19-12-2023, 02:07 PM
(19-12-2023, 12:39 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote: If God is perfect, and also loves all creatures, why were carnivores created?
We have three premises here:
1. God is omnipotent
2. God loves all creatures
a. God would not want creatures to experience pain
3. Carnivores exist
If 3 is true- and it can’t really be disputed- one of the other premises must be wrong.
At the very least, 2a must be wrong. Then, God loves all creatures, but doesn’t consider predators killing prey to be a bad thing. He could redesign the animal kingdom so that animals don’t prey on each other, but surely the gift of life is enough. Who cares if they experience pain?
The next option is that 2 is entirely wrong, and God couldn’t care less about what happens on Earth. Maybe he’s just nicer to humans because we’re made in his image, or maybe we’re just deluded into thinking we’re special. Either way, it means that God certainly isn’t omnibenevolent.
If you don’t like the idea that God is kind of an asshole and lets suffering in the animal kingdom happen whilst being able to stop it, that only really leaves the idea that premise 1 is wrong. God does love all animals, and would stop their suffering if he could, but he can’t! This doesn’t make much sense, though, because of course he created everything as described in Genesis.
So, in summary: for carnivores to exist, God must either not care about the suffering of their prey or be powerless to change the world for the better.
Or, of course, the much easier conclusion is that God doesn’t exist and the entire animal kingdom is the result of competing organisms evolving over hundreds of millions of years.
https://www.quora.com/If-God-is-perfect-...1395?ch=10&oid=26311395&share=0c006aa9&srid=R7sr&target_type=answer
You post with the innocence of a five-year-old kiddo.
In answer to your earlier childish question, why do animals have emotions? Well, God did have another group of creation that don't have emotions, as you know it: plants. And fruit bearing plants which fruits were meant for our food.
Animals were not meant to be robots, emotionless. To give Adam one that has no emotion would not be good for companionship. Would you like to keep a dog at home that has no emotions at all?
After the Fall, creation went upside down. Yes, a cow can cry, so can a dog. This is the consequence of SIN.
God does not enjoy seeing His creation in pain. He is not a sadist. The ultimate pain of eternal separation between Him and Us had been borne by Christ on the Cross. Christ was not afraid of the physical pain of hanging on a Cross by nails. His agony and anguish was that Sin....the eternal separation between God and Man due to SIN, and his death at Calvary was all about that.
He was paying the penalty for SIN, and that was the pain. Upon the payment for the Sin, Man was thus redeemed.
God through Christ had demonstrated to us to fear not when He healed the leper, restored vision to the blind man, and ultimately, raised Lazarus from the dead. The very things we fear, including DEATH, are unnecessary when God is with us. These are not to be feared.
God through Christ has opened the Way for us to be reconciled with Him. The choice to accept or reject it is entirely up to you. If you want to continue to mock, that's your decision. You will answer to Him, you don't need to answer to me and nobody is going to judge you, but God will...
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Trying so hard to find my Archilles Point wor. Hehe
