Singapore can achieve zero emissions much quicker quitting Oil refineries to thank Tesla.
In recent years, Shell petrol stations disappearing in large numbers.
ExxonMobil and Shell oil refineries are killers.
It's like asking them to ban cigarette
(05-04-2023, 09:54 AM)Scythian Wrote: [ -> ]Singapore can achieve zero emissions much quicker quitting Oil refineries to thank Tesla.
In recent years, Shell petrol stations disappearing in large numbers.
ExxonMobil and Shell oil refineries are killers.
The refineries are of strategic importance.
(05-04-2023, 09:56 AM)Dan Wrote: [ -> ]It's like asking them to ban cigarette
They actually want to ban the cigarette due to high cancer treatment bill but they also want the tourists coming to Sg.
You cant stop/ban tourists from smoking This is the irony.
(05-04-2023, 11:53 AM)RiseofAsia Wrote: [ -> ]They actually want to ban the cigarette due to high cancer treatment bill but they also want the tourists coming to Sg.
You cant stop/ban tourists from smoking This is the irony.
It's not the tourist it's the money from tax collection
Tourists are banned from chewing gum
(05-04-2023, 11:57 AM)Dan Wrote: [ -> ]It's not the tourist it's the money from tax collection
Tourists are banned from chewing gum
Chewing gum can ban but not cigarette.
This is also another high tax revenue item.
Yes oil refineries should be converted to roller coasters
(05-04-2023, 11:34 AM)winbig Wrote: [ -> ]The refineries are of strategic importance.
By killing people with terminal illness
(05-04-2023, 12:34 PM)Scythian Wrote: [ -> ]By killing people with terminal illness
They provide a lot of well paying jobs for Singaporeans. Moreover a lot of people with terminal illness not necessary from this industry. U got any proof? Don't just comment only.
(05-04-2023, 09:54 AM)Scythian Wrote: [ -> ]Singapore can achieve zero emissions much quicker quitting Oil refineries to thank Tesla.
In recent years, Shell petrol stations disappearing in large numbers.
ExxonMobil and Shell oil refineries are killers.
Yes, but achieving zero emissions is not the be all and end all objective of the government. There is no way to immediately replace the massive job loses and the accompanied economic impact that will result from suddenly closing out the refineries.
Besides direct job losses from closing EM, Shell and SRC, the marine logistics, bunkering, storage industry will immediately take a hit. The next to kena will be the vendors providing services to the refinery supply chain such as EPC, M&E firms.
The ripples will then also hit the vast number of heavy industrial firms based mostly in Tuas that require petrochemicals feed. This sort of disruption will likely lead to severe reorganizations and relocations which will cause massive damage to our secondary industry.
Last but not least, end users of fuel such as shipping, airlines, deiseal trucks and petrol cars will also likely experience price surge as they will have to start importing refined specialty fuels.
The current approach of allowing them to slowly scale down or repurpose their refinery activities towards lower carbon emission products is the right way.
TS tok cok!
Ask your beloved Aussies to stop selling and using coal, oil and gas lor!
(06-04-2023, 11:37 AM)maxsanic Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, but achieving zero emissions is not the be all and end all objective of the government. There is no way to immediately replace the massive job loses and the accompanied economic impact that will result from suddenly closing out the refineries.
Besides direct job losses from closing EM, Shell and SRC, the marine logistics, bunkering, storage industry will immediately take a hit. The next to kena will be the vendors providing services to the refinery supply chain such as EPC, M&E firms.
The ripples will then also hit the vast number of heavy industrial firms based mostly in Tuas that require petrochemicals feed. This sort of disruption will likely lead to severe reorganizations and relocations which will cause massive damage to our secondary industry.
Last but not least, end users of fuel such as shipping, airlines, deiseal trucks and petrol cars will also likely experience price surge as they will have to start importing refined specialty fuels.
The current approach of allowing them to slowly scale down or repurpose their refinery activities towards lower carbon emission products is the right way.
All advanced countries can do it
(06-04-2023, 02:02 PM)Scythian Wrote: [ -> ]All advanced countries can do it
Nope, contrary to intuition the top 15 countries with the biggest refining capacity in the world consist of a mixed bag with a majority from advanced countries.
Advanced Countries (9):
Singapore
Spain
Italy
Canada
Germany
Saudi
Japan
South Korea
US
Developing Countries (6):
Mexico
Brazil
Iran
India
China
Russia
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/15-countr...18383.html
In an ideal world any country, be it developed or developing, would like to achieve carbon neutrality ASAP, but real life policy making is often trying to navigate treacherous water by balancing competing interests while moving slowly towards a goal.
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Shell continuously reducing the numbers of petrol stations ..selling to Ampol.
Once EV flooding the market, it's too late for Singapore.
(08-04-2023, 07:33 PM)Scythian Wrote: [ -> ].
Shell continuously reducing the numbers of petrol stations ..selling to Ampol.
Once EV flooding the market, it's too late for Singapore.
EV will be flooding the market soon, in a few more years time, all motor vehicles have to be EV................
(08-04-2023, 07:41 PM)debono Wrote: [ -> ]EV will be flooding the market soon, in a few more years time, all motor vehicles have to be EV................
How HDB car owners going to share electric charging points in each block for 300-400 cars?
HDB cannot guarantee there's no power outage.
(08-04-2023, 07:48 PM)Scythian Wrote: [ -> ]How HDB car owners going to share electric charging points in each block for 300-400 cars?
HDB have to design a car park with the required power points for the EVs.................