(13-04-2024, 10:26 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I already answered it. 

I agree 100% and I will try to follow 100%.

(12-04-2024, 11:45 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I don't mock. I ask critical questions that you cannot answer, so you sweep them aside as mocking, to get out of answering any of my questions.

So, tell me if you agree with the teaching I highlighted in Ephesians 5? Should the wife submit to the husband as she does to God? Or just submit to the husband without the God part, would you agree with that?

(13-04-2024, 10:29 AM)Oyk Wrote:  Para One
Will it help if you are hiding behind a VPN?

Para Two
Do not try to twist and turn, and change the subject writing what you think I am or am not. All irrelevant.  Just answer my question: are you a PR, or working here as a FT, or a new citizen?  What is your race?

Para Three
I am just one purrson.  It takes a whole village and a long taim to contribute to a culture.  So I admit that I contributed nothing to Han Chinese culture.  

(13-04-2024, 10:40 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:   "try" to follow 100%

I would expect an answer like this

"I agree 100% and I will follow 100%."

At least you are a Singaporean malay..the indigenous, the aborigines
Your pal Hope should piak off to where he belongs...

(13-04-2024, 10:41 AM)Oyk Wrote:  Christian women who obey God's Word submit to their husbands.  But it does not mean that they would become a sex-slave, and it does not mean that if they'd committed adultery, you can beat the hell out of them.  That's violence, and B is OK with that too.

(13-04-2024, 10:42 AM)Hope Wrote:  I have a degree from Singapore university,I have pink IC and passport.
My two children also have degrees from Singapore university(one is still an undergraduate).
I have never used VPN and even when I travelled to China as well.
I am not a retiree. I still have a Job.I also trade forex.

(13-04-2024, 10:46 AM)Oyk Wrote:  What is your race?  Why so shy, need to leave that out?

(13-04-2024, 10:43 AM)Oyk Wrote:  Hope refused to answer my questions.  He beat around the bush, and tried to change the subject.

Very cunning.

(13-04-2024, 10:43 AM)Oyk Wrote:  Hope refused to answer my questions.  He beat around the bush, and tried to change the subject.

Very cunning.

(13-04-2024, 10:49 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  He is a foreigner...he doesn't belong here..but he wants his voice to be heard!
As a welcoming host...I would like to show him my middle finger 

(13-04-2024, 09:47 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I got it a long time ago.

I wonder if Luncheonmeat is like you. He said the Bible is the word of God. Is he also discarding the word of God which he doesn't like?

Quote:5 1 Follow God’s example, therefore, as dearly loved children 2 and walk in the way of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.

3 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. 4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. 5 For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.[a] 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient. 7 Therefore do not be partners with them.

8 For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light 9 (for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) 10 and find out what pleases the Lord. 11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 It is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. 13 But everything exposed by the light becomes visible—and everything that is illuminated becomes a light. 14 This is why it is said:

“Wake up, sleeper,
    rise from the dead,
    and Christ will shine on you.”

15 Be very careful, then, how you live—not as unwise but as wise, 16 making the most of every opportunity, because the days are evil. 17 Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the Lord’s will is. 18 Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit, 19 speaking to one another with psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit. Sing and make music from your heart to the Lord, 20 always giving thanks to God the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Instructions for Christian Households
21 Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.

22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing[b] her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”[c] 32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.[/b]

(13-04-2024, 10:49 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  He is a foreigner...he doesn't belong here..but he wants his voice to be heard!
As a welcoming host...I would like to show him my middle finger 

(13-04-2024, 10:41 AM)Oyk Wrote:  Christian women who obey God's Word submit to their husbands.  But it does not mean that they would become a sex-slave, and it does not mean that if they'd committed adultery, you can beat the hell out of them.  That's violence, and B is OK with that too.

(13-04-2024, 12:02 AM)Hope Wrote:  Jesus named was used to market Roman religion to people like you.
Jesus didn’t die for anyone.

Again we don’t care if  some one leave Islam.Do you want me to start a thread and show you how many churches have been changed to mosque?
There are many churches which were converted to clubs. Unfortunately I don’t have videos

(13-04-2024, 10:49 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  All the time tot he is quiet 
Now show tail

(13-04-2024, 10:55 AM)Hope Wrote:  I am not a foreigner. But my father was.I was born here.

(13-04-2024, 09:57 AM)Hope Wrote:  Do you think only Malay are Muslim in Singapore? There are dozens of nationalities.

Al Qaeda and IsIs are schemes created  by children of Roman and Israelis.
Remember their forefathers created own religion and used the name of Jesus and fairy crucifixion to market their religion to plunder those colonies, promising heaven and taking their wealth with them.
Grandchildren of Roman know it is too late to touch religion of Islam. So they created militant Islam to create instability and plunder Muslim countries .

Please don’t worry I am not affiliated to any militant or political party 

I pay taxes here. May be more than you do.
I have a residence 
I don’t have criminal records 
I am a customer of StarHub.

(13-04-2024, 10:57 AM)Oyk Wrote:  In the other thread, he was gentle and not assertive.  He used videos to do the talking, you couldn't argue with him, you only could argue with the video, ie say you don't believe what you watched.

In this thread about Ali Imam converting to Christianity when Jesus appeared, he felt like Islam had lost while I felt that someone was saved, not lost.  He replied to deny but I decided to let it pass.

His apologetics here were strong-headed, he did not share Islam, he attacked Christianity, and sometimes even mocked like saying that we need Jesus to unite the many denominations, and I could see the smirk from behind his keyboard.

(13-04-2024, 10:57 AM)Oyk Wrote:  In the other thread, he was gentle and not assertive.  He used videos to do the talking, you couldn't argue with him, you only could argue with the video, ie say you don't believe what you watched.

In this thread about Ali Imam converting to Christianity when Jesus appeared, he felt like Islam had lost while I felt that someone was saved, not lost.  He replied to deny but I decided to let it pass.

His apologetics here were strong-headed, he did not share Islam, he attacked Christianity, and sometimes even mocked like saying that we need Jesus to unite the many denominations, and I could see the smirk from behind his keyboard.

(13-04-2024, 10:56 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Ok. You agree to that teaching but PinkPanther doesn't. Interesting.

Yes, I agree the Bible didn't say if your wife committed adultery, you should beat her. No such thing in the Bible. According to the Bible, if your wife committed adultery, you must put her to death.

(13-04-2024, 10:47 AM)Hope Wrote:  I am a Muslim.I can speak seven languages. I also can read Arabic

(12-04-2024, 10:46 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote:  Ha! This is the joker Rony Tan who invited an ex-Buddhist to go onstage to criticize Buddhism. What a good pastor he is!

(13-04-2024, 10:56 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Ok. You agree to that teaching but PinkPanther doesn't. Interesting.

Yes, I agree the Bible didn't say if your wife committed adultery, you should beat her. No such thing in the Bible. According to the Bible, if your wife committed adultery, you must put her to death.

Quote:'Ubada b. as-Samit reported: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Receive (teaching) from me, receive (teaching) from me. Allah has ordained a way for those (women). When an unmarried male commits adultery with an unmarried female (they should receive) one hundred lashes and banishment for one year. And in case of married male committing adultery with a married female, they shall receive one hundred lashes and be stoned to death.

(12-04-2024, 11:56 PM)Hope Wrote:  Have you been to a church who use language other than English and Mandarin?
quran did not copy anything from bibles.!How many bibles and verses are there to copy . Thank God we have  only one book and 6000 verses.

(13-04-2024, 11:03 AM)Oyk Wrote:  You are now quoting from the Old Testament?  And if I say Paul.....no! he's a false prophet!  Don't listen to Paul!  

(13-04-2024, 11:08 AM)luncheonmeat Wrote:  Guess where this came from...

(13-04-2024, 10:52 AM)luncheonmeat Wrote:  No, you are , cherrypicking verses from the bible and taking them out of context as usual.





Fair play to both husband and wife. So what does the Koran say about how your mother and sister should be treated by their husbands?

(13-04-2024, 10:55 AM)Hope Wrote:  I am not a foreigner. But my father was.I was born here.

(13-04-2024, 11:08 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I never said St Paul was a false prophet. I don't even agree he was an apostle, much less a prophet. 

Yes, I quoted the Pentateuch, the book of Moses. Are you discarding the Pentateuch?

(13-04-2024, 11:09 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  From the Pentateuch. God's law.