[Sticw]

Actually 9 yo are not as incapable as we deem. My son around the same age also doesn't want to take the vaccine and said that the risk is not worth the benefit.

And last year when moe wanted kids to go back to school on the context of social well-being and social interaction. But the actual thing in school is social distancing, and basically every kid looking at each other suffer together. What's the point? Just study at home then...

[Gemstar]

Actually 9 yo are not as incapable as we deem. My son around the same age also doesn't want to take the vaccine and said that the risk is not worth the benefit.

And last year when moe wanted kids to go back to school on the context of social well-being and social interaction. But the actual thing in school is social distancing, and basically every kid looking at each other suffer together. What's the point? Just study at home then...

A 9-yr old kid can think wisely and sensible too. They can be just as knowledgeable and intelligent like anyone else.  Not surprisingly.

[theold]

https://streamable.com/e3cgha

[happyharvest]

https://streamable.com/e3cgha

[Migrant]

This case from Healing the Divide.
The anti vaccine group.

[debono]

A 9-yr old kid can think wisely and sensible too. They can be just as knowledgeable and intelligent like anyone else.  Not surprisingly.

Logically thinking I don't think a child of 9 is able to sue a minister, even if the child is a child prodigy, the brain is not fully developed yet.. it will be a first in the world to allow this to happen....

[Migrant]

If there is anyone lawyer taking this type of case. It must be Ravi😂

[debono]

If there is anyone lawyer taking this type of case. It must be Ravi😂

What a bad choice...

[Sticw]

I think because govt can pofma everyone else but they themselves will just make any subjective statement without a counter balance.

Already mentioned that there has been quite a few subjective and even personal view kind of statement from govt and related persons but not substantiated. Also there are lots of other gov and research bodies that already dismissed some of those position yet govt personals have been sticking to their lines of argument or suggestions while putting others on pofma...

Many govt and independent research out there already mentioned that viral load is the same for vaccinated and unvaccinated yet govt said unvaccinated causing the spread. And many research out there highlighted that vaccinated folks are carrying around the virus and passing on cos they are asymptomatic. Yet Singapore continues to witch hunt unvaccinated while opening up for international travel.

Anyways, I think the kindergarten teachers should grow up and don't treat citizens and locals as kids. Be true to your pledge and be sure that you will be judge by the power and position you were endowed with.

Peace.

[debono]

I think because govt can pofma everyone else but they themselves will just make any subjective statement without a counter balance.

Already mentioned that there has been quite a few subjective and even personal view kind of statement from govt and related persons but not substantiated. Also there are lots of other gov and research bodies that already dismissed some of those position yet govt personals have been sticking to their lines of argument or suggestions while putting others on pofma...

Many govt and independent research out there already mentioned that viral load is the same for vaccinated and unvaccinated yet govt said unvaccinated causing the spread. And many research out there highlighted that vaccinated folks are carrying around the virus and passing on cos they are asymptomatic. Yet Singapore continues to witch hunt unvaccinated while opening up for international travel.

Anyways, I think the kindergarten teachers should grow up and don't treat citizens and locals as kids. Be true to your pledge and be sure that you will be judge by the power and position you were endowed with.

Peace.

You are right to say that vaccinated folks are carrying the virus and are asymptotic, and that our govt. idea of vaccinating all here so that they are free from the virus...

[Sticw]

You are right to say that vaccinated folks are carrying the virus and are asymptotic, and that our govt. idea of vaccinating all here so that they are free from the virus...

Nothing wrong with the strategy but very wrong to then use false statement.

[Sticw]

You can say unvaccinated has a higher chance of more severity when down with covid, but you cannot say unvaccinated spread the virus or endangers others.

Because the vaccinated ones carry the same viral load and because they mostly are asymptomatic, they go on with their normal lives and by the fact that they are out there everywhere unlike the unvaccinated ones, how can you then blame unvaccinated for the spread? And to the extend that unvaccinated are discriminated?

That's why later on you saw the messaging switch to a narrative of protecting the unvaccinated by limiting their outdoor and exposure...

Again in my opinion it's about withholding the standard if you want others to not make falsehood statements is to ensure that what you said is factual. Else how can others be willing to accept your pofma is the right way forward and that it's not because you are authoritarian or even a dictatorial govt?

[Sticw]

In 1965 the bulk of population may not be well educated (but certainly they are not dumb people), so a bit more authoritarian may work so people can see the results and then yield to your rule.

Today is 2022, safe to say the bulk of the people are educated and have good access to many media inputs to validate what you said is right or wrong. Hence, the governing style has to change. And to compound further, many of the current administration track record is not as good as the first administration. So you can't blame people for doubting you as compared to during the days of the first administration.

If you are making lives much much better for the majority, you get less opposing voices. But look at the multiple fold of Singaporeans on welfare today? Surely the number of angry people is rising due to the inequality... Perhaps spend effort to solve such than COP or whatever less important things might win you more political cookie points...

[revealer]

Purpose  of the lawsuit is not to win ...chances are low but to present their side of the story and evidence to the contrary.

The main unhappiness is the govt decided and use pressure to have its way and disregarded the fears and concerns of some parents.

if the sue is about the use of pressure to get children vaccinated;  then, it is like an April Fool story,   there is no chance to win.  Heard that it was because of the talking about the vaccine being safe for children.  This is what anti-vax has always been harping.  "The vaccine is new and not tested for long term effects,  so cannot say it is safe".  If this is the case,  we would never know what will be the verdict of the court.  Saying the vaccine is safe without any qualification can have different meanings and consequences if it is spoken by a VIP. But the risks involved are already known and has become common knowledge today.

[Blasterlord2]

Even if the kid is damn smart and got all the facts right he's not wise enough to know that he won't win. His parents should at least counsel him on that, unless they're prepared to throw good money away.

[moonrab]

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthc...021-06-29/

Case closed.
Even China approved 3-11 years old vaccination

[moonrab]

Even if the kid is damn smart and got all the facts right he's not wise enough to know that he won't win. His parents should at least counsel him on that, unless they're prepared to throw good money away.

They are toying with his age...
But never consider what will be the complexity of harmful effects onto his young mind, by throwing him into court...
Such parent is irresponsible imo.

[Migrant]

By law, so long as the child is below the age of 18, the parents would need to act on his behalf in order to sue the person who injures the child.

[FangFang]

He is inspire to do it ?

[webinarian]

Which parents in this world wil not concerned for their kids? Childrens are blood and sweat of the parents. Implementing it as mandatory and without choices of vaccines is the wrong approach to put a message across.

Fully agreed.   

There must be a choice of Pfizer or deactivated vaccines.   

Don't forget a 16 yo Singaporean boy had a heart stoppage a week after vaccination.   

.

[debono]

Even if the kid is damn smart and got all the facts right he's not wise enough to know that he won't win. His parents should at least counsel him on that, unless they're prepared to throw good money away.

They are toying with his age...
But never consider what will be the complexity of harmful effects onto his young mind, by throwing him into court...
Such parent is irresponsible imo.

By law, so long as the child is below the age of 18, the parents would need to act on his behalf in order to sue the person who injures the child.

As long as the child is below 18 years of age, it is his parent's responsibility to counsel the child, and not leave it to the court to decide.....in this situation it is the parents on behalf of the child who can sue ....

[Gemstar]

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthc...021-06-29/

Case closed.
Even China approved 3-11 years old vaccination

Yes. Approved. But, what type of vaccine is approved? mRNA or non-mRNA? As we are a first world country, am sure these 2 types of vaccine can be sourced out as new development of vaccines are already in place, which I believed.

[moonrab]

As long as the child is below 18 years of age, it is his parent's responsibility to counsel the child, and not leave it to the court to decide.....in this situation it is the parents on behalf of the child who can sue ....

Why the video clip promoting the 9 years old? And not the parents? 
Political agenda?
And not on medical topic?

[moonrab]

Yes. Approved. But, what type of vaccine is approved? mRNA or non-mRNA? As we are a first world country, am sure these 2 types of vaccine can be sourced out as new development of vaccines are already in place, which I believed.

SG is a very tiny state...
Only can follow the superpower countries in vaccine industry..
Whereby WHO will approve

[theold]

VIET: A young girl died after being vaccinated against Covid-19

This case of death is Ms. PSM, born in 1998, residing in Sa Pa town. Around 3:30 p.m. on December 30, 2021, Ms. M. went to Ban Khoang Regional General Clinic, Sa Pa town, to inject 2 doses of Covid-19 vaccine. Ms. M. received medical advice from the medical staff here as prescribed. The patient agrees and confirms on the Consent Form to participate in the Covid-19 vaccine vaccination.

About 30 minutes after the injection, Ms. M. felt tired, chest tightness, shortness of breath, abdominal pain and nausea. Immediately after that, the patient was transferred to Sa Pa Town General Hospital and was assisted by the emergency team of Lao Cai Provincial General Hospital. However, the patient died at 21:00 on the same day.

The patient is the second injector of the Covid-19 Comirnaty vaccine vial (Pfizer). The vial of the vaccine was administered to 6 people. Up to now, the health of 5 other people who received the same vaccine vial with Ms. S. are stable and normal.

https://tintuc.vn/mot-co-gai-tre-tu-vong...ost2208864

[theold]

If you are sick, do not take the vaccine.


Most clinics don't have these?

https://www.epipen.com/en

[ArielCasper]

Why the parents sue? Sue what? The propaganda used was not targeting at the parents but the child, so on what premise the parents are suing?

Dumb dumb

Why can't the parents sued in the interest of protecting their child? Is it because so that in the event the kid lose her case, OYK can't be suing 9 year old kid for defamation.

Smart Smart

[Sentinel]

Why can't the parents sued in the interest of protecting their child? Is it because so that in the event the kid lose her case, OYK can't be suing 9 year old kid for defamation.

Smart Smart

You still dont geddit...

Nwm

There really is no cure for stupigity

[Sentinel]

Why can't the parents sued in the interest of protecting their child? Is it because so that in the event the kid lose her case, OYK can't be suing 9 year old kid for defamation.

Smart Smart

If this case proceeds to court, the boy will never lose the case, based on the facts presented.

If only the case can successfully proceed to an open court hearing..

[ArielCasper]

A 9-yr old kid can think wisely and sensible too. They can be just as knowledgeable and intelligent like anyone else.  Not surprisingly.

Ya.. Try asking a 9 yr old kid to name all the presidents of Singapore (from 1st till now).. See how many can get it right..

I am not saying 9-yr old kid is not knowledgeable or intelligent.. But does a 9 year old kid understand the implication of suing someone?? Does a 9 year old kid understand that if she sue wrongly, OYK can counter sue her for defamation?