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(08-07-2022, 07:53 AM)watchfirst9 Wrote: Even west electronic media also told stories they moving into 14nm.
Kokee still use youtube story to tell mC still in 90nm.
Speechless
They even will tell you current China one and only semicon factory SMIC was also belonged to ROC originally.
So dont waste time to watch this kind of youtube clip. It will only make you look stupid. China has 1.4 billion ppl, you believe they dont have the talents. 打死我都不相信!
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(09-07-2022, 07:39 PM)kokee Wrote: let see can US make china biggest IC company, SMIC, close down!!
SMIC equipment mostly rely on US suppliers.
If SMIC game over, then china IC industry also almost game over!!
传老美要收拾中芯 北京跳脚抗议
Another fake news by you.
Show evidence of SMIC close down!
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By end of 2022 or 2023, when China will supply 70% of China market, US will get less than 30% of market share in China.
Just like Boeing, 292 aircraft order all go to Airbus and Boeing gets 0.
Chip industry will be the same.
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Alam Kok,
You know nut lah.
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(09-07-2022, 07:39 PM)kokee Wrote: let see can US make china biggest IC company, SMIC, close down!!
SMIC equipment mostly rely on US suppliers.
If SMIC game over, then china IC industry also almost game over!!
传老美要收拾中芯 北京跳脚抗议
to prevent technology transfer to SMIC, US block all IC manufacturing equipment to SMIC now, hope US also stop all spare parts used, sanction all country or company try to buy thru 3rd country for SMIC!!
美擬針對性限制出口 防「中芯國際」獲先進製程
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(10-07-2022, 08:59 AM)webinarian Wrote: Alam Kok,
You know nut lah.
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Who let the slave kokee out woof woof woof woof woof
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(10-07-2022, 08:16 AM)RiseofAsia Wrote: They even will tell you current China one and only semicon factory SMIC was also belonged to ROC originally. 
So dont waste time to watch this kind of youtube clip. It will only make you look stupid. China has 1.4 billion ppl, you believe they dont have the talents. 打死我都不相信!
https://sgtalk.net/Thread-U-S-Wants-Chin...14nm-Chips
mC is capable to do mid end soon by itself with or without external help.
That itself is a incredible feat as it cannot be done in other place.
Coming 3nm may still need a decade but 3nm market is still relative v small.
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TSMC also need lot of support from globally in order to produce their most advanced IC in the world, that is why TSMC also need US, TSMC biggest shareholder is also US.
equipment from holland & global company, material from japan, taiwan has excellent talents, supporting industry & manpower in IC manufacturing!!
wihtout global support, china probably can only do 90 nm & above IC, 30-40 yrs ago technology!!
打臉中國“芯片對抗”計畫, 以為打下台灣, 就能自造芯片? 為何台灣能造芯片, 中國卻不行的原因 !
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(10-07-2022, 10:26 AM)watchfirst9 Wrote: https://sgtalk.net/Thread-U-S-Wants-Chin...14nm-Chips
mC is capable to do mid end soon by itself with or without external help.
That itself is a incredible feat as it cannot be done in other place.
Coming 3nm may still need a decade but 3nm market is still relative v small.
Damn bloody thick skin
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(10-07-2022, 10:50 AM)Omnipresent88 Wrote: Damn bloody thick skin
Who let the slave kokee out woof woof woof woof woof
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He is at other thread now,
He needs to explain how come his news report 90nm become 14nm by Department of Commerce.
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If ASML dont even sell DUV & all it spare parts in future, then likely china can only produce 50-90 nm IC.
without advanced IC, china technology has no way to progress from here!!
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(10-07-2022, 11:09 AM)watchfirst9 Wrote: He is at other thread now,
He needs to explain how come his news report 90nm become 14nm by Department of Commerce. 
Kokee eat shit
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(10-07-2022, 08:34 AM)webinarian Wrote: Another fake news by you.
Show evidence of SMIC close down! .
![[Image: kokee26.png]](https://i.ibb.co/mJg1ny2/kokee26.png)
Kokee fake
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Now not only EUV cant sell to china, DUV also soon will be banned in chna, then generally game over for china IC industry!!
美台日韓Chip 4晶片聯盟,強化供應鏈對抗中國,下月啟動
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(10-07-2022, 11:09 AM)watchfirst9 Wrote: He is at other thread now,
He needs to explain how come his news report 90nm become 14nm by Department of Commerce. 
Bankrupt loser kokee howling again and again
Who let the slave kokee out woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof
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(10-07-2022, 11:09 AM)watchfirst9 Wrote: He is at other thread now,
He needs to explain how come his news report 90nm become 14nm by Department of Commerce.
Bankrupt loser kokee howling again and again and again and again
Who let the slave kokee out woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof
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Think of it this way, u heard of market (buyer) killed supplier, when a product is no longer in demand and don't buy from supplier
But u ever heard of a supplier killed a market (buyer)?
Even in the recent ukraine war, oil and gas prices spike, everyone just pay more. U never heard EU got killed because of no gas and oil.
1. I have served the nation in a combat unit for 2.5 + 10 years. I had fulfilled my duty as a citizen, but has the country do it's part for me?
2. I don't know where the threat of CCP is, but I know the threat of CECA is already at my doorsteps
3. I had been called a CCP, JHK, Pinoy, but they never called me a CECA..
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game over for china IC industry!!
totally cut off from the world!
Lifeline cut off! China's chip epic slump
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(07-07-2022, 11:44 AM)webinarian Wrote:
Yes. 5-7 nm chips are used in hand phones because mobile phones' circuit boards are just the size of finger nail size. But circuit boards are used not just in mobile phones, they are used in all the high tech equipment including air-con system, vehicles, alternative power, artificial intelligence system, missiles, weapons, outer space stations, etc etc.
Just like Boeing lost the order of 292 aircraft, US chips will lose the market of chips in the next few years. China is the biggest market for chip and semi-conductors. China set the target supplying 70% chips in China market and may reach by end of 2022. When that is achieved, US chips will only supply to 30% or lesser in China's market.
Gradually, US will see loss of chips sale in the years to come. China is also developing chips of 5 nm and below and US loss of market will even be more.
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(07-07-2022, 11:44 AM)webinarian Wrote:
Yes. 5-7 nm chips are used in hand phones because mobile phones' circuit boards are just the size of finger nail size. But circuit boards are used not just in mobile phones, they are used in all the high tech equipment including air-con system, vehicles, alternative power, artificial intelligence system, missiles, weapons, outer space stations, etc etc.
Just like Boeing lost the order of 292 aircraft, US chips will lose the market of chips in the next few years. China is the biggest market for chip and semi-conductors. China set the target supplying 70% chips in China market and may reach by end of 2022. When that is achieved, US chips will only supply to 30% or lesser in China's market.
Gradually, US will see loss of chips sale in the years to come. China is also developing chips of 5 nm and below and US loss of market will even be more.
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Talk no use. Show tt there is a fab plant in China that can produce chip size less than 12 nm then talk about 7 or 5 nm lah
Omi.. Thank you for bumping up the message.
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(07-07-2022, 09:25 PM)Go webinarian Wrote: This is news from Semi-conductors association. People believe news from such professional body than cult news, lah.
China’s Share of Global Chip Sales Now Surpasses Taiwan’s, Closing in on Europe’s and Japan’s
China’s Share of Global Chip Sales Now Surpasses Taiwan's, Closing in on Europe's and Japan's - Semiconductor Industry Association (semiconductors.org)
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Never say what size. Think 16 nm chips.
Omi.. Thank you for bumping up the message.
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(09-07-2022, 07:39 PM)kokee Wrote: let see can US make china biggest IC company, SMIC, close down!!
SMIC equipment mostly rely on US suppliers.
If SMIC game over, then china IC industry also almost game over
US makes China firm SMIC close down?
Lie again by Alam Kok.
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Alam Kok ,
Know nut, lah.
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