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1. The role of PE is created to provide a check and balance on the govt of the day.
2. To circumvent this the ruling party will try to insert it's own member to reduce the check and balance on itself.
3. Each PE, PAP member resigns to become the Elected President. Previously was Halimah, this time Tharman.
4. Voting for the PAP candidate, defeats the purpose of having an elected President as it reduces the check and balance on the PAP govt.
5! This is not a pro PAP or anti PAP view but a pro Singapore view. Because it is not good for Singapore if check and balance safeguarda are reduced in Singapore.
6. We cannot let it continue as it undermines the effectiveness of the elected president. It is not right.
7. The last election we could not do anything as no other person was qualified to run.
8. This time, it is your responsibility to vote wisely.
I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.
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What do you want the next 6 years to be changes or status quo?
I want changes..
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(31-08-2023, 05:41 AM)Scythian Wrote: .
What do you want the next 6 years to be changes or status quo?
I want changes..
Bringing Singapore down is your main agenda, of course u want changes lah.
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(31-08-2023, 01:12 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: 1. The role of PE is created to provide a check and balance on the govt of the day.
2. To circumvent this the ruling party will try to insert it's own member to reduce the check and balance on itself.
3. Each PE, PAP member resigns to become the Elected President. Previously was Halimah, this time Tharman.
4. Voting for the PAP candidate, defeats the purpose of having an elected President as it reduces the check and balance on the PAP govt.
5! This is not a pro PAP or anti PAP view but a pro Singapore view. Because it is not good for Singapore if check and balance safeguarda are reduced in Singapore.
6. We cannot let it continue as it undermines the effectiveness of the elected president. It is not right.
7. The last election we could not do anything as no other person was qualified to run.
8. This time, it is your responsibility to vote wisely.
Tharman is perceived as pro pap while TKL is at the other end where he is supported by extremist opposition losers. NKS is somewhere in the middle.
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(31-08-2023, 06:54 AM)winbig Wrote: Tharman is perceived as pro pap while TKL is at the other end where he is supported by extremist opposition losers. NKS is somewhere in the middle.
When we talk about independence it is independence from the ruling party because the president has to check and balance the govt of the day. In the 2011 presidential election more than 60% of voters voted for TJS and TCB who were from opposition but they are still considered independent from the PAP govt.
The media has distorted the ,"independce" issue to say that president has to be independent of everything. It is an absurd characterisation.
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(31-08-2023, 06:54 AM)winbig Wrote: Tharman is perceived as pro pap while TKL is at the other end where he is supported by extremist opposition losers. NKS is somewhere in the middle.
Just think of white hair, black hair and no hair!
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(31-08-2023, 07:13 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: When we talk about independence it is independence from the ruling party because the president has to check and balance the govt of the day. In the 2011 presidential election more than 60% of voters voted for TJS and TCB who were from opposition but they are still considered independent from the PAP govt.
The media has distorted the ,"independce" issue to say that president has to be independent of everything. It is an absurd characterisation.
Anyone who speak bad about govt will be deemed independent from govt. That's the definition by extremist opposition lah. Extremist opposition only have the sole motive of creating problems for govt so as to bring it down and replace the govt. This is certainly not what most Singaporeans want. That's why the extremist opposition failed miserably at every election. TKL belonged to the extremist opposition camp. That's why u see WP never endorse him.
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(31-08-2023, 05:03 PM)Ola Wrote: Wah seh!
My reason is- I have not seen Tharman fighting for average citizens
But look at Tan KL:
![[Image: TKL-10-Reasons-to-vote-for-Him.png]](https://i.ibb.co/6B0cXWB/TKL-10-Reasons-to-vote-for-Him.png)
I believed TKL is a promising person. He wil definitely makes a good President if elected. Wil continue the fine works of former Honourable Ong Teng Cheong.
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(31-08-2023, 06:51 AM)winbig Wrote: Bringing Singapore down is your main agenda, of course u want changes lah. 
Only those that does not hv concerns of our future young generations wil only brings Singapore down.
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(31-08-2023, 01:12 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: 1. The role of PE is created to provide a check and balance on the govt of the day.
2. To circumvent this the ruling party will try to insert it's own member to reduce the check and balance on itself.
3. Each PE, PAP member resigns to become the Elected President. Previously was Halimah, this time Tharman.
4. Voting for the PAP candidate, defeats the purpose of having an elected President as it reduces the check and balance on the PAP govt.
5! This is not a pro PAP or anti PAP view but a pro Singapore view. Because it is not good for Singapore if check and balance safeguarda are reduced in Singapore.
6. We cannot let it continue as it undermines the effectiveness of the elected president. It is not right.
7. The last election we could not do anything as no other person was qualified to run.
8. This time, it is your responsibility to vote wisely.
Who will you vote for tomorrow leh?
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Are we allowed to talk about such shenanigans today?
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(31-08-2023, 07:28 AM)winbig Wrote: Anyone who speak bad about govt will be deemed independent from govt. That's the definition by extremist opposition lah. Extremist opposition only have the sole motive of creating problems for govt so as to bring it down and replace the govt. This is certainly not what most Singaporeans want. That's why the extremist opposition failed miserably at every election. TKL belonged to the extremist opposition camp. That's why u see WP never endorse him.
Flip yr point around. Anyone who speak good about govt will be deem dependent on govt. That is the inverse of extremist opposition.
The inverse sole motive is not to create problem for govt so that the govt can rule forever. That is certainly not what Singaporean want. That is why the inverse will fail miserably in coming elections, if not this one.
1. I have served the nation in a combat unit for 2.5 + 10 years. I had fulfilled my duty as a citizen, but has the country do it's part for me?
2. I don't know where the threat of CCP is, but I know the threat of CECA is already at my doorsteps
3. I had been called a CCP, JHK, Pinoy, but they never called me a CECA..
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The elected president is meant to provide an additional layer of check on the ruling govt/party.
The PAP circumvebts this by getting one of its member to resign and become the next president.
This is not right.
We should stop this way of doing things because it is wrong and bad for Singapore
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(31-08-2023, 07:28 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: You vote for who leh? 
I vote for you lah!
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(31-08-2023, 07:32 PM)p1acebo Wrote: I vote for you lah! 
Then I vote for you lah!
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Then remember not to vote estab stooges pineapple & handjob can liao.
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(31-08-2023, 06:28 PM)p1acebo Wrote: Are we allowed to talk about such shenanigans today? 
TKL
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Nice titties
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The most important point is he like Pretty Girls like me
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let it refresh your responsibility
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Better vote all 3 to be on the safe side.🤔
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Given sgbutt's track record in stock calls, he will probably vote for Tharman or NKS
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