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I don't know how to answer. The question never occur to me until this old lady asked me yesterday.

Unlikely that China fudged its figures as that would mean massive number of deaths like USA and India which cannot be hidden nowadays.

many ppl know the answer but paiseh to face the truth and still contemplating what to do next. so for now the best thing to do is to act blur and hope the problem would go away

Answer here!

In other words, M & F are in no way superior to China's vaccines!

Look at Chile where most of vaccines used are China's vaccines :



And Indonesia :



And Seychelles :



UAE :

They take 1 week to test a whole city to detect and isolate.

We take 1.5yrs to test here test there, plus tracetogether, still cannot control.

You believe the west reporters?
Xinjiang force labour? 
See how sophisticated their agriculture machines, the west no match.
My own ears, heard the Filipino maids talking not to trust china vaccines because so many die.
They got these info from toxic medias. Who elso, but Angmos..
US not to be trusted. Back stabbing country.

already said those gadgets no use one. those gong gong went to queue, trace together became infected together

(25-09-2021, 08:52 AM)cityhantam Wrote: [ -> ]Answer here!

In other words, M & F are in no way superior to China's vaccines!

Look at Chile where most of vaccines used are China's vaccines :



And Indonesia :



And Seychelles :



UAE :

Indonesia, Brazil, Cambodia also. How are these countries doing?

Their authorities dun mess around and the majority of the people are cooperative. Also they are jabbed rate is high

Likely because although less effectiveness but less fluctuations in performance to variants
and less side effects

In the end natural one will win hand down.

(25-09-2021, 09:11 AM)RichDad Wrote: [ -> ]Indonesia, Brazil, Cambodia also. How are these countries doing?

Indonesia's chart already shown.

We take P & M vaccines and infection rates become even higher. Leaders are blind?

Yesterday got Malaysia data that show sinovac no good.

(25-09-2021, 09:00 AM)WhatDoYouThink? Wrote: [ -> ]already said those gadgets no use one. those gong gong went to queue, trace together became infected together

Wait hor, those gong gong are forced to collect the gadgets.. If govt never implement go here and there must scan in either with token or tracetogether app, you think any gong gong will be so free to go queue for it.

They check everyone in the country, they check all incoming goods, food, and people. They manufacture vaccines.
Those traveled there need frequent tests to reduce the odds to very minimal.

Now most has taken 2 shots.
Aslo inactivate vaccines can still protect mutated . At least still work .
food is cheap, can get nutrients easily.

(25-09-2021, 10:21 AM)dynamite Wrote: [ -> ]Yesterday got Malaysia data that show sinovac no good.

According to Dr Lee Boon Chai the ex deputy Health minister, the report is a very misleading study led and or written by Dr Kalaiarasu Peariasamy. Because:

1. Lee said more Sinovac vaxxers included into the vaccinated/death data as vaxxers are only included into data a few weeks after being vaccinated. Since at initial program roll-out most of the vaccinated were vaccinated with Sinovac, therefore Sinovac vaxxers make up an even bigger percentage in the data than the 49% ratio it stands for.

2. 49% were vaccinated with Sinovac which means larger sample on Sinovac vaxxers.

3. Much higher percentage of Sinovac vaxxers are elderly people with underlying condition which increases fatality rate. Whereas, most Pfizer and Az vaxxers are younger people. Fatality rate upon infection of the senior, compared to the young, is normally more than 10 times higher.

Sinovac is less efficacious in terms of preventing infection. And it's likely to be less effective in preventing death upon infection. But The West, members and supporters or QUAD, AUKUS and Sinophobes can paint whatever negative picture about China including running down Chinese-made Sinovac and published a report on NST by firstly using a very misleading headline to imply that Sinovac is not effective (then towards the end of the report, it sort of indicates that although Sinovac can prevent death but is more than 5 times less effective than Pfizer and 10 times less effective than AZ are. But most people would just see the misleading headline and wouldn't read the whole article, and many who did couldn't fully comprehend the contents. All they think is Sinovac is NOT effective).

The possibility of the study being biased of Sinophobic agenda cannot be discounted. After all the study was led by Dr Kalaiarasu Peariasamy and or Malay-based NST. Few Indians and Malays in this country are not anti China. Extremely few. If you read what most of them post in FB, you will know being Sinophobic is their standard disposition. Not that I am suggesting they have no reason to be Sinophobic. All I mean is that being Sinophobic makes them prejudiced.

They can say and think what they like about Sinovac and China. The facts are-

To date, China has only 900+k infections and 4636 deaths. All Chinese vaccinated with Sinovac, Sinopharm and other Chinese- made vaccines but no Pfizer, AZ, Moderna.

USA all vaccinated with Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson - more than 4m infected and more than 600k deaths. Although other measures taken on covid control do make a difference on infections/death toll, Sinophobes and or believers of Pfizer haters of Sinovac can hardly prove that Pfizer is that great and Sinovac that bad. Data coming out from Pfizer Israel and Sinovac third world say A LOT more about how biased they have been on their extolling of Pfizer and running down of Sinovac.

(25-09-2021, 10:27 AM)ArielCasper Wrote: [ -> ]Wait hor, those gong gong are forced to collect the gadgets.. If govt never implement go here and there must scan in either with token or tracetogether app, you think any gong gong will be so free to go queue for it.

ofc the fault is not with these ah gongs, but the dire consequence is that they are the ones infected, not those who came out with these ideas

(25-09-2021, 11:21 AM)WhatDoYouThink? Wrote: [ -> ]ofc the fault is not with these ah gongs, but the dire consequence is that they are the ones infected, not those who came out with these ideas

Ok, so you are referring to Ah gongs (Grandpas) and not gong gong (stupid stupid).. Make a lot of difference...

Ya hor why ah...做手脚?

(25-09-2021, 08:44 AM)Levin Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know how to answer. The question never occur to me until this old lady asked me yesterday.

Unlikely that China fudged its figures as that would mean massive number of deaths like USA and India which cannot be hidden nowadays.

Check out this excellent video for the answer if you can understand Chinese. The Youtuber is a SG new citizen and his videos are somewhat pro-China, but this video explains well China's strategy and why.

The answer starts from around the 10min mark.

If you go to HWZ you'll find plenty of people there who still didn't believe in the low number of deaths in China, and stubbornly insisted that China fudged her numbers.

(25-09-2021, 12:12 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote: [ -> ]If you go to HWZ you'll find plenty of people there who still didn't believe in the low number of deaths in China, and stubbornly insisted that China fudged her numbers.

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http://m.caijing.com.cn/api/show?contentid=4803009

(25-09-2021, 10:36 AM)cityhantam Wrote: [ -> ]According to Dr Lee Boon Chai the ex deputy Health minister, the report is a very misleading study led and or written by Dr Kalaiarasu Peariasamy. Because:

1. Lee said more Sinovac vaxxers included into the vaccinated/death data as vaxxers are only included into data a few weeks after being vaccinated. Since at initial program roll-out most of the vaccinated were vaccinated with Sinovac, therefore Sinovac vaxxers make up an even bigger percentage in the data than the 49% ratio it stands for.

2. 49% were vaccinated with Sinovac which means larger sample on Sinovac vaxxers.

3. Much higher percentage of Sinovac vaxxers are elderly people with underlying condition which increases fatality rate. Whereas, most Pfizer and Az vaxxers are younger people. Fatality rate upon infection of the senior, compared to the young, is normally more than 10 times higher.

Sinovac is less efficacious in terms of preventing infection. And it's likely to be less effective in preventing death upon infection. But The West, members and supporters or QUAD, AUKUS and Sinophobes can paint whatever negative picture about China including running down Chinese-made Sinovac and published a report on NST by firstly using a very misleading headline to imply that Sinovac is not effective (then towards the end of the report, it sort of indicates that although Sinovac can prevent death but is more than 5 times less effective than Pfizer and 10 times less effective than AZ are. But most people would just see the misleading headline and wouldn't read the whole article, and many who did couldn't fully comprehend the contents. All they think is Sinovac is NOT effective).

The possibility of the study being biased of Sinophobic agenda cannot be discounted. After all the study was led by Dr Kalaiarasu Peariasamy and or Malay-based NST. Few Indians and Malays in this country are not anti China. Extremely few. If you read what most of them post in FB, you will know being Sinophobic is their standard disposition. Not that I am suggesting they have no reason to be Sinophobic. All I mean is that being Sinophobic makes them prejudiced.

They can say and think what they like about Sinovac and China. The facts are-

To date, China has only 900+k infections and 4636 deaths. All Chinese vaccinated with Sinovac, Sinopharm and other Chinese- made vaccines but no Pfizer, AZ, Moderna.

USA all vaccinated with Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson - more than 4m infected and more than 600k deaths. Although other measures taken on covid control do make a difference on infections/death toll, Sinophobes and or believers of Pfizer haters of Sinovac can hardly prove that Pfizer is that great and Sinovac that bad. Data coming out from Pfizer Israel and Sinovac third world say A LOT more about how biased they have been on their extolling of Pfizer and running down of Sinovac.

Take a look at US UK Israel and Singapore - the data,speaks for itself! 

These countries take only P & M & AZ- how? 6 monthly booster jab!? Become zombies in no time!

(25-09-2021, 12:11 PM)starbugs Wrote: [ -> ]Check out this excellent video for the answer if you can understand Chinese. The Youtuber is a SG new citizen and his videos are somewhat pro-China, but this video explains well China's strategy and why.

Good video. I am especially impressed by the drawings.

The truth hurts but it's true.

Our media v biased ...so many angmo educated, slanted one sided view...our media puke...cos so un journaistic , so slanted to one side..

In anything, there r 2 sides to a coin n there must b a yin yang balance view...otherwise people get angry....n stop subscribing to v  biased views.

empress dowager already declared sino vax not good, eunuchs got to follow

(25-09-2021, 08:55 AM)Migrant Wrote: [ -> ]You believe the west reporters?
Xinjiang force labour? 
See how sophisticated their agriculture machines, the west no match.
My own ears, heard the Filipino maids talking not to trust china vaccines because so many die.
They got these info from toxic medias. Who elso, but Angmos..
US not to be trusted. Back stabbing country.

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Pay and it can be solved. It covers Delta variant and it is free in USA.

Moreover, REGEN-CoV2 may not be the most affordable therapy. A CBS News report from Stephen Gandel estimated that REGEN-CoV2 could cost somewhere between US$1,500 and $6,500 per treatment.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/20...c958a2cba8

Will our government buy this cocktail of drugs and subsidized for the people?

Most private sector people cannot afford it. Else approve Sinovac or Sinopharm or even Cansino as 3rd dose. This will give people a peace of mind.

(25-09-2021, 08:44 AM)Levin Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know how to answer. The question never occur to me until this old lady asked me yesterday.

Unlikely that China fudged its figures as that would mean massive number of deaths like USA and India which cannot be hidden nowadays.

very very simple.

what is the most contagious variant ? Delta 

Delta variant comes from which country ? India

which country will more India people go to ? China or Singapore ? Singapore