[Hope]

Yes....
Muhammad dies for 3 things...women, food and perfumes!

Why didn’t Jesus like women even at his 30’s

[Hope]

You don’t care why u talk so much after reading this thread?
Jesus cares n He died for sinners n He is the only saviour 
Hallelujah praise the Lord!

Jesus named was used to market Roman religion to people like you.
Jesus didn’t die for anyone.

Again we don’t care if some one leave Islam.Do you want me to start a thread and show you how many churches have been changed to mosque?
There are many churches which were converted to clubs. Unfortunately I don’t have videos

[Hope]

Better don't shout huat ah huat ah in Marine Parade. Tiagong Terence Tan resigned from WP. Skali instead of Cai Shen Ye, Png Eng Huat cones out and ask, ani dua siah tso simi? Simi dai ji?

Unlike you,This is their indigenous religion.

[Hope]

And Jesus was a prophet! 

Do you know the difference between a messenger and Prophet?

Jesus was a messenger and Prophet

[pinkpanther]

St Peter was not a prophet. 

In Ephesians 5, I wanted PinkPanther to read this.

Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord.

Do you agree with that teaching? What about you PinkPanther?

The submission of the wife to the husband in Ephesians 5 does not allow the husband to be selfish or domineering. 

This is different from what is taught in the quran 

As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them ; but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).

[pinkpanther]

Why didn’t Jesus like women even at his 30’s

Hello..He died for our sins...he is God in the flesh.

[Hope]

Hello..He died for our sins...he is God in the flesh.

At what age he died!
At what age he circumcised?
Before died didn’t he have sexual feelings like hunger as a human?g

[Ali Imran]

The submission of the wife to the husband in Ephesians 5 does not allow the husband to be selfish or domineering. 

This is different from what is taught in the quran 

As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them ; but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).

Are you gonna answer the question I ask?

[pinkpanther]

Are you gonna answer the question I ask?

I already answered.
No...Ali... come straight to the point..
Don ask me if I agree and then lead me to another set of your qns.

[pinkpanther]

Yeah,Lord miraculously split your religion into hundreds of denominations 😂

Diversity is a good thing.

[Oyk]

Do you know the difference between a messenger and Prophet?

Jesus was a messenger and Prophet

You are entitled to create your own definitions.  By your definition, Jesus is erm only a prophet.  Yes, according to your "difference". 

[pinkpanther]

St Peter was not a prophet. 

In Ephesians 5, I wanted PinkPanther to read this.

Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord.

Do you agree with that teaching? What about you PinkPanther?

Women are like slaves! According to Islamic scholar Shabir Ally . This is sick to the core!

The Christians interpretation of Ephesians 5 is different from what you Muslims think.

[Oyk]

The submission of the wife to the husband in Ephesians 5 does not allow the husband to be selfish or domineering. 

This is different from what is taught in the quran 

As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them ; but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).

I read the last para (italicised by me) as follows:

1.  Your wife made you wear green hat

2.  Admonish her

3.  Refuse to share the bed with her, meaning that you refuse to piak her

4.  Beat the hell out of her...the (at last) in parenthesis is added by someone but I shall take it to me that (3) and (4) go together.

5.  Beat until she submits and cries tolong tolong! get on her knees and submit.

6.  Nao, you are satisfied, she has broken skin and bones, maybe the front teeth are missing. You don't bring this matter again.

And the whole community is watching, and approving your actions because your religion says this is what you do while he who must not be mentioned (B) who said he hates violence is silent about this because his mission, his very existence in SgTalk is only to mock Christianity.....

[Hope]

Diversity is a good thing.

If diversity is good thing. Why do you claim Jesus is the ONLY WAY?
Then you should respect every religion including folk religions,animism,atheism,polytheism

[Hope]

Women are like slaves! According to Islamic scholar Shabir Ally . This is sick to the core!

The Christians interpretation of Ephesians 5 is different from what you Muslims think.

Post the original video of his conversation, without cherry 🍒 picking

[Hope]

You are entitled to create your own definitions.  By your definition, Jesus is erm only a prophet.  Yes, according to your "difference". 

A prophet is a messenger as well.
Only a messenger cannot be a prophet

[pinkpanther]

Post the original video of his conversation, without cherry 🍒 picking

What cherry picking? Did you watch? This video was fresh from the oven!! If your religion treat women only as sex slaves with no rights....then why are you advocating it?

Do not practise Taqiyya hor!

[Oyk]

Diversity is a good thing.

Sunni, Shia, Ahmadiya, Whabbi, Salafi, Mohammedans, Sufi...Islam also has divisions.  And they kill each other.  I will not mock like Hope who said we need Jesus to UNITE the various Christian denominations, so I will not say Muslims need Muhammad to unite their sects.

Rather, I could say that Islam is a Christian denomination that has a different doctrine, just like the Roman Catholic Church has a different doctrine from the Protestant Church, and within Protestantism, there are further differences just like within Islam, they have different sects which Christians call denominations.  Sect or denomination, they mean the same thing.

If you have a totally different theology and a book which can stand on its own, you are a different religion. 

If you start with the Old Testament, then take from the Psalms and cherry-pick from other books of the Bible to build your own, then you are just doing what Christian churches do...some accept the Apocryphal, some reject it.... or if they accept certain books in the Bible, they have different understandings and emphasis, just like the way Ali is cherry-picking verses in the bible here and there to suit his narrative, then yours is not a separate religion but a denomination of Christianity.

The Quran cannot stand on its own, it needs the OT, Psalms, and its own version of the Gospel that rejects Paul, saying that he is a false prophet, and therefore Muslims are basically Christians who follow a denomination called Islam...that's all.

[pinkpanther]

If diversity is good thing. Why do you claim Jesus is the ONLY WAY?
Then you should respect every religion including folk religions,animism,atheism,polytheism

THe teachings and doctrines do not change.
Just different styles of worship, different taste.

[pinkpanther]

I read the last para (italicised by me) as follows:

1.  Your wife made you wear green hat

2.  Admonish her

3.  Refuse to share the bed with her, meaning that you refuse to piak her

4.  Beat the hell out of her...the (at last) in parenthesis is added by someone but I shall take it to me that (3) and (4) go together.

5.  Beat until she submits and cries tolong tolong! get on her knees and submit.

6.  Nao, you are satisfied, she has broken skin and bones, maybe the front teeth are missing.  You don't bring this matter again.

And the whole community is watching, and approving your actions because your religion says this is what you do while he who must not be mentioned (B) who said he hates violence is silent about this because his mission, his very existence in SgTalk is only to mock Christianity.....

5.  Beat until she submits and cries tolong tolong! get on her knees and submit.

Yes, if she cries tolong tolong..you need to stop...but if she cries "yamete" in Japanese.. 
You need to ask her to make clear of her intentions 

[Hope]

What cherry picking? Did you watch? This video was fresh from the oven!! If your religion treat women only as sex slaves with no rights....then why are you advocating it?

Do not practise Taqiyya hor!

I will look for original conversation and post it for you

[Hope]

THe teachings and doctrines do not change.
Just different styles of worship, different taste.

You all are jokers. just follow Islam or your forefathers religion.
Is it like Nasi lemak.? Malay nasi lemak, Chinese nasi lemak.The taste is different .

[Oyk]

A prophet is a messenger as well.
Only a messenger cannot be a prophet

If you start with a flawed set of definitions, you can dice around with words as easily as he who must not be mentioned (B) would say that Muhammad was a Bodhisattva.

If you take that line further and give him two minutes of fame, to *SHINE*, he will say that you can become a god along with many many other peepur who were/are going to be reborn as gods, countless! 

You will disagree, I know.

You will also disagree if I say, man cannot enter heaven to become god (B would say that is possible), while God can come to this world and take the form of a Man in Jesus. (B will also say that's possible...there are many gods in this world who were booted out of the god realm because they didn't behave themselves wor...)

So back to your messenger and prophet.  A prophet is a mouthpiece of God.  You play fast and loose with semantics, calling two peepur "prophets" of God, when they are not:  one is Muhammad and the other One...that's even blasphemous...He is our Lord Jesus.

In Christian-speak, we say that Peter is a disciple of Jesus.  We don't call him a messenger like you do in a semantical departure from your own set of definitions aka "twist and turn" in layman's terms (Singlish); we call him an Apostle.

[pinkpanther]

You all are jokers. just follow Islam or your forefathers religion.
Is it like Nasi lemak.? Malay nasi lemak, Chinese nasi lemak.The taste is different .

You think Malays started Islam? Malays choose Islam because it was introduced in the 15th century by traders from persia, Arabia and China!.....you must thanks china and its people for what you are today!

[Hope]

Sunni, Shia, Ahmadiya, Whabbi, Salafi, Mohammedans, Sufi...Islam also has divisions.  And they kill each other.  I will not mock like Hope who said we need Jesus to UNITE the various Christian denominations, so I will not say Muslims need Muhammad to unite their sects.

Rather, I could say that Islam is a Christian denomination that has a different doctrine, just like the Roman Catholic Church has a different doctrine from the Protestant Church, and within Protestantism, there are further differences just like within Islam, they have different sects which Christians call denominations.  Sect or denomination, they mean the same thing.

If you have a totally different theology and a book which can stand on its own, you are a different religion. 

If you start with the Old Testament, then take from the Psalms and cherry-pick from other books of the Bible to build your own, then you are just doing what Christian churches do...some accept the Apocryphal, some reject it.... or if they accept certain books in the Bible, they have different understandings and emphasis, just like the way Ali is cherry-picking verses in the bible here and there to suit his narrative, then yours is not a separate religion but a denomination of Christianity.

The Quran cannot stand on its own, it needs the OT, Psalms, and its own version of the Gospel that rejects Paul, saying that he is a false prophet, and therefore Muslims are basically Christians who follow a denomination called Islam...that's all.

Ahamadis are not Muslim.You know why? The founder of Ahamadi claimed he was the promised Messiah, Jesus.How can a Punjabi become a Jesus, who was an Israelites?
Mohamadan was a term  used to ref Islam by westerners in the past.I think it is not used anymore.
Sunni, Shia,Wahabi,Sufi,Salafi all including heretic ahamadi are using SAME and ONE Quran.
They don’t have another god except ALLAH.
They don’t have another Prophet other than Muhammad.
They have the same five pillars of Islam(Testimonial, prayer, fasting,Charity Pilgrimage).
All of them pray in Arabic.
All of them face toward Makkah when praying .

Do all of Christian denominations follow the same god and books?

Islam is not part of Christianity. Christianity was built on crucifixon,and trinity .Which Muslim follow crucifixion and trinity?Islam emphasis oneness of God. We don’t even pray to Muhammad or his mother.

[Hope]

You think Malays started Islam? Malays choose Islam because it was introduced in the 15th century by traders from persia, Arabia and China!.....you must thanks china and its people for what you are today!

I am not a Malay.
Remember this Hadith?

Tamim al-Dari reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “This matter will certainly reach every place touched by the night and day. Allah will not leave a house or residence but that Allah will cause this religion to enter it, by which the honorable will be honored, and the disgraceful will be disgraced. Allah will honor the honorable with Islam, and he will disgrace the disgraceful with unbelief.”

[Ali Imran]

I already answered.
No...Ali... come straight to the point..
Don ask me if I agree and then lead me to another set of your qns.

Yes, I asked if you agree to the teaching that the wife must submit to the husband like how she submits to God. But if you are not gonna answer that, it's okay.

But truly, I cannot imagine you would agree to that teaching.

[pinkpanther]

Yes, I asked if you agree to the teaching that the wife must submit to the husband like how she submits to God. But if you are not gonna answer that, it's okay.

But truly, I cannot imagine you would agree to that teaching.

Why do you care to know...there are parts of the bible that I do not necessary agreed to.
Do you think naughty children should be fed to wild animals....God does
Do you think sexually active unmarried women should be burned to death....God does.

[Ali Imran]

Why do you care to know...there are parts of the bible that I do not necessary agreed to.
Do you think naughty children should be fed to wild animals....God does
Do you think sexually active unmarried women should be burned to death....God does.

Thank you for the frank admission. You pick and choose which teaching to follow and which to discard. 

How do you know which teaching to follow and which to discard?

[pinkpanther]

I am not a Malay.
Remember this Hadith?

Tamim al-Dari reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “This matter will certainly reach every place touched by the night and day. Allah will not leave a house or residence but that Allah will cause this religion to enter it, by which the honorable will be honored, and the disgraceful will be disgraced. Allah will honor the honorable with Islam, and he will disgrace the disgraceful with unbelief.”

If you are not a malay from singapore.,why are you in discussion?..pls identify yourself.
I need to make sure I am not speaking to anyone link to Al Qaeda who might be recruiting people to commit jihab on the pretext of spreading Islam..