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RE: It is wrong to be gay - Oyk - 15-03-2024

(15-03-2024, 04:05 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Once you're accepted Christ, all your sins, past and future, will be paid for by him. The exception is blasphemy against the HS, an unforgivable sin and even Jesus's blood cannot help. The HS must be a very special person of the Trinity. 

But if you ever slip and fall into sins, your golden ticket is revoked.

Is that right?

Is eating pork a sin?   Rolleyes


RE: It is wrong to be gay - cheekopekman - 15-03-2024

(15-03-2024, 04:10 PM)Oyk Wrote:  Is eating pork a sin?   Rolleyes

The Israelites were forbidden to eat pork lah! Big Grin Are you a Jew? Thinking


RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 15-03-2024

(15-03-2024, 04:10 PM)Oyk Wrote:  Is eating pork a sin?   Rolleyes

Pork is forbidden. So eating it willfully is a transgression, ergo a sin.


RE: It is wrong to be gay - Oyk - 15-03-2024

(14-03-2024, 04:44 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Do you just believe blindly what your pastor told you? Or is it wise for you to also make your own studies?

St Paul never met Jesus and doesn't even know what Jesus looks like, which begs to obvious question. How does he know the one who came to him on the road to Damascus was Jesus?

I bet you never thought to ask that question.

And you have met Muhammad?  You know what he looked like?  WTF are you on about here man.   Rolleyes


RE: It is wrong to be gay - Oyk - 15-03-2024

(15-03-2024, 04:14 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Pork is forbidden. So eating it willfully is a transgression, ergo a sin.

Just because Muhammad did not like to eat pork, you must follow him?  Come on man.  I like to eat satay, especially pork satay.  You can never get the same taste using chicken, mutton and beef as the meat for satay.  Rolleyes


RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 15-03-2024

(15-03-2024, 04:08 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Aiya on judgement day then u know lah.
God’s ways are higher than our’s 
At least we have a saviour to hope on, u leh?

My savior is the God of Jesus and I rest all my hope on God.


RE: It is wrong to be gay - Oyk - 15-03-2024

(15-03-2024, 04:12 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  The Israelites were forbidden to eat pork lah! Big Grin Are you a Jew? Thinking

That's their business.  I am a Han Gentile.   Rolleyes


RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 15-03-2024

(15-03-2024, 04:16 PM)Oyk Wrote:  Just because Muhammad did not like to eat pork, you must follow him?  Come on man.  I like to eat satay, especially pork satay.  You can never get the same taste using chicken, mutton and beef as the meat for satay.  Rolleyes

Jesus also doesn't eat pork.

I don't eat pork because God says don't, not because of Muhammad or whoever.


RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 15-03-2024

(15-03-2024, 04:14 PM)Oyk Wrote:  And you have met Muhammad?  You know what he looked like?  WTF are you on about here man.   Rolleyes

St Paul said Jesus appeared to him in a vision. No one else saw what St Paul said he saw.

St Paul never met Jesus before that and St Paul doesn't know what Jesus looks like. So I wonder how St Paul knew it was Jesus.


RE: It is wrong to be gay - Lukongsimi - 15-03-2024

(15-03-2024, 04:17 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  My savior is the God of Jesus and I rest all my hope on God.
For those who are self seeking n refuse to accept the truth there will be anger n wrath


RE: It is wrong to be gay - Omnipresent88 - 15-03-2024

https://youtu.be/qXUfncM7AZ4?si=TEEAIFoDLSRV3-lc


RE: It is wrong to be gay - Lukongsimi - 15-03-2024

(15-03-2024, 04:21 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  St Paul said Jesus appeared to him in a vision. No one else saw what St Paul said he saw.

St Paul never met Jesus before that and St Paul doesn't know what Jesus looks like. So I wonder how St Paul knew it was Jesus.
Paul asked who are you Lord?
Jesus replied to Paul “I am Jesus”.


RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 15-03-2024

(15-03-2024, 04:25 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  For those who are self seeking n refuse to accept the truth there will be anger n wrath

Yes, I believe that too.

So, now that we know the Bible has errors and forgeries, is it wise to use the Bible as a guide to salvation?


RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 15-03-2024

(15-03-2024, 04:27 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Paul asked who are you Lord?
Jesus replied to Paul “I am Jesus”.

And St Paul has no way of knowing if it was indeed Jesus because he doesn't know what Jesus looks like. 

If it had been Lucifer instead who came to St Paul, how would St Paul know the difference?


RE: It is wrong to be gay - Lukongsimi - 15-03-2024

(15-03-2024, 04:14 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Pork is forbidden. So eating it willfully is a transgression, ergo a sin.

It was in the OT for the Jews 
NT no mention of eating pork is a sin.


RE: It is wrong to be gay - Omnipresent88 - 15-03-2024

https://youtu.be/8koDaIISKSM?si=nfa3dd-aiEGj5prP


RE: It is wrong to be gay - Omnipresent88 - 15-03-2024

https://youtu.be/eC9iUQTmhC0?si=oERgW2Q5O4OlH5v9


RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 15-03-2024

(15-03-2024, 04:47 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Better than to read your Koran can leads to salvation ?
Most of the words written in the Holy Bible were inspired by God.

How do you know that? Did the author of Mark say he was inspired by God?


RE: It is wrong to be gay - Lukongsimi - 15-03-2024

(15-03-2024, 05:02 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  How do you know that? Did the author of Mark say he was inspired by God?

Your Koran inspired by who?


RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 15-03-2024

(15-03-2024, 05:30 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Your Koran inspired by who?

We believe the Quran is a revelation from God, containing the verbatim words of God.

We are in the month of Ramadan and it is in this month that the Quran was revealed. It is also in this month that Muslims all over the world will recite the Quran from cover to cover. If you have Muslim friends around you who are fasting, you can try to impress them by asking "Have you completed the Quran yet?"


RE: It is wrong to be gay - Lukongsimi - 15-03-2024

(15-03-2024, 05:35 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  We believe the Quran is a revelation from God, containing the verbatim words of God.

We are in the month of Ramadan and it is in this month that the Quran was revealed. It is also in this month that Muslims all over the world will recite the Quran from cover to cover. If you have Muslim friends around you who are fasting, you can try to impress them by asking "Have you completed the Quran yet?"

I never saw my Malay coll reciting the Quran from covers to covers during fasting 
Or never preach what it is all about 

Never saw them carry quran also.

But one asked me pray for them instead 

 during fasting 
They seem tired


RE: It is wrong to be gay - grotesqueness - 15-03-2024

(15-03-2024, 05:35 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  We believe the Quran is a revelation from God, containing the verbatim words of God.

We are in the month of Ramadan and it is in this month that the Quran was revealed. It is also in this month that Muslims all over the world will recite the Quran from cover to cover. If you have Muslim friends around you who are fasting, you can try to impress them by asking "Have you completed the Quran yet?"

THERE ARE MUSLIM and THERE ARE MUSLIM


RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 15-03-2024

(15-03-2024, 05:50 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  I never saw my Malay coll reciting the Quran from covers to covers during fasting 
Or never preach what it is all about 

Never saw them carry quran also.

But one asked me pray for them instead 

 during fasting 
They seem tired

So, how did St Paul know it was Jesus and not an imposter?

I think there was no way for St Paul to tell. So that means, we also cannot be too sure if it was Jesus who visited St Paul that fateful day and not some other entity.

But let's look at the teachings of St Paul which he claimed was from Jesus himself. I'd be highly suspicious of St Paul, as did the disciples. All the teachings St Paul introduced were in direct contradiction to Jesus's teachings. For example, Jesus said the Law must stay but St Paul said the Law is gone. There is a long list of St Paul's teachings which is in direct contradiction to Jesus's teachings.

So, won't be highly suspicious of St Paul because of that?


RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 15-03-2024

(15-03-2024, 05:58 PM)grotesqueness Wrote:  THERE ARE MUSLIM and THERE ARE MUSLIM

Why are you using redundancy? Big Grin

I'm kidding. And I get you man.

There are Muslims in name only but non-practicing.


RE: It is wrong to be gay - grotesqueness - 15-03-2024

(15-03-2024, 06:02 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Why are you using redundancy? Big Grin
I'm kidding. And I get you man.
There are Muslims in name only but non-practicing.


aiyah

THERE ARE MUSLIM and THERE ARE MUSLIM 
HUH?
THERE ARE MUSLIM and THERE ARE MUSLIM 




https://www.rferl.org/a/taliban-girls-education-islam-takeover-anniversary/32546094.html


RE: It is wrong to be gay - Lukongsimi - 15-03-2024

(15-03-2024, 06:01 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So, how did St Paul know it was Jesus and not an imposter?

I think there was no way for St Paul to tell. So that means, we also cannot be too sure if it was Jesus who visited St Paul that fateful day and not some other entity.

But let's look at the teachings of St Paul which he claimed was from Jesus himself. I'd be highly suspicious of St Paul, as did the disciples. All the teachings St Paul introduced were in direct contradiction to Jesus's teachings. For example, Jesus said the Law must stay but St Paul said the Law is gone. There is a long list of St Paul's teachings which is in direct contradiction to Jesus's teachings.

So, won't be highly suspicious of St Paul because of that?
True lah where got false


RE: It is wrong to be gay - EvertonDiehard - 15-03-2024

This really looks so wrong

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RE: It is wrong to be gay - Lukongsimi - 15-03-2024

(15-03-2024, 04:17 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  My savior is the God of Jesus and I rest all my hope on God.

Jesus and Father are one


RE: It is wrong to be gay - Lukongsimi - 15-03-2024




RE: It is wrong to be gay - cheekopekman - 15-03-2024

(15-03-2024, 06:19 PM)EvertonDiehard Wrote:  This really looks so wrong

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Bible talks about holy kiss lah! Big Grin