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RE: It is wrong to be gay - Lukongsimi - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 12:15 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Would you like to read articles about that meeting? It is a very famous event and a part of the Greetings between Allah and our prophet is recorded in the Hadith and we recite that Greetings in our 5 daily prayers.U haven’t answer my q
Where did your prophet met God n what did God spoke to him?
RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 12:26 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: Who did God speak to? Which part did I lie? Did Muhammad identify Gabriel in the cave? If he did and know he was dealing with gabriel I will convert to a muslim
Sorry. I didn't say you lied. When I say falsify, I mean you cannot prove what I believe about the Quran as false, ergo falsify it.
The first meeting between the prophet and Gabriel in the cave, no identification afaik. A while later, a Christian by the name of Waraqa identified the angel as Gabriel.
But yes, the angel did identify himself as Gabriel to our prophet, when he appeared on the horizon.
RE: It is wrong to be gay - pinkpanther - 20-03-2024
Look Ali, we all have doubts. When I plant seeds of doubts you called me a liar.
Are you not doing it on a daily basis?
I know you are a faithful Muslim and I respect your vast knowledge. Are there not
anything more important than this kind of discussions when you or others can get angry or hurt easily?
RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 12:30 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: U haven’t answer my q
Where did your prophet met God n what did God spoke to him?
Where is a bit difficult to say coz the meeting took place out of this world. Even the angel Gabriel could not go there.
Among the things God spoke to our prophet was the establishment of the 5 daily prayers.
If you want to read more. https://muslim.sg/articles/isra-mi-raj-the-miraculous-night-journey-of-the-chosen-one
RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 12:32 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: Look Ali, we all have doubts. When I plant seeds of doubts you called me a liar.
Are you not doing it on a daily basis?
I know you are a faithful Muslim and I respect your vast knowledge. Are there not
anything more important than this kind of discussions when you or others can get angry or hurt easily?
I've only so far said you spread lies about our prophet. Other than that, I don't remember ever calling you a liar.
Anyhow, you have not planted any seeds of doubt in me. Your questions so far are pretty basic and I've no problem addressing them. Keep them coming please.
I don't consider myself a pious Muslim. I'm kinda ordinary, with the usual failings.
Why are you hurt if I tell you why I don't believe what you believe?
RE: It is wrong to be gay - Lukongsimi - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 12:33 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Where is a bit difficult to say coz the meeting took place out of this world. Even the angel Gabriel could not go there.Unbelievable fairy tale.
Among the things God spoke to our prophet was the establishment of the 5 daily prayers.
If you want to read more. https://muslim.sg/articles/isra-mi-raj-the-miraculous-night-journey-of-the-chosen-one
RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 12:39 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Unbelievable fairy tale.
What about zombies in the New Testament? Do you believe zombies were walking about in downtown Jerusalem on that day as recorded in the NT?
RE: It is wrong to be gay - Lukongsimi - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 12:40 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: What about zombies in the New Testament? Do you believe zombies were walking about in downtown Jerusalem on that day as recorded in the NT?
Where got zombies ?
Dreaming?
RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 12:42 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Where got zombies ?
Dreaming?
Read Matthew 27:51-53
Maybe I should not use the term zombies but that is exactly how Matthew describes it. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared to many people.
RE: It is wrong to be gay - pinkpanther - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 12:38 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: I've only so far said you spread lies about our prophet. Other than that, I don't remember ever calling you a liar.
Anyhow, you have not planted any seeds of doubt in me. Your questions so far are pretty basic and I've no problem addressing them. Keep them coming please.
I don't consider myself a pious Muslim. I'm kinda ordinary, with the usual failings.
Why are you hurt if I tell you why I don't believe what you believe?
How is one considered a prophet if God does not speak to him directly?
RE: It is wrong to be gay - Lukongsimi - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 12:50 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Read Matthew 27:51-53
Maybe I should not use the term zombies but that is exactly how Matthew describes it. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared to many people.
Right
U see the power of Jesus ‘s resurrection even the dead can rise up
It will occur again during the second coming of Christ the rapture
RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 12:51 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: How is one considered a prophet if God does not speak to him directly?
Hullo
Didn't you notice I was talking to Lukongsimi about the miraculous night journey of the Prophet?
But even so, that is not a criterion for prophethood, that God must go and speak to him directly. There are many prophets mentioned in the Bible, like King David or John the Baptist for example. Did the many prophets all have direct person to person conversations with God?
RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 12:54 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Right
U see the power of Jesus ‘s resurrection even the dead can rise up
It will occur again during the second coming of Christ the rapture
Earlier, you deny the zombies. Now you agree zombies were walking about in downtown Jerusalem on that day.
I won't ridicule what you believe.
RE: It is wrong to be gay - Lukongsimi - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 12:57 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: HulloBut your god is allah
Didn't you notice I was talking to Lukongsimi about the miraculous night journey of the Prophet?
But even so, that is not a criterion for prophethood, that God must go and speak to him directly. There are many prophets mentioned in the Bible, like King David or John the Baptist for example. Did the many prophets all have direct person to person conversations with God?
RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 01:01 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: But your god is allah
So too is Jesus's God Allah.
Go read the Bible in Arabic and you will see Allah on practically every page.
If you remember the movie The Passion, the director wanted to make it authentic so he made the actor for Jesus call out "Ilahi", from which we get the proper name Allah.
What is the name for God in Aramaic? Allaha
RE: It is wrong to be gay - Lukongsimi - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 01:04 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: So too is Jesus's God Allah.
Go read the Bible in Arabic and you will see Allah on practically every page.
If you remember the movie The Passion, the director wanted to make it authentic so he made the actor for Jesus call out "Ilahi", from which we get the proper name Allah.
What is the name for God in Aramaic? Allaha
God is Abba father
RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 12:51 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: How is one considered a prophet if God does not speak to him directly?
Again, why were there 3 large Israelite tribes right there waiting for the arrival of a prophet?
How did they knew the prophet would appear there? Because it is written in their scriptures.
RE: It is wrong to be gay - Lukongsimi - 20-03-2024
Are Yahweh and Allah the same?
Are Yahweh and Allah The Same Deity? Mark said Yahweh and Allah are not the same deity. He used the analogy of talking about a friend at a class reunion to illustrate the variances between a Christian's view of Yahweh and a Muslim's beliefs about Allah.
RE: It is wrong to be gay - pinkpanther - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 01:04 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: So too is Jesus's God Allah.
Go read the Bible in Arabic and you will see Allah on practically every page.
If you remember the movie The Passion, the director wanted to make it authentic so he made the actor for Jesus call out "Ilahi", from which we get the proper name Allah.
What is the name for God in Aramaic? Allaha
Yahweh and not Allah
RE: It is wrong to be gay - pinkpanther - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 01:04 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: So too is Jesus's God Allah.
Go read the Bible in Arabic and you will see Allah on practically every page.
If you remember the movie The Passion, the director wanted to make it authentic so he made the actor for Jesus call out "Ilahi", from which we get the proper name Allah.
What is the name for God in Aramaic? Allaha
Don anyhow falsify leh
RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 01:10 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: God is Abba father
Ok.
And Jesus said the Father is the ONLY TRUE GOD.
If the Father is the ONLY true God and you believe the son is God, doesn't that automatically make the son a false God because Jesus already said the Father is the ONLY true God?
RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 01:17 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: Don anyhow falsify leh
I'm not falsifying anything.
I'm explaining what many Christians don't know because of the lack of knowledge of the Semitic ancient language.
Fyi, the ancient Arabic, Hebrew, and Aramaic are all sister languages. I'm trained in one of them.
RE: It is wrong to be gay - Lukongsimi - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 01:17 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Ok.Father and Son are 1
And Jesus said he is the ONLY TRUE GOD.
If the Father is the ONLY true God and you believe the son is God, doesn't that automatically make the son a false God because Jesus already said the Father is the ONLY true God?
RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 01:20 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Father and Son are 1
And the disciples were also included.
RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 20-03-2024
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RE: It is wrong to be gay - pinkpanther - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 01:17 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Ok.
And Jesus said the Father is the ONLY TRUE GOD.
If the Father is the ONLY true God and you believe the son is God, doesn't that automatically make the son a false God because Jesus already said the Father is the ONLY true God?
jesus is the ultimate revelation of god. He is a mirror of god
RE: It is wrong to be gay - Lukongsimi - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 01:22 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:For Muslim Christians to address
RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 01:29 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: jesus is the ultimate revelation of god. He is a mirror of god
Is Jesus God to you? Do you pray to Jesus?
RE: It is wrong to be gay - pinkpanther - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 01:34 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Is Jesus God to you? Do you pray to Jesus?
You pray In the name of the Father,son and the Holy spirit. Which part do you not understand? They are all one.
RE: It is wrong to be gay - Ali Imran - 20-03-2024
(20-03-2024, 01:38 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: You pray In the name of the Father,son and the Holy spirit. Which part do you not understand?
It is very difficult for me to understand.
Do you direct your prayer to just 1 of the 3 or all 3 at the same time?