divine beauty) and 70 inheritance from those who dwell in hell. All of them will have lustful organs and the man will have an eternal penile erection" (Sunan Ibn Majah, 39).

(08-12-2024, 09:48 AM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Please explain why Your father in heaven chose a son I/ o a daughter .

Ephesians 2:15. As God appointed the man and created the man as head of the first creation, so Christ came as a man to be head of the new race, his church

(08-12-2024, 09:42 AM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]In Christianity homosexual ok?Now church also officiating gay and lesbian marriages.

 The churches make it clear homosexuality is a sin, but also make it clear that man cannot judge his fellow man without looking in the mirror and seeing himself.

(08-12-2024, 09:51 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Ephesians 2:15. As God appointed the man and created the man as head of the first creation, so Christ came as a man to be head of the new race, his church

It means your God also understand the deficiency?😂

New race?He was a Jew Isrealite.

(08-12-2024, 09:56 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ] The churches make it clear homosexuality is a sin, but also make it clear that man cannot judge his fellow man without looking in the mirror and seeing himself.

Did father in heaven, Jesus and his disciples agree on this?
There are so many churches. Which
Church has authority to give fatwa?

(08-12-2024, 10:11 AM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]It means your God also understand the deficiency?😂

New race?He was a Jew Isrealite.

Your God also understand because He created Adam first then Eve 

(08-12-2024, 10:13 AM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Did father in heaven, Jesus and his disciples agree on this?
There are so many churches. Which
Church has authority to give fatwa?

Same for Islam...in some islamic countries, homosexual is punishable by death and in some Islamic countries..it is not a crime! Why the double standards? What does Allah says?

(05-12-2024, 09:33 AM)cityhantam Wrote: [ -> ]This one is above ALL gods :


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This CECA did not worship any gods so you are right in a way though it would be more accurate technically to say he was beyond all gods and not above all gods.
Jesus was a man and also God. He was born of a woman but consubstantial of God His father.