Why I dont believe ín Christianity

(19-12-2023, 12:39 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote:  If God is perfect, and also loves all creatures, why were carnivores created?

We have three premises here:

1. God is omnipotent
2. God loves all creatures
    a. God would not want creatures to experience pain
3. Carnivores exist
If 3 is true- and it can’t really be disputed- one of the other premises must be wrong.

At the very least, 2a must be wrong. Then, God loves all creatures, but doesn’t consider predators killing prey to be a bad thing. He could redesign the animal kingdom so that animals don’t prey on each other, but surely the gift of life is enough. Who cares if they experience pain?

The next option is that 2 is entirely wrong, and God couldn’t care less about what happens on Earth. Maybe he’s just nicer to humans because we’re made in his image, or maybe we’re just deluded into thinking we’re special. Either way, it means that God certainly isn’t omnibenevolent.

If you don’t like the idea that God is kind of an asshole and lets suffering in the animal kingdom happen whilst being able to stop it, that only really leaves the idea that premise 1 is wrong. God does love all animals, and would stop their suffering if he could, but he can’t! This doesn’t make much sense, though, because of course he created everything as described in Genesis.

So, in summary: for carnivores to exist, God must either not care about the suffering of their prey or be powerless to change the world for the better.

Or, of course, the much easier conclusion is that God doesn’t exist and the entire animal kingdom is the result of competing organisms evolving over hundreds of millions of years.


(19-12-2023, 02:07 PM)Oyk Wrote:  In answer to your earlier childish question, why do animals have emotions?

Animals were not meant to be robots, emotionless. To give Adam one that has no emotion would not be good for love making. Would you like to keep a dog at home that has no emotions at all?

Dog does not enjoy seeing his master in pain. It is not a sadist it's an animal. The ultimate gain of eternal satisfaction is between me and my dog named Boo which had been borne by its mother Loo. Boo was not afraid of the physical pain. His agony and anguish was compensated by the awesome satisfaction.

I was paying in SIN dollar, and that was the payment in advance. Upon the payment I will receive a voucher to redeem.

God through Christ had demonstrated to us to fear not of scam when DBS has restored to normal and eventually has to raise the price in the Lazada platform. The very things we fear is not enough cash in our account.

God through Christ has opened my granddaughter's legs for my enjoyment and be reconnected with her. The choice to accept or reject it is entirely up to me. If I want to continue to rock, that's my decision. I will answer to my mother, no need to answer to daughter. Nobody is going to judge me.

Excellent answer to a childish question Clapping

Thinking Oyk:Tempt peepur at their Archilles Point: GREED
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Why I dont believe ín Christianity - by Sentinel - 17-12-2023, 02:47 PM
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RE: Why I dont believe ín Christianity - by Hope - 17-12-2023, 06:47 PM
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RE: Why I dont believe ín Christianity - by Observer - 18-12-2023, 10:27 AM
RE: Why I dont believe ín Christianity - by starbugstk - 19-12-2023, 07:00 PM
RE: Why I dont believe ín Christianity - by Manthink - 18-12-2023, 12:28 PM
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