For Filipinos like me who grew up under the dictatorship of Ferdinand Marcos Sr., the news that the U.S. military would expand its presence in the Philippines has been dizzying and wounding. The image of Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin shaking hands in Manila last week with the country’s fatuously smiling president, Ferdinand Marcos Jr., son of the former despot, was like some tragic Groundhog Day.
(09-02-2023, 01:30 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]american never force pinoy to open the country to them
and american never force vietnam to be their firends
both are willing to ask american yo come back
american is always welcome by many
chow Cheese Pie (CCP) can never have that
Wow! This is fun - your "American" never force" story is like telling us the Earth is flat.
Perhaps you need some reality check - Did u missed this part from the article ?
Filipino revolutionaries fighting for the nation’s freedom from 1899 to 1902 had no chance against U.S. forces. During the Philippine-American war more than 200,000 Filipinos were killed or died from famine or disease in a conflict that has been likened to genocide and the U.S. wars against Native Americans.
(10-02-2023, 03:15 PM)Manthink Wrote: [ -> ]Wow! This is fun - your "American" never force" story is like telling us the Earth is flat.
Perhaps you need some reality check - Did u missed this part from the article ?
Filipino revolutionaries fighting for the nation’s freedom from 1899 to 1902 had no chance against U.S. forces. During the Philippine-American war more than 200,000 Filipinos were killed or died from famine or disease in a conflict that has been likened to genocide and the U.S. wars against Native Americans.
(10-02-2023, 03:38 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]fark you with fake and half truth news in 1945 without a war did pinoy gain it independence without a war with american why you never add that in
you farking motherfarker
Oh my grotesqueness gets triggered again when Yank's little dirty Genocide history in the Philippines got mentioned by Pinoy themselves. Let's see how he react when the same FACT got told by a AMTK.
(10-02-2023, 03:44 PM)Manthink Wrote: [ -> ]Oh my grotesqueness gets triggered again when Yank's little dirty Genocide history in the Philippines got mentioned by Pinoy themselves. Let's see how he react when the same FACT got told by a AMTK.
(10-02-2023, 04:16 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]fark you today Philippines are Philippines
USA withdraw and do not want to fight
Philippines independence 1946
that why Philippines know USA can forever good friends
even the vietnam also think that way since vietnam know USA withdrew and do not want to fight any more back in 1972 https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/featu...20Republic.
Oh my grotesqueness got even more pissed that he forget to even read the details.
According to his source, Pinoy independence came in 1946 - only after WW2 then Americans, like the Brit did with SG, after over 100 years of colonisation.
What's more the Pinoy decided to change their indepdendece day from July 4 (Does that date sound familiar ?) to June 12.
Why the HELL do the Pinoy do that since Americans are "friends" ? >> Because the US Gov refused to pay Pinoy $ that they promised after WW2.
FACT CHECK from same link: Macapagal adopted the view of historians and many political leaders, that the foundation date of the nation should be June 12, since July 4 was the restoration of that independence. Moreover, the move was made in the context of the rejection of the U.S. House of Representatives on the proposed $73 million additional war reparation bill for the Philippines on May 28, 1962. The rejection, according to President Macapagal, caused “indignation among the Filipinos” and a “loss of American good will in the Philippines.”
eventually they are given the country back WITHOUT a fight
like Afghan,
like iraq,
like Vietnam,
USA is so trusted
they are given the country back
you should ask china to...
set Hongkong free
set taiwan free
set tibet free
you motherfarker dickhead
FREE HONGKONG
FREE TAIWAN
FREE TIBET
(10-02-2023, 04:44 PM)Manthink Wrote: [ -> ]Oh my grotesqueness got even more pissed that he forget to even read the details.
According to his source, Pinoy independence came in 1946 - only after WW2 then Americans, like the Brit did with SG, after over 100 years of colonisation.
What's more the Pinoy decided to change their indepdendece day from July 4 (sounce familiar?) to June 12.
Why do that since Americans are "friends" ?
Because the US Gov refused to pay Pinoy $ that they promised after WW2.
FACT CHECK from same link: Macapagal adopted the view of historians and many political leaders, that the foundation date of the nation should be June 12, since July 4 was the restoration of that independence. Moreover, the move was made in the context of the rejection of the U.S. House of Representatives on the proposed $73 million additional war reparation bill for the Philippines on May 28, 1962. The rejection, according to President Macapagal, caused “indignation among the Filipinos” and a “loss of American good will in the Philippines.”
(10-02-2023, 04:48 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]yeah you motherfarker you are argueing my point
eventually they are given the country back WITHOUT a fight like Afghan,
like iraq,
like Vietnam,
USA is so trusted they are given the country back
Relax lah - This topic is about being Cursed by presence of US military in other countries. Why get so worked up over China ?
Let's say I agree w you the (Trusted) Yanks had "Given back" each countries they invaded, but remember How they say their Good-byes ?
President Marcos visited US in September 2022 and then he visited Beijing in January 2023. He made this decision after the 2 visits. Is this guy better than President Marcos?
Quote:The U.S. and the Philippines agree to a larger American military presence
(13-02-2023, 12:08 PM)teaserteam Wrote: [ -> ]President Marcos visited US in September 2022 and then he visited Beijing in January 2023. He made this decision after the 2 visits. Is this guy better than President Marcos?
He saw the CCP for what they are and made that decision.
(09-02-2023, 12:17 PM)Manthink Wrote: [ -> ]8 Feb 2023
For all of the troubled history, President Biden has a chance to redeem the United States. Representative Susan Wild of Pennsylvania has urged her colleagues to sign the Philippine Human Rights Act, which would suspend security assistance to the Philippines “until violence against dissidents ceases and accountability against the perpetrators commences”. Ms. Wild and a bipartisan group of legislators also are calling for sanctions against Philippine human rights violators.
Until then, the long dance between Washington and Manila continues, to the recurring horror of the Filipino people.
Gina Apostol is a Philippine novelist. Her works include Bibliolepsy and The Revolution According to Raymundo Mata, both of which won the Philippine National Book Award.
Opinion pieces written by arty farty people like this novelist Gina Apostol are usually very emotionally immersive as such folks are very apt at framing their analysis and findings in a heart bleeding and emotional manner. This is a good thing as far as communication goes.
However the fatal shortfall of such people is usually the inability to formulate a practical and feasible solution to the problem. Gina says ordinary Pinoys are being predated by vultures like US and China which I suppose is somewhat true from a Philippines point of view. So what exactly is she suggesting President Marcos do?
Broadly speaking the options can be #1 side with US, #2 side with China, #3 play both sides but also run the risk of offending both parties. Naturally each option comes with its own trade offs and it is up to her to argue why her particular solution provides the best benefit for cost.
Instead of doing that, she ends her piece with a totally childish beyond measure proposal - the solution, according to her, is for Biden to sign some "Philippine Human Rights Act". Is this some sort of a joke? How will Biden signing some stupid US domestic bill help solve the major geopolitical and historical / colonial problems she laboriously elaborated to us earlier above?
There is an International Law called Laws of the Seas or UNCLOS. If there is a dispute over the ocean territory, the laws stipulate a limit of 200 nautical miles as EEZ. How far is this island from China?
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