(18-04-2024, 06:08 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Muhammad you know...the person who received the relevations from God did not even deserve to have a day declared for him as a holiday?? Where is the justice...where is the logic?

(18-04-2024, 06:14 PM)Hope Wrote:  It is not a religious duty towards lord of the worlds.

We don’t even celebrate the day of Quran revelation.

(18-04-2024, 06:22 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You know why it is not celebrated?? Because it is not the truth!! It is as simple as that!

(18-04-2024, 06:27 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Sorry...I forget to add in good Friday.... the commemoration of the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ....

If you Muslims do not think Jesus died on the cross...you should forgo this day as a holiday...

Only the truth gets a holiday you know

(18-04-2024, 06:31 PM)Hope Wrote:  You ask government to cancel the holidays.

(18-04-2024, 06:45 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Even the govt respects christian  belief

(18-04-2024, 06:47 PM)Hope Wrote:  Christian got 10 holidays ?

(18-04-2024, 06:49 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  2 enough why so greedy 
Yours not even 1?

(18-04-2024, 04:21 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I'm not interested in local politics.

(18-04-2024, 03:29 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Don't do caricatures. Let's stick to what our scriptures say. 

(18-04-2024, 01:02 PM)Hope Wrote:  Okay. If Islam is true,Where are going to run on the day of Judgement?Read below verses carefully 


[Quran 5:116] GOD will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary, did you say to the people, `Make me and my mother idols beside GOD?’ “ He will say, “Be You glorified. I could not utter what was not right. Had I said it, You already would have known it. You know my thoughts, and I do not know Your thoughts. You know all the secrets.

[Quran 5:117] “I told them only what You commanded me to say, that: ‘You shall worship GOD, my Lord and your Lord.’ I was a witness among them for as long as I lived with them. When You terminated my life on earth, You became the Watcher over them. You witness all things.

[Quran5:118] “If You punish them, they are Your constituents. If You forgive them, You are the Almighty, Most Wise.”

(12-04-2024, 11:41 AM)singaporean1964 Wrote:  https://youtu.be/VbsKllNqAbE

(18-04-2024, 07:44 PM)Oyk Wrote:  So Muh said that God said this to Jesus, and Jesus said that to God. 

And Muh said that He was the last and greatest prophet, he was BFF with Jesus... he could date a 6 year old kid.... 

And I am supposed to be considered to be not believing blindly but with "knowledge" if I recite the Quran including the above portion.... 

(18-04-2024, 07:58 PM)Oyk Wrote:  Ali Imam became a Christian after seeing Jesus who even spoke to him.

Now Ali Imam says nobody has seen Jesus.

Apparently Ali Imam is saying that the vision Ali Imam saw might be Satan.

(18-04-2024, 08:06 PM)Hope Wrote:  Muh's Quran says, Jesus Will testify on the day of Judgement.
As per  Muh's Quran, who ever associate partners to creator of heaven and earth, will reside in hell forever.

(18-04-2024, 08:09 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Ali said it might be the devil wor....so I put it to him that muh did not know who gave him the relevation because the angel did not identify himself to muh....could it be the devil?

(18-04-2024, 08:13 PM)Oyk Wrote:  Corrected for you...

(18-04-2024, 08:22 PM)Hope Wrote:  Correct. Quran was given to Muhammad and teaches only oneness of God, like Godpel(Injeel) Jesus/Isa, Torah(Taurat) Moses/Musa ,Pslam( saboor) David/ Dawood.

(18-04-2024, 08:18 PM)Oyk Wrote:  Salman Rushdie had to go into hiding for saying Satanic Verses. Eventually they got him.

If we say what you wrote, Ali will immediately report to mata. We can only stop arguing with him. Even if you say muh was a false prophet, he will take big offence.

爹亲娘亲不如 Muh 亲。Muslims love Muh to bits

(18-04-2024, 08:40 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I never criticise muh what...I just put up the facts..if he wants to report if he feels hurt...then end this open discussions lor

(18-04-2024, 07:15 PM)Hope Wrote:  Which days?
If they respect your religion, you should get more

(18-04-2024, 09:06 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I have no issue if you don't believe Prophet Muhammad (صلي الله عليه وسلم) was a messenger of the God of Israel. We are all free to believe whatever we want to believe. You can shout at the top of your voice that you disbelieve he was a prophet also it won't matter to me. Let's get that out of the way.

Then you went on and alluded that our prophet got the Quran from satan or the devil instead of the angel Gabriel. The same EXACT accusation was thrown at Jesus by the Pharisees, accusing Jesus of being under possession by Beelzebub. What was Jesus's reply? Awesome reply and I will use the same reply when you alluded that our prophet received the Quran from the devil. 

Read Mark 3.

(18-04-2024, 09:32 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Post 659 and 665...you said that ..can someone mistaken if it was indeed the devil who came to the dream instead of jesus?...

So I put it up to you that it might be the devil instead of jibreel who passed the relevations to muh...because muh had absolutely no idea who the other party was...because there was no authentication between the 2 of them!

(18-04-2024, 09:54 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Have you read Mark 3 as suggested? Do you understand that parable in Mark 3? Let me make it simple for you. If the message is to turn away from satan, the message cannot be from satan. The Quran says to turn away from satan, in quite a few places.