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(05-06-2024, 02:27 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: I highly recommend you read the autobiography of the prophet from serious historians instead of listening to all these hate-Islam youtubers.
Hating Islam with empty barking is not going to persuade anyone.
But if the speaker can produce sauces from Islamic scholars, or quote the Quran and Hadith, then even you should admit that he's telling the truth about Muh.
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(05-06-2024, 02:07 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Yes, you are not forcing me to accept your faith.
We are on the topic of declaration of faith. The 1st part of my declaration of faith goes like this; there is but 1 God. It is simple and coherent. Your declaration of faith would go like this: there is but 1 God in 3 Gods and it is incoherent and its complication is classified as a mystery.
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May I know the 2nd part of your declaration of faith goes to who?
You really like to bring people to the party! But you must know who is the host!
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(05-06-2024, 02:30 PM)Oyk Wrote: Curry nah. We say there are 3 Persons in One God.
This potato said "but 1 God in 3 Gods"..
See how he twist and turn. Very bad upbringing! ![Rolleyes Rolleyes](https://sgtalk.net/images/smilies/rolleyes.png)
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(05-06-2024, 02:16 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: You are guilty of strawmanning.
We are talking about a specific point, the historical reliability of the Hadith. You bring in faith of the Hindus.
Haiya....talk abt reliability...your Muslim sauce on whether it was muh or Saad who ordered the massacre has been proven by me to be unreliable!
Your pro Islamic sauce from my link went one step further to say Muh killed the fighting men....I didn't say that...they say it!
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(05-06-2024, 02:54 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:
May I know the 2nd part of your declaration of faith goes to who?
You really like to bring people to the party! But you must know who is the host!
The 2nd part of the declaration for the followers of Jesus will be similar to ours albeit Jesus instead of Muhammad.
Peace and blessings be upon the 2 mighty messengers of Allah.
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(05-06-2024, 02:30 PM)Oyk Wrote: Curry nah. We say there are 3 Persons in One God.
This potato said "but 1 God in 3 Gods"..
See how he twist and turn. Very bad upbringing! ![Rolleyes Rolleyes](https://sgtalk.net/images/smilies/rolleyes.png)
I didn't twist anything. It is called logical assumption.
You believe in 1 God consisting of 3 persons and each one of the person is fully God. Well, I don't really know what you believe but that is what the Athanasian creed states. So, if the 3 persons are all fully God then you can substitute the term 'person' to 'God' ergo you believe in 1 God consisting of 3 Gods.
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(05-06-2024, 02:37 PM)Oyk Wrote: Hating Islam with empty barking is not going to persuade anyone.
But if the speaker can produce sauces from Islamic scholars, or quote the Quran and Hadith, then even you should admit that he's telling the truth about Muh.
When the speaker gives you a half-truth, would you know?
When Jay Smith said the Quran says Adam and Eve were sent down to earth in Makkah, did you believe it at first?
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(05-06-2024, 03:34 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Haiya....talk abt reliability...your Muslim sauce on whether it was muh or Saad who ordered the massacre has been proven by me to be unreliable!
Your pro Islamic sauce from my link went one step further to say Muh killed the fighting men....I didn't say that...they say it!
Ibn Umar reported:
فَقَتَلَ رِجَالَهُمْ وَقَسَمَ نِسَاءَهُمْ وَأَوْلَادَهُمْ وَأَمْوَالَهُمْ بَيْنَ الْمُسْلِمِينَ إِلَّا أَنَّ بَعْضَهُمْ لَحِقُوا بِرَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَآمَنَهُمْ وَأَسْلَمُوا
Thus,
the Prophet killed their fighting men and he distributed their women, children, and property among the Muslims except for some of them who had joined the Messenger of Allah and so he granted them protection and they embraced Islam.
Many of the male descendants of Quraiza lived, some of them embracing Islam, which is proof that the Prophet did not commit genocide (extermination of an entire race), but rather
he only approved the execution of their combatants as an act of self-defense.
I never say muh kill hor...! Will you take back your words that I am a liar?
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(05-06-2024, 04:00 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: The 2nd part of the declaration for the followers of Jesus will be similar to ours albeit Jesus instead of Muhammad.
Peace and blessings be upon the 2 mighty messengers of Allah.
Where is the sauce! Give me the reliable ones this time!
Where is the peace be upon them you purposely left out in the first para?
How many times are you going to be disrespectful to them?
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(05-06-2024, 04:08 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Ibn Umar reported:
فَقَتَلَ رِجَالَهُمْ وَقَسَمَ نِسَاءَهُمْ وَأَوْلَادَهُمْ وَأَمْوَالَهُمْ بَيْنَ الْمُسْلِمِينَ إِلَّا أَنَّ بَعْضَهُمْ لَحِقُوا بِرَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَآمَنَهُمْ وَأَسْلَمُوا
Thus, the Prophet killed their fighting men and he distributed their women, children, and property among the Muslims except for some of them who had joined the Messenger of Allah and so he granted them protection and they embraced Islam.
Many of the male descendants of Quraiza lived, some of them embracing Islam, which is proof that the Prophet did not commit genocide (extermination of an entire race), but rather he only approved the execution of their combatants as an act of self-defense.
I never say muh kill hor...! Will you take back your words that I am a liar?
They have surrendered! How is executing them an act of self defense?
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(05-06-2024, 04:09 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Where is the sauce! Give me the reliable ones this time!
Where is the peace be upon them you purposely left out in the first para?
How many times are you going to be disrespectful to them? ![Big Grin Big Grin](https://sgtalk.net/images/smilies/biggrin.png)
Source for what?
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(05-06-2024, 04:07 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: When the speaker gives you a half-truth, would you know?
When Jay Smith said the Quran says Adam and Eve were sent down to earth in Makkah, did you believe it at first?
Did I write any bombastic words which you couldn't understand?
That beedio isn't showing Bro Jay. It's showing Christian Prince, a native Arabic speaker, showing the Islamic evidence big big so all Arabic speakers are free to hammer him if he misquoted or mistranslated.
No one has said in the Comments Section he did either or both of the two, wor.
So, potato, do you nao admit that your Muh was one of the following:-
1. A lustful man and hence a false prophet
2. A lustful man in a porn story that's fictional
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(05-06-2024, 04:07 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: When the speaker gives you a half-truth, would you know?
When Jay Smith said the Quran says Adam and Eve were sent down to earth in Makkah, did you believe it at first?
Btw, Bro Jay didn't say that the Quran said that A&E were cast down to Mecca. It was the Hadith which said that.
So half of what you said that Bro Jay had said is true while the other half that you accused him of is a fat pig lie
And that's what a half truth is about, yours for context, potato..
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(05-06-2024, 04:02 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: I didn't twist anything. It is called logical assumption.
You believe in 1 God consisting of 3 persons and each one of the person is fully God. Well, I don't really know what you believe but that is what the Athanasian creed states. So, if the 3 persons are all fully God then you can substitute the term 'person' to 'God' ergo you believe in 1 God consisting of 3 Gods.
Your mother has a cheesepie
The cbeesepie ish damn smerry
Your mother ish damn smerry
Rogical asshumption
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