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HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - Coyote - 08-09-2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwguYcnzsfU

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/east-asia/hong-kong-tourism-mainland-chinese-spending-changes-post-pandemic-4574576


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - sgbuffett - 08-09-2024

People will observe how they use these laws first.

I don't think it's permanent damage unless they  use it in a way that scares people off.
Thailand has some really undemocratic laws like lese majestic

If yr in yr out people come and go from HK without incident...things will return to normal.

But if they go and catch someone for being a spy for posting he does not like Xi on the Internet...then it's downhill all the way.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A8se-majest%C3%A9_in_Thailand


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - WhatDoYouThink! - 08-09-2024

They asked for it


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - sgbuffett - 08-09-2024

(08-09-2024, 08:47 PM)WhatDoYouThink! Wrote:  They asked for it

If they were asked they would not want to be part of China.


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - moonrab - 08-09-2024

HK must not keep on thinking about their past but move on forward to a new era.
Tourism alone will not be sufficient to upgrade their economy. 

They should reinvent the approach of economy growth with new industry and technology.


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - WhatDoYouThink! - 08-09-2024

(08-09-2024, 08:56 PM)sgbuffett Wrote:  If they were asked they would not want to be part of China.

They shd leave Hk which is part of china


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - watchfirst9 - 08-09-2024

(08-09-2024, 08:56 PM)sgbuffett Wrote:  If they were asked they would not want to be part of China.

They can leave what, 
the land not the people is part of Chn.

Anyway the dip start from social incident in 2019 follow by covid
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/364044296/figure/fig3/AS:11431281275511463@1725425619201/The-number-of-inbound-tourism-arrivals-into-Hong-Kong-1997-2019-Data-source-Hong-Kong.tif

and numbers after reopen from 2022 is upward trend
https://partnernet.hktb.com/filemanager/LatestStatistics/461/Tourism_Statistics_12_2023.pdf
https://partnernet.hktb.com/filemanager/LatestStatistics/601/Tourism_Statistics_07_2024.pdf

Foreign tourists likely will reach 2019 figure if they can continue first 7 months growth. 
As Mainland tourists unlikely to go back because they feel despised.


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - Blasterlord2 - 08-09-2024

(08-09-2024, 08:56 PM)sgbuffett Wrote:  If they were asked they would not want to be part of China.

Yes yes, they want to continue to be a colony of Britain. But why? It's not as though they have any more rights under the British. It's simply because years of brainwashing led them to believe that the angmohs are better, and that even being dogs is something to be proud of.


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - lylcnn - 08-09-2024

(08-09-2024, 09:22 PM)watchfirst9 Wrote:  They can leave what, 
the land not the people is part of Chn.

Anyway the dip start from social incident in 2019 follow by covid
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/364044296/figure/fig3/AS:11431281275511463@1725425619201/The-number-of-inbound-tourism-arrivals-into-Hong-Kong-1997-2019-Data-source-Hong-Kong.tif

and numbers after reopen from 2022 is upward trend
https://partnernet.hktb.com/filemanager/LatestStatistics/461/Tourism_Statistics_12_2023.pdf
https://partnernet.hktb.com/filemanager/LatestStatistics/601/Tourism_Statistics_07_2024.pdf

Foreign tourists likely will reach 2019 figure if they can continue first 7 months growth. 
As Mainland tourists unlikely to go back because they feel despised.

Hard truth for the HKies...But many would argue HKG is a mere shadow of its old self now........


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - Coyote - 09-09-2024

(08-09-2024, 09:55 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote:  Yes yes, they want to continue to be a colony of Britain. But why? It's not as though they have any more rights under the British. It's simply because years of brainwashing led them to believe that the angmohs are better, and that even being dogs is something to be proud of.

Were journalists, politicians, online critics arrested when HK were under the British? If HK is more free now, why are foreigners and HKers leaving HK? Were HKers forced to study British security law before 1997?


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - Coyote - 09-09-2024

(08-09-2024, 09:00 PM)moonrab Wrote:  HK must not keep on thinking about their past but move on forward to a new era.
Tourism alone will not be sufficient to upgrade their economy. 

They should reinvent the approach of economy growth with new industry and technology.

HK is as dead as Beijing right now. There is no turning back for HK. Nothing can be done until the CCP collapses.


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - cityhantam - 09-09-2024

(08-09-2024, 08:31 PM)Coyote Wrote:  htt


Stop wasting time!


Assmerica can't even get their people back from space station! 


$90 billion spent on disinformation about China, what did the US people get?
.

https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/china-news/21091-a-500-million-dollar-business-america-s-state-sponsored-anti-china-propaganda.html

A 500-million-dollar business! America's state-sponsored anti-China propaganda
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Huat ah, Assmerica!  Clapping Clapping 
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http://eng.chinamil.com.cn/OPINIONS_209196/Opinions_209197/10030514.html

US goes further to spend $300 million annually smearing China

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RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - Niubee - 09-09-2024

(09-09-2024, 10:38 AM)Coyote Wrote:  Were journalists, politicians, online critics arrested when HK were under the British? If HK is more free now, why are foreigners and HKers leaving HK? Were HKers forced to study British security law before 1997?

U are forever living the past. Move forward and stop licking the brit


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - Blasterlord2 - 09-09-2024

(09-09-2024, 10:38 AM)Coyote Wrote:  Were journalists, politicians, online critics arrested when HK were under the British? If HK is more free now, why are foreigners and HKers leaving HK? Were HKers forced to study British security law before 1997?

When HK is back to China rule, the journalists etc were free to express their views until such a point in time where they are instigating riots. And you think that this is right?

The HKers brought it upon themselves for their freedom to be taken away since they've been proven that they don't deserve to have it.


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - talky - 09-09-2024

no point to visit hk when their glory of bustling economy is gone
there is no more buzz as what lky said


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - Blasterlord2 - 09-09-2024

We have HKers doing these stupid things, yet the Westerners are telling China to let them be, give them freedom of speech? The West is a joke.

https://www.scmp.com/yp/discover/news/hong-kong/article/3203263/hong-kong-teen-given-3-year-prison-sentence-parodying-national-anthem-and-mocking-flag-online


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - WhatDoYouThink! - 09-09-2024

自废武功,自甘堕落 let it be

China shd do more for hainan island. Air quality is superb, zero pollution, it’s such a lovely place


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - sgbuffett - 09-09-2024

(08-09-2024, 09:55 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote:  Yes yes, they want to continue to be a colony of Britain. But why? It's not as though they have any more rights under the British. It's simply because years of brainwashing led them to believe that the angmohs are better, and that even being dogs is something to be proud of.

The west and China can both blast their proppaganda  in HK.
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The HK people have the right to say what they want.


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - sgbuffett - 09-09-2024

(09-09-2024, 12:04 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote:  We have HKers doing these stupid things, yet the Westerners are telling China to let them be, give them freedom of speech? The West is a joke.

https://www.scmp.com/yp/discover/news/hong-kong/article/3203263/hong-kong-teen-given-3-year-prison-sentence-parodying-national-anthem-and-mocking-flag-online

There is a kind of stupidity to argue to take away everyone's  freedom because some people did some stupid things.
Itbjs kore an excuse used by authoritarian govts to curtail the freedom of the citizens.

The CCP itself made grave errors such as cultural revolution and great leap forward( backwards)  ...what the teen did is nothing but mischief.. the CCP caused real suffering and should rightly subject itself to not just the power of the people but proportionate punishment for what it has done.

The CCP is only good at going after others and does not subject itself to scrutiny.


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - WhatDoYouThink! - 09-09-2024

Leave it to hk and china to solve their problems

Meanwhile hv u found any job yet?


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - Blasterlord2 - 09-09-2024

(09-09-2024, 03:28 PM)sgbuffett Wrote:  There is a kind of stupidity to argue to take away everyone's  freedom because some people did some stupid things.
Itbjs kore an excuse used by authoritarian govts to curtail the freedom of the citizens.

The CCP itself made grave errors such as cultural revolution and great leap forward( backwards)  ...what the teen did is nothing but mischief.. the CCP caused real suffering and should rightly subject itself to not just the power of the people but proportionate punishment for what it has done.

The CCP is only good at going after others and does not subject itself to scrutiny.

That's a fact of life. When some people did not toe the line, they spoil things for everyone. Isn't that what's happening in other countries too? And for what the teen did, why dun you try to do the same in Spore and see what will happen to you?

And trust me, the CCP knows that the cultural revolution is wrong. They have even published openly that it is damaging.

https://www.gov.cn/18da/content_2247076.htm


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - Blasterlord2 - 09-09-2024

(09-09-2024, 02:35 PM)sgbuffett Wrote:  The west and China can both blast their proppaganda  in HK.
[Image: vRkWATK.jpeg]

The HK people have the right to say what they want.

It's not even just "say". They went ahead with riots. You're saying that the riots are right?


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - WhatDoYouThink! - 09-09-2024

So you try to speak up for the freedom of hongkees? But they already hv more freedom than you leh


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - watchfirst9 - 09-09-2024

(09-09-2024, 03:28 PM)sgbuffett Wrote:  There is a kind of stupidity to argue to take away everyone's  freedom because some people did some stupid things.
Itbjs kore an excuse used by authoritarian govts to curtail the freedom of the citizens.

The CCP itself made grave errors such as cultural revolution and great leap forward( backwards)  ...what the teen did is nothing but mischief.. the CCP caused real suffering and should rightly subject itself to not just the power of the people but proportionate punishment for what it has done.

The CCP is only good at going after others and does not subject itself to scrutiny.


What freedom are you talking about, 
burn the flag?
burn people with opp view?
Storm state building , destroy state properties?
All these if done in other countries will land in jail. No?
So far only the ringleaders are punished, not fair?

The HK social unrest in 2019 
impact in HK GDP can match covid impact
https://www.aoba.com.hk/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/GDP.png


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - Coyote - 09-09-2024

(09-09-2024, 08:53 PM)watchfirst9 Wrote:  What freedom are you talking about, 
burn the flag?
burn people with opp view?
Storm state building , destroy state properties?
All these if done in other countries will land in jail. No?
So far only the ringleaders are punished, not fair?

The HK social unrest in 2019 
impact in HK GDP can match covid impact
https://www.aoba.com.hk/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/GDP.png

What about 721 at Yuen Long station when CCP supporters beat up random passengers and pregnant women? 831 when popo randomly beat up passengers without making arrests? 2019 did not deter foreigners from continue doing business in HK.

What about 8964 Tiananmen square massacre when tanks and soldiers rolled in to massacre unarmed peaceful protesters? Are you ok with it? Is this the democracy China is preaching to the world?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RXzfT1aMNU


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - Coyote - 09-09-2024

(09-09-2024, 10:53 AM)Blasterlord2 Wrote:  When HK is back to China rule, the journalists etc were free to express their views until such a point in time where they are instigating riots. And you think that this is right?

The HKers brought it upon themselves for their freedom to be taken away since they've been proven that they don't deserve to have it.

Which part of the articles were they publishing which instigate the riots? Is publishing real news also instigating riots? Do western countries ban news media?


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - Coyote - 09-09-2024

(09-09-2024, 12:04 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote:  We have HKers doing these stupid things, yet the Westerners are telling China to let them be, give them freedom of speech? The West is a joke.

https://www.scmp.com/yp/discover/news/hong-kong/article/3203263/hong-kong-teen-given-3-year-prison-sentence-parodying-national-anthem-and-mocking-flag-online

Do countries like the US and UK jail people for mocking the national anthem and the flag? Only glassheart totalitarian CCP does such things.


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - Coyote - 09-09-2024

https://stephenroachauthor.com/hong-kong-is-over-an-audacious-wake-up-call/


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - Blasterlord2 - 09-09-2024

(09-09-2024, 10:50 PM)Coyote Wrote:  Which part of the articles were they publishing which instigate the riots? Is publishing real news also instigating riots? Do western countries ban news media?

You are a farking retard. I'm not about to spoonfeed you.


RE: HK struggles to attract visitors after national security law and Article 23 - Coyote - 09-09-2024

HK judges left HK after the rule of law ends in HK

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/two-british-judges-quit-hong-kongs-top-court