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Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - Sentinel - 13-06-2023

If Chinese still vote for Tharma, then don't complain next time that you got an Indian President hor

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - winbig - 13-06-2023

(13-06-2023, 06:27 AM)Sentinel Wrote: If Chinese still vote for Tharma, then don't complain next time that you got an Indian President hor

U want to lim kopi?

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - Sentinel - 13-06-2023

(13-06-2023, 06:39 AM)winbig Wrote: U want to lim kopi?

This is statistics, demographics, stewpig!

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - winbig - 13-06-2023

(13-06-2023, 06:59 AM)Sentinel Wrote: This is statistics, demographics, stewpig!

Don't play with words. Soon u will receive lim kopi invitation. Laughing

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - K88 shu shu - 13-06-2023

TS step on the land mine ?

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - Sharexchange - 13-06-2023

Reported to authority

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - ArielCasper - 13-06-2023

(13-06-2023, 06:27 AM)Sentinel Wrote: If Chinese still vote for Tharma, then don't complain next time that you got an Indian President hor

Then u are playing into the cards of OYK. The talk abt Han race Vs the other races.

In fact, isn't everyone sinkie? Why still want to divide us by race?

I am also against hdb racial quota, EP race rotation. A sinkie is just a sinkie and not Chinese, Malay or Indian.

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - sgbuffett - 13-06-2023

Issue is not race
..don't be racist.

Issue is he is not independent

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - Huliwang - 13-06-2023

(13-06-2023, 08:04 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: Issue is not race
..don't be racist.

Issue is he is not independent

You got reliable info that he is not independent? Show article or link to URL or QR code for my vote decision making? Thinking

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - Dan - 13-06-2023

Election department should reveal the result by racial demographic after the election

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - Oyk - 13-06-2023

(13-06-2023, 07:58 AM)ArielCasper Wrote: Then u are playing into the cards of OYK. The talk abt Han race Vs the other races.

In fact, isn't everyone sinkie? Why still want to divide us by race?

I am also against hdb racial quota, EP race rotation. A sinkie is just a sinkie and not Chinese, Malay or Indian.

We the citizens of Singapore pledge ourselves as one united people regardless of race, language or religion...

This is an ongoing aspiration which I dare say will never be achieved unanimously. There will be racist generation after generation just like there will always be motorists who will flout traffic rules. In both cases, we put in place laws to keep these under control so everyone can live more safely and peacefully.

Without traffic laws or in this case ISA, racial riots will break out frequently and we shan't be seeing the progress we've made.

Right, we are not Chinese. That's a nationality. Our race is Han. Race is stated in our NRIC. It's good to remove that because of the confusion the word Chinese is causing. It makes many peepur think "We the Chinese are one united people regardless of nationality..." and that does nothing good for national unity. It tears us apart along racial lines like what is happening in Malaysia.

So the government is right after all.

1. GRC is necessary
2. The presidency must be reserved for various races by rotation
3. Singapore is not ready for a minority raced PM.

Sorry hor, no where did I talk about Han race vs other races. Stop lying. Rolleyes

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - Oyk - 13-06-2023

(13-06-2023, 06:27 AM)Sentinel Wrote: If Chinese still vote for Tharma, then don't complain next time that you got an Indian President hor

Tharman is not an Indian. He is a Singaporean.

Indian means citizen of India.

Indian is not a race, it's a nationality.

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - Dan - 13-06-2023

Good morning Schroder how are you?

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - Dan - 13-06-2023

I Am Chinese, and I Am Not Chinese.

Yes, it is possible for you to say that. And this sentence can have different meanings, depending on context.

First, the English word Chinese can refer to different ideas:

People who are ethnically Chinese (华人). These include a majority of the people in the People’s Republic of China (PRC), in Taiwan, and in places like Hong Kong, Macau, and Singapore. People who are ethnically Chinese can be citizens of many other countries, such as Australia, Canada, Peru, or the United States.
People who are citizens of China (中国人). When not otherwise specified, the word Chinese used in an administrative-political sense usually refers to citizens of the PRC. Now you get the idea: an individual can be ethnically Chinese but does not have Chinese citizenship, and there are citizens of the PRC who are not necessarily ethnically Chinese.

Language. There are many Chinese dialects spoken. The most popular one, which is the official language of the PRC, is called Putonghua (普通话), sometimes also called Mandarin. Mandarin spoken in Mainland China is slightly different than that used in Taiwan, where it is called Guoyu (國語). The written form is also different. Taiwan uses Traditional characters, and the PRC uses Simplified characters.
Things and qualities pertaining to the Chinese culture. Example: the Chinese idea of filial piety, the Chinese musical instrument erhu, Chinese food.
Things and qualities pertaining to people who are ethnically Chinese. Example: Chinese ambivalence to alleged racism associated with Covid-19.
Things and qualities pertaining to the PRC. Example: Chinese Community Party, Chinese export numbers, Chinese high-speed train system
.
Now you see, the sentence “I am Chinese, and I am not Chinese” can mean that I am ethnically Chinese, and I am not a citizen of the PRC. It can also mean the opposite, that I am a citizen of the PRC but not ethnically Chinese. It can also mean that I am ethnically Chinese, but culturally I am not. And you can probably think of many other possibilities.

by A. Ka Tat Tsang, Professor of Social Work, University of Toronto

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - Oyk - 13-06-2023

(13-06-2023, 09:03 AM)Oyk Wrote: We the citizens of Singapore pledge ourselves as one united people regardless of race, language or religion...

This is an ongoing aspiration which I dare say will never be achieved unanimously. There will be racist generation after generation just like there will always be motorists who will flout traffic rules. In both cases, we put in place laws to keep these under control so everyone can live more safely and peacefully.

Without traffic laws or in this case ISA, racial riots will break out frequently and we shan't be seeing the progress we've made.

Right, we are not Chinese. That's a nationality. Our race is Han. Race is stated in our NRIC. It's good to remove that because of the confusion the word Chinese is causing. It makes many peepur think "We the Chinese are one united people regardless of nationality..." and that does nothing good for national unity. It tears us apart along racial lines like what is happening in Malaysia.

So the government is right after all.

1. GRC is necessary
2. The presidency must be reserved for various races by rotation
3. Singapore is not ready for a minority raced PM.

Sorry hor, no where did I talk about Han race vs other races. Stop lying.

What is there to argue over?

It's a fact that some/many people will vote along racial lines. There is nothing anybody can do about it.

Statistics? Based on sheer numbers, GG will already have the advantage.

If Tharman wins despite this it shows that we have matured as a society. I don't think the boomers will change and my words "matured as a society" do not refer to them. I am talking about the yoomerd and zoomers who are taking over this country who will form the fabric of Singaporan society. If Tharman wins it means they are inching closer to the aspiration in our Pledge..

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - Oyk - 13-06-2023

(13-06-2023, 09:15 AM)Dan Wrote: I Am Chinese, and I Am Not Chinese.

Yes, it is possible for you to say that. And this sentence can have different meanings, depending on context.

First, the English word Chinese can refer to different ideas:

People who are ethnically Chinese (华人). These include a majority of the people in the People’s Republic of China (PRC), in Taiwan, and in places like Hong Kong, Macau, and Singapore. People who are ethnically Chinese can be citizens of many other countries, such as Australia, Canada, Peru, or the United States.
People who are citizens of China (中国人). When not otherwise specified, the word Chinese used in an administrative-political sense usually refers to citizens of the PRC. Now you get the idea: an individual can be ethnically Chinese but does not have Chinese citizenship, and there are citizens of the PRC who are not necessarily ethnically Chinese.

Language. There are many Chinese dialects spoken. The most popular one, which is the official language of the PRC, is called Putonghua (普通话), sometimes also called Mandarin. Mandarin spoken in Mainland China is slightly different than that used in Taiwan, where it is called Guoyu (國語). The written form is also different. Taiwan uses Traditional characters, and the PRC uses Simplified characters.
Things and qualities pertaining to the Chinese culture. Example: the Chinese idea of filial piety, the Chinese musical instrument erhu, Chinese food.
Things and qualities pertaining to people who are ethnically Chinese. Example: Chinese ambivalence to alleged racism associated with Covid-19.
Things and qualities pertaining to the PRC. Example: Chinese Community Party, Chinese export numbers, Chinese high-speed train system
.
Now you see, the sentence “I am Chinese, and I am not Chinese” can mean that I am ethnically Chinese, and I am not a citizen of the PRC. It can also mean the opposite, that I am a citizen of the PRC but not ethnically Chinese. It can also mean that I am ethnically Chinese, but culturally I am not. And you can probably think of many other possibilities.

by A. Ka Tat Tsang, Professor of Social Work, University of Toronto

Why use the word Chinese to refer to our race and cause so much confusion? Just say Han and all confusions end.

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - Dan - 13-06-2023

(13-06-2023, 09:23 AM)Oyk Wrote: Why use the word Chinese to refer to our race and cause so much confusion? Just say Han and all confusions end.

You are the only one confused who your ancestors were

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - klat - 13-06-2023

If any private citizen can pass through the very, very, very stringent criteria set by the Government, then that private citizen must be very good and very strong candidate for being elected as President.

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - Oyk - 13-06-2023

(13-06-2023, 09:27 AM)Dan Wrote: You are the only one confused who your ancestors were

My ancestors were Chinese because they were citizens of China. Race wise they were Hans.

I am a Singaporean because I am born here.

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - Oyk - 13-06-2023

(13-06-2023, 09:31 AM)klat Wrote: If any private citizen can pass through the very, very, very stringent criteria set by the Government, then that private citizen must be very good and very strong candidate for being elected as President.

GG is one such person who is worth considering.

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - CHAOS - 13-06-2023

(13-06-2023, 09:38 AM)Oyk Wrote: My ancestors were Chinese because they were citizens of China. Race wise they were Hans.

I am a Singaporean because I am born here.

Cannot convince you, confuse you

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RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - Migrant - 13-06-2023

Aiya, just say I am a Singaporean chinese.

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - singlon - 13-06-2023

it does not matter why?
first salvo: I want to be an elected president
2nd ...IAM a Morrocan Ambassador from sinkaPoo
meaning another HarbanSingh
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RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - forum456 - 13-06-2023

he will be disqualified because his company is less than $500 millions.

previous 2 malay candidates against Halimah were disqualified on this requirement.

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - Oyk - 13-06-2023

(13-06-2023, 09:44 AM)CHAOS Wrote: Cannot convince you, confuse you

You are confused? Then stop calling yourself Chinese which is so ambiguous.

If you are Malaysian.... yes that's what you are.... then just say you are a Han Malaysian.

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - Dan - 13-06-2023

(13-06-2023, 09:38 AM)Oyk Wrote: My ancestors were Chinese because they were citizens of China. Race wise they were Hans.

I am a Singaporean because I am born here.

"People who are ethnically Chinese (华人). These include a majority of the people in the People’s Republic of China (PRC), in Taiwan, and in places like Hong Kong, Macau, and Singapore. People who are ethnically Chinese can be citizens of many other countries, such as Australia, Canada, Peru, or the United States."

Singaporean is your citizenship but your root is Chinese

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - singlon - 13-06-2023

remember all work for sotong Klaus SchwabED
and tioTOXed

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - Oyk - 13-06-2023

(13-06-2023, 09:50 AM)Dan Wrote: "People who are ethnically Chinese (华人). These include a majority of the people in the People’s Republic of China (PRC), in Taiwan, and in places like Hong Kong, Macau, and Singapore. People who are ethnically Chinese can be citizens of many other countries, such as Australia, Canada, Peru, or the United States."

Singaporean is your citizenship but your root is Chinese

If you insist on translating 华人as Chinese people, then you are propagating the confusion.

If that's the case, no one who is not a citizen of China is a 华人. So I am a 汉人 and a Singaporean.

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - Lukongsimi - 13-06-2023

I know me is tern lung Singaporean

RE: Let's race it, Indians and Malays will vote Tharma - RichDad - 13-06-2023

(13-06-2023, 08:09 AM)Huliwang Wrote: You got reliable info that he is not independent? Show article or link to URL or QR code for my vote decision making?

Hard to prove that he will not be independent if elected except to look at his performance as a minister.

But then we dont know what goes on in cabinet meetings, did he dare go against pinky or other ministers?

Can he be another OTC? We dont know for sure but can make a guess... he says is a defender, not a striker, in his own words. Seems like a yes-man to me. You decide.

OTC was vocal and dare to take independent actions even against the cabinet.. he said so himself.

From what we can observe so far, tharman is unlikely to be independent or dare to block the pap.

But what to do? It is almost confirmed it will be President Tharmanitor.