[Oyk]

If Women have to go five times,

They have to wash,dress, beautify five times

They have to face vulgar men five times 

Can women walk in the dark hours three times without a companion?

Vulgar/Evil people can harm women if they know the time and path they walk frequently 

If a woman is missing for prayers, other people can assume/ gossip about her ( menses and etc)

Please lar, women go to Buddhist temples, churches, Sikh temples....what menses and dress up are you on about here?  This is Singapore and it's very safe to take a SBS bus or MRT to a church or the temple on Queen Street lar.  How is going to a mosque dangerous?

[Hope]

So hope confirmed to be male

Yes. I am a male.

Haven’t taken tongat Ali, Viagra or cheap Kingu candy 
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapor...ng-4260346

[Hope]

Women got not much rights in Islam. Go out also must get husband's approval 

What rights should women have?

[Ali Imran]

1)Islamic courts are controlled by men.
2) Woman doesn't have the right to divorce and must seek a court to grant her divorce for specific reasons other then her just wanting to be divorced or dissatisfaction with the marriage while while the man has the right to divorce.
3) Women must obey the husband
4) Women must seek permission to go somewhere from the husband.

Islam is a male dominated religion both in theory and practice. The women there don't seem to be trying to change this. Do they need help or should they be left alone?

Yes, Islam is patriarchal, no doubt.

If you're a simp, don't be a Muslim.

[Oyk]

hehehe.. i like that one. Should say vulgar and disgusting men. Yes we are.

If you think women are not vulgar and disgusting then you must be living in a cave.

Women also say pukimak or mak kau punya laki.

When a Muslim man goes to a mosque I am sure he is anything but vulgar.  If women think men are disgusting, then don't marry.  And they should ask their mothers, why did they even marry their disgusting fathers and let them piak. 

[Oyk]

Yes, Islam is patriarchal, no doubt.

If you're a simp, don't be a Muslim.

Men:  We are patriarchal

AWARE:  No, you are chauvinistic.  .

[Hope]

Please lar, women go to Buddhist temples, churches, Sikh temples....what menses and dress up are you on about here?  This is Singapore and it's very safe to take a SBS bus or MRT to a church or the temple on Queen Street lar.  How is going to a mosque dangerous?

Islam is a universal religion.The law/practice  aren’t based on Saudi Arabia or Singapore or century we are living

Was singapore safe 100 years ago?

[Ali Imran]

If you think women are not vulgar and disgusting then you must be living in a cave.

Women also say pukimak or mak kau punya laki.

When a Muslim man goes to a mosque I am sure he is anything but vulgar.  If women think men are disgusting, then don't marry.  And they should ask their mothers, why did they even marry their disgusting fathers and let them piak. 

I'm just playing with stereotypes. 

On a serious note, we shouldn't be vulgar. I don't like crude or vulgar language.

[Oyk]

hehehe.. i like that one. Should say vulgar and disgusting men. Yes we are.

It's not IIRC, but IRC which stands for I Remember Correctly....the last time you started your post with "hehehe" was when you posted about 72 virgins.

When you hehehe while talking about Islam with Muslim women standing nearby, I am sure they would find you to be damn disgusting.  

[Hope]

If you think women are not vulgar and disgusting then you must be living in a cave.

Women also say pukimak or mak kau punya laki.

When a Muslim man goes to a mosque I am sure he is anything but vulgar.  If women think men are disgusting, then don't marry.  And they should ask their mothers, why did they even marry their disgusting fathers and let them piak. 

Men and women are vulgar. When there is a chance to encounter frequently, The third person devils can enter their body.

Islam prevent unnecessary problems

Why married men and women had to resign from politics?They had chance to socialise frequently.Now go and ask spouses what they are going through

[Blasterlord2]

That is false. Women have rights. Men have rights.

I didn't say no rights woh. I only say fewer/lesser rights 

BTW, muslims husbands got out need to inform wives or not huh?

[Blasterlord2]

What rights should women have?

Men can have multiple wives, so women can get multiple husbands? 

[Oyk]

I'm just playing with stereotypes. 

On a serious note, we shouldn't be vulgar. I don't like crude or vulgar language.

I am not so convinced that you don't like crude or vulgar language because such vocabulary is part of the culture, not just Malay culture but all cultures.

Your first sentence will have more integrity if you have written:  "I stand corrected", instead of giving lame excuses.

[Ali Imran]

Men:  We are patriarchal

AWARE:  No, you are chauvinistic.  .

LOL

I know what you are saying and I'm convinced you're a man.

What AWARE, or feminism in general, is doing is making women unhappy in general. For example, most women here want to get married but not enough men to marry them. Why? One reason is that men are afraid of marriage after seeing their friends shredded by AWARE's involvement in divorce. So, in the long run, women lose.

Another reason why men are not marrying women is caused by another ism, liberalism. Sexual freedom is encouraged by liberalism. "If you can get the milk for free, no need to buy the cow," said the men.

[Hope]

Men can have multiple wives, so women can get multiple husbands? 

How many women in the world,Christian women,Buddhist women, Hindu women have four husbands?
Are they allowed to have at least two husbands?

Have you met at least ten Muslim men who has four wives?

[Ali Imran]

I am not so convinced that you don't like crude or vulgar language because such vocabulary is part of the culture, not just Malay culture but all cultures.

Your first sentence will have more integrity if you have written:  "I stand corrected", instead of giving lame excuses.

I am not looking to sell you anything so I don't care if you're not convinced.

On that point, I stand by what I've said. I don't need to be corrected.

[Blasterlord2]

How many women in the world,Christian women,Buddhist women, Hindu women have four husbands?
Are they allowed to have at least two husbands?

Did their laws say that the women could have multiple husbands? Dun have right? 

Only Islam law says can have multiple wives, that's why I ask if muslim women can have multiple husbands.

[Lukongsimi]

How many women in the world,Christian women,Buddhist women, Hindu women have four husbands?
Are they allowed to have at least two husbands?

Unless her husband mati or else it’s adultery can be allowed to remarry
But cannot marry divorce spouse who committed adultery in bible.

[Oyk]

Men and women are vulgar. When there is a chance to encounter frequently, The third person devils can enter their body.

Islam prevent unnecessary problems

Why married men and women had to resign from politics?They had chance to socialise frequently.Now go and ask spouses what they are going through

Muhammad didn't resign from politics (yup! politics) because he was married wor.  Instead, he married even more women.

Closer to home, you want Anwar to resign as Msia's PM because he's married?  In Singapore, Faisal Manap isn't working from behind a curtain  He went around everywhere meeting all sorts of peepur. and he is a Muslim..  

Even RK, a Muslim woman, didn't think she was wrong to be a MP.

You seem to be having some degree of cognitive decline which is affecting the things you said.

[Ali Imran]

I didn't say no rights woh. I only say fewer/lesser rights 

BTW, muslims husbands got out need to inform wives or not huh?

Not necessary but he should do it out of courtesy.

Fyi. A woman has the right to her husband's income but the husband doesn't have the right to hers.

[Blasterlord2]

Not necessary but he should do it out of courtesy.

Fyi. A woman has the right to her husband's income but the husband doesn't have the right to hers.

Pls quote the koran 

[Ali Imran]

Did their laws say that the women could have multiple husbands? Dun have right? 

Only Islam law says can have multiple wives, that's why I ask if muslim women can have multiple husbands.

No, polyandry is not allowed in Islam.

Islam puts control on polygyny by introducing 2 new rules. Islam introduces a limit, max is 4. Islam puts a condition; if you cannot be fair to your wives, you MUST marry only one. Because of that 2nd rule, I cannot take a 2nd wife. I don't think I can be fair because I love my wife a lot and I'm very comfortable with her by my side.

[Ali Imran]

Pls quote the koran 

That same famous "wife-beating" verse. 4:34.

[Oyk]

I am not looking to sell you anything so I don't care if you're not convinced.

On that point, I stand by what I've said. I don't need to be corrected.

What do you even have to sell other than your backside which nobody is interested in anyway?  And if you are so incorrigible and unteachable, that's your problem, not mine.  I have already made my point.

[pinkpanther]

From a frustrated Muslim lady

I am a Muslim woman. I get half of any inheritance that my brother gets.

I am a Muslim woman. My testimony is only worth half that of a man.

I am a Muslim woman. During prayers, I cannot pray in the same row as my sons but must always be behind them.

I am a Muslim woman. Before I go out of my house, I must first get my husband’s permission to leave the house.

I am a Muslim woman. As a wife, my husband is entitled to marry 3 other woman, but I can only be married to one, at a time.

I am a Muslim woman. As a wife, I am ordered to obey the husband.

I am a Muslim woman. As a wife I am only entitled to 1/8 of my husbands estate (thats if he only has one wife, otherwise I am only entitled to 1/32 of his estate if he has 4 wives.) But my husband is entitled to half of whatever I own upon my death, if I have no children, and 1/4 if I have children.

I am a Muslim woman. While the men can wear anything they want, I am required to cover my whole body save for my face and hands. Frankly it would make more sense to blindfold the men and save cloth.

I am a Muslim woman. I cannot divorce my husband unless he agrees. Unless I redeem myself through Khul'. Unless I fight for my right to freedom in the courts. Which takes time. My husband just has to say the word.

I am a Muslim woman. My ex husband doesnt bother to pay for my childrens maintenance. It is not an offence. But if I fail to obey my husband to have sex with him, I am nusyuz. And the angels will not visit me for I am cursed for the night

I am a Muslim woman. I cannot marry a Jew or a Christian. A Muslim man can.

Isn't this caste system? Islam never wants to be treated the same way they treat others.

[Blasterlord2]

That same famous "wife-beating" verse. 4:34.

Can quote here or not? Later I found the wrong one you bash me up 

I want the exact quote to say that Muslim women have the right to their husbands' money.

[Ali Imran]

What do you even have to sell other than your backside which nobody is interested in anyway?  And if you are so incorrigible and unteachable, that's your problem, not mine.  I have already made my point.

hehehe

ouch?

[Blasterlord2]

No, polyandry is not allowed in Islam.

Islam puts control on polygyny by introducing 2 new rules. Islam introduces a limit, max is 4. Islam puts a condition; if you cannot be fair to your wives, you MUST marry only one. Because of that 2nd rule, I cannot take a 2nd wife. I don't think I can be fair because I love my wife a lot and I'm very comfortable with her by my side.

There you go. You have just said that muslim women cannot have multiple husbands. 

You are a man of cos you'll say it's a very fair law 

[Ali Imran]

Can quote here or not? Later I found the wrong one you bash me up 

I want the exact quote to say that Muslim women have the right to their husbands' money.

"Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means."

Our role in a marriage as the husband is clearly defined there. We must support our wives with our income ergo the wives have the right to our income. 

[Oyk]

Islam is a universal religion.The law/practice  aren’t based on Saudi Arabia or Singapore or century we are living

Was singapore safe 100 years ago?

So it's very dangerous for a woman to go to a mosque in some countries, and so Muslim women should not go to a mosque in Singapore.

It's a one-size-fits-all rule.  Noted.