04-12-2024, 07:22 PM
04-12-2024, 07:54 PM
The man who defended Christianity lost the argument. He made no sense nor is his logic even remotely reasonable.
04-12-2024, 08:01 PM
Who’s the most powderful
04-12-2024, 08:04 PM
Got power beside money is God in physical world lor
05-12-2024, 09:20 AM
(04-12-2024, 07:22 PM)Bigbluedot Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbbaxUC4eSQ
I watched for less than two minutes. The Christian preacher said he trusted Jesus. He should also say that he must also trust the many unknown men who wrote what Jesus purportedly said.
05-12-2024, 09:33 AM
This one is above ALL gods :
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05-12-2024, 10:08 AM
(05-12-2024, 09:33 AM)cityhantam Wrote: [ -> ]This one is above ALL gods :
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That is true as espoused by Buddha in Digha Nikaya when he described the diffrent realms of existence.

05-12-2024, 10:13 AM
In China century ago. Under qing dynasty. God also supported the peasant rabel chief 洪秀全 like 'supporting' usa Trump. But later withdrawn the support because 洪 bullshit that he was the son of god and brother of jesus. Lol.
05-12-2024, 10:22 AM
Luckily I dont believe in religious God.
I only believe I Ching.
Nature is my God, the Chinese call it 老天爷。
I only believe I Ching.
Nature is my God, the Chinese call it 老天爷。
05-12-2024, 10:24 AM
(05-12-2024, 09:33 AM)cityhantam Wrote: [ -> ]This one is above ALL gods :
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佛教属于异教lah.
05-12-2024, 10:25 AM
(05-12-2024, 10:22 AM)RiseofAsia Wrote: [ -> ]Luckily I dont believe in religious God.
I only believe I Ching.
Nature is my God, the Chinese call it 老天爷。
Hello.
Do you believe the universe has a creator?
05-12-2024, 10:27 AM
(05-12-2024, 10:25 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Hello.
Do you believe the universe has a creator?
I only think the religious Gods are aliens in higher dimension. We cant see them at all.
05-12-2024, 10:29 AM
Muslim god came from the First 4 Books (Torah) in the bible
Buddha was never a religion and never a god until humans made him god
Buddha was never a religion and never a god until humans made him god
05-12-2024, 10:32 AM
(05-12-2024, 10:29 AM)Ola Wrote: [ -> ]Muslim god came from the First 4 Books (Torah) in the bible
Buddha was never a religion and never a god until humans made him god
Current Buddha which We always refer only rank No 3.
He still got 2 big bro above him lah?
05-12-2024, 10:39 AM
(05-12-2024, 10:29 AM)Ola Wrote: [ -> ]Muslim god came from the First 4 Books (Torah) in the bible
Buddha was never a religion and never a god until humans made him god
Jesus Christ was a human being until humans made him god.

05-12-2024, 10:41 AM
(05-12-2024, 10:39 AM)cityhantam Wrote: [ -> ]Jesus Christ was a human being until humans made him god.
Same as Chinese God.
Human create God in Chinese culture.
05-12-2024, 10:58 AM
Look at how the moslem show off his friend who can recite and memorise the Quran in the first few mins of the video....in islam, if you can memorise the whole quran..you are guaranteed a place in heaven..it is that simple 

05-12-2024, 11:08 AM
(05-12-2024, 10:58 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Look at how the moslem show off his friend who can recite and memorise the Quran in the first few mins of the video....in islam, if you can memorise the whole quran..you are guaranteed a place in heaven..it is that simple
I think it is quite easy to memorise if the person is fluent in Arabic because they read the quran by singing like it song. Songs are easy to remember.

05-12-2024, 11:15 AM
(05-12-2024, 11:08 AM)Huliwang Wrote: [ -> ]I think it is quite easy to memorise if the person is fluent in Arabic because they read the quran by singing like it song. Songs are easy to remember.
A parrot can memorise it completely and speak in Arabic without fully understanding a single word.. Does it also have the rights to get to paradise?

05-12-2024, 11:23 AM
During the early days of Islam, the Quran was initially recorded on various available materials, including leaves, animals hides, bones, rocks...do we have the names of the original authors? Nope! These were unknown men as well 

05-12-2024, 11:53 AM
(05-12-2024, 10:29 AM)Ola Wrote: [ -> ]Muslim god came from the First 4 Books (Torah) in the bible
Buddha was never a religion and never a god until humans made him god
The Christians say Amen..the Moslems say Ameen...
They claim that all the prophets were Muslims

They claim that the Quran is the supreme authority over the Torah and the Gospel...
They just lay claims to almost everything

05-12-2024, 05:26 PM
(05-12-2024, 11:08 AM)Huliwang Wrote: [ -> ]I think it is quite easy to memorise if the person is fluent in Arabic because they read the quran by singing like it song. Songs are easy to remember.
Most of the memorizers of the Quran, known as Hafiz, are non-Arabs ergo they don't even speak the language.
There are hundreds of thousands of Quran memorizers living in the world today.
Ask me more if you like.
05-12-2024, 05:47 PM
(05-12-2024, 10:27 AM)RiseofAsia Wrote: [ -> ]I only think the religious Gods are aliens in higher dimension. We cant see them at all.
We are talking about the creator of the universe, not gods.
Do you believe the universe is created ergo there is a creator?
05-12-2024, 06:01 PM
(05-12-2024, 05:47 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]We are talking about the creator of the universe, not gods.
Do you believe the universe is created ergo there is a creator?
I already told you I only believe in I Ching which is the Nature. All your answer can be found in I Ching.
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05-12-2024, 06:07 PM
(05-12-2024, 06:01 PM)RiseofAsia Wrote: [ -> ]I already told you I only believe in I Ching which is the Nature. All your answer can be found in I Ching.
Does it tell us what our real purpose is in this world?
05-12-2024, 08:12 PM
(05-12-2024, 10:58 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Look at how the moslem show off his friend who can recite and memorise the Quran in the first few mins of the video....in islam, if you can memorise the whole quran..you are guaranteed a place in heaven..it is that simpleThere is no such thing.
Who say people can go to heaven by memorising the Quran?
First criteria to enter heaven is believing in oneness of god who created this universe.
05-12-2024, 08:30 PM
(05-12-2024, 08:12 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]There is no such thing.
Who say people can go to heaven by memorising the Quran?
First criteria to enter heaven is believing in oneness of god who created this universe.
Hello Hope...long time no hear. Peace be with you!
Hadith literature emphasizes the importance of memorizing the Quran and the virtues associated with it. Here are a few key points derived from various hadiths regarding the memorization of the Quran:
Status of the Huffaz: The memorizer of the Quran, known as a Hafiz or Hafiza (for females), is given a high status in Islam. It is reported that the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said that those who memorize the Quran will be in the company of noble and righteous angels (Hadith in Sahih Muslim). Where are the angels? In paradise obviously!!
Intercession: The Quran is said to intercede for its memorizer on the Day of Judgment. A hadith mentions that the Quran will be a source of intercession for the one who memorized it (Hadith in Ahmad and Ibn Majah).
Reward for Memorization: There are references in hadith that indicate every letter of the Quran brings a reward. Thus, memorizing the Quran is seen as a means to earn immense rewards from Allah.
Encouragement to Teach and Learn: The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) stated that the best among the believers are those who learn the Quran and teach it (Hadith in Sahih Bukhari).
05-12-2024, 08:32 PM
There could be dozens of God. However there is one creator who created this universe which is still
expanding as per science.
We built the universe with ˹great˺ might, and We are certainly expanding ˹it˺.”51:47
Prophet Muhammad didn’t speak English. He used his Arabic word “ Allah “ to call that creator.
Allah says he doesn’t have any other partners to manage this universe.
“Had there been within the heavens and earth gods besides Allah , they both would have been ruined. So exalted is Allah , Lord of the Throne, above what they describe.”
Quran 21:22
“Yet they have taken besides Him gods who cannot create anything but are themselves created. Nor can they protect or benefit themselves. Nor can they control life, death, or resurrection.”Quran 25:3
“He merges the night into the day and the day into the night, and has subjected the sun and the moon, each orbiting for an appointed term. That is Allah—your Lord! All authority belongs to Him. But those ˹idols˺ you invoke besides Him do not possess even the skin of a date stone.”Quran 35:13
“Indeed, Allah ˹alone˺ keeps the heavens and the earth from falling apart. If they were to fall apart, none but Him could hold them up. He is truly Most Forbearing, All-Forgiving.”Quran 35:41
“Do you not see that Allah has subjected to you whatever is in the earth as well as the ships ˹that˺ sail through the sea by His command? He keeps the sky from falling down on the earth except by His permission. Surely Allah is Ever Gracious and Most Merciful to humanity.”Quran 22:65
expanding as per science.
We built the universe with ˹great˺ might, and We are certainly expanding ˹it˺.”51:47
Prophet Muhammad didn’t speak English. He used his Arabic word “ Allah “ to call that creator.
Allah says he doesn’t have any other partners to manage this universe.
“Had there been within the heavens and earth gods besides Allah , they both would have been ruined. So exalted is Allah , Lord of the Throne, above what they describe.”
Quran 21:22
“Yet they have taken besides Him gods who cannot create anything but are themselves created. Nor can they protect or benefit themselves. Nor can they control life, death, or resurrection.”Quran 25:3
“He merges the night into the day and the day into the night, and has subjected the sun and the moon, each orbiting for an appointed term. That is Allah—your Lord! All authority belongs to Him. But those ˹idols˺ you invoke besides Him do not possess even the skin of a date stone.”Quran 35:13
“Indeed, Allah ˹alone˺ keeps the heavens and the earth from falling apart. If they were to fall apart, none but Him could hold them up. He is truly Most Forbearing, All-Forgiving.”Quran 35:41
“Do you not see that Allah has subjected to you whatever is in the earth as well as the ships ˹that˺ sail through the sea by His command? He keeps the sky from falling down on the earth except by His permission. Surely Allah is Ever Gracious and Most Merciful to humanity.”Quran 22:65
05-12-2024, 08:41 PM
(05-12-2024, 08:32 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]There could be dozens of God. However there is one creator who created this universe which is still
expanding as per science.
We built the universe with ˹great˺ might, and We are certainly expanding ˹it˺.”51:47
Prophet Muhammad didn’t speak English. He used his Arabic word “ Allah “ to call that creator.
Allah says he doesn’t have any other partners to manage this universe.
“Had there been within the heavens and earth gods besides Allah , they both would have been ruined. So exalted is Allah , Lord of the Throne, above what they describe.”
Quran 21:22
“Yet they have taken besides Him gods who cannot create anything but are themselves created. Nor can they protect or benefit themselves. Nor can they control life, death, or resurrection.”Quran 25:3
“He merges the night into the day and the day into the night, and has subjected the sun and the moon, each orbiting for an appointed term. That is Allah—your Lord! All authority belongs to Him. But those ˹idols˺ you invoke besides Him do not possess even the skin of a date stone.”Quran 35:13
“Indeed, Allah ˹alone˺ keeps the heavens and the earth from falling apart. If they were to fall apart, none but Him could hold them up. He is truly Most Forbearing, All-Forgiving.”Quran 35:41
“Do you not see that Allah has subjected to you whatever is in the earth as well as the ships ˹that˺ sail through the sea by His command? He keeps the sky from falling down on the earth except by His permission. Surely Allah is Ever Gracious and Most Merciful to humanity.”Quran 22:65
Is Allah a Father?
Judaism and Christianity address God as the Father...why in the final relevation revealed by Allah did he rejected this name?
Did Muhammad check with the previous scriptures to see if his revelations align with them?
05-12-2024, 08:59 PM
Say what you like.noone understand what you are talking.
Kaki kong kaki song. Anyway you have a place at heaven reserve for you. Can disappear from this earthly globe now.
Kaki kong kaki song. Anyway you have a place at heaven reserve for you. Can disappear from this earthly globe now.