(17-06-2024, 11:49 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You know very well why I ignore your buddy. If he can promise me he will never again insult my mother or my family, I will stop ignoring him.

(17-06-2024, 02:41 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  There is no why like that! Jesus has a role to fulfill....unlike Muh lah! He has plenty of time for perfume, wine, slaves, women!  

When you are young Muh is your role model because he has all that you wish for...
But at 61yrs old...your priorities should be different now lah....haiya!

(17-06-2024, 02:56 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  A prophet who loves wine, perfumes, camels, women and yet still have time to reveal God's relevations.....what can I say abt him?  very good at multi tasking!

(17-06-2024, 02:50 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  ...

(17-06-2024, 03:52 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Why do you like to spread lies about our prophet? Why did that president of a Christian uni purposely spread lies about the Quran?

(17-06-2024, 03:54 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Why do you participate in objectifying women?

(17-06-2024, 03:46 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Why is it that in the ot we read of God's promise he will protect the promised Messiah but in the nt we read of God turning a deaf ear to the desperate plea of the promised Messiah? 

Yes, it is like that, an inner contradiction.

(17-06-2024, 03:32 PM)Oyk Wrote:  Hari Raya Haji and Hari Raya Puasa....

I had thought of sending Hope and him a HRH greeting but felt that it was against my belief to do so.

(17-06-2024, 09:01 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Send him some pics of the 72 bergins will do...

(17-06-2024, 11:07 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Here wishing the Moslem brothers Selamat Hari Raya...
Here is a song from my ex gf to you 

(17-06-2024, 05:50 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Where got contradiction? Jesus submits to his Father's will

[video=youtube Wrote:https://youtube.com/shorts/cPs8RvR3Tyk?si=rh_y1ilCAmKgRjCM[/video]Oyk pid='921095' dateline='1718677486']
This song is for Hope and _______________ 

The lyrics and graphics are meaningful...they should watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4wN9A9Hp9c

(18-06-2024, 12:19 PM)Hope Wrote:  https://youtu.be/h_WXGsTQkW0?si=PHqcmCCcJpYMI6jc

(18-06-2024, 11:22 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Its not about Jesus's submission to God's will. 

We read in the OT about God's promise to protect the promised Messiah from harm such that even a thorn would not be able to harm him. But you believe the promised Messiah was stripped, flogged, tortured, and eventually killed. That is the contradiction.

(18-06-2024, 11:22 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Its not about Jesus's submission to God's will. 

We read in the OT about God's promise to protect the promised Messiah from harm such that even a thorn would not be able to harm him. But you believe the promised Messiah was stripped, flogged, tortured, and eventually killed. That is the contradiction.

(18-06-2024, 12:50 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but rather, it was made to appear to them so. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. (157) Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise. (158)

— Quran 4:157–158[239]
Islamic traditions teach that Jesus ascended to Heaven without being put on the cross, but that God transformed another person to appear exactly like him and to be then crucified instead of him.

Is Allah a trickster?

(16-06-2024, 10:01 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I will listen to what the government says on this matter. I only wish they take a stand against Israel, for the sake of justice and nothing else, like South Africa. Without justice, there can never be peace.

Sadly, there is nothing the world can do. Even if the ICJ rules against Israel, the law cannot be enforced on Israel. They will just show the finger to the world and carry on doing what they want to do. In today's world, might is right.


We need a hero.

(18-06-2024, 01:07 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I do  not subscribe to the view of deceiving people into believing Jesus was crucified, for God is not a man that he should trick. And Jesus was no coward that he should want someone else to die for him.

 Several prophets of God who came before Jesus had been killed horribly too, but the only difference between the, and the Lord Jesus is that he's able to take back his life after he has given it up.

 The story made up by Muhammad is nothing more than a ruse to try and discredit the most essential part of a faith that began almost 600years before Islam, which is the death, resurrection, and ascension of Christ.

Lies are permissible in Islam to obtain an objective