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BKK or Thailand far value for money than Penang
visa cheaper and easier to get
u go see how run down most Penang mall is

Aiyah Thailand also must see where u go lah. Most area are worst than JB. And driving there is really a nightmare. In Phuket u can drive thru even if the traffic lights are RED!

Talking about roads....non can compare to Langkawi main roads.