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(01-09-2024, 07:32 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U mean u are once a Christian and convert to Muslim?
Why
To marry a Muslim?

https://youtube.com/shorts/fmVVV501z8A?s...I4R8IiK7cm

People convert for many reasons
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(01-09-2024, 02:59 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Nobody and nothing created God
He is the Alpha n the Omega

Who are these people to Jesus 

Mary
Joachim
Zechariah 
John the Baptist
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(01-09-2024, 02:40 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  What is there to explain to others? It is according to the scriptures...I think the Jews and others have a harder time understanding how Muhammad make the night journey to Isra and miraj on a flying horse....sound like a 3 yrs old bedtime story!

David and Isaac did not marry young girls...the burden of proof is on you to provide evidences since you make the claim!

Jews cannot still understand the miraculous birth  and Ascension of Jesus to heaven.For every one , it is a 🛌 story.

If Allah can send Jesus to the world and heaven, He also can send prophet Muhammad to Isra and Miraj.

Allah is capable of anything.He is your lord, my lord, and the lord of all the prophets including Jesus and lord of all his creations.
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(02-09-2024, 08:08 AM)Hope Wrote:  Jews cannot still understand the miraculous birth  and Ascension of Jesus to heaven.For every one , it is a 🛌 story.

If Allah can send Jesus to the world and heaven, He also can send prophet Muhammad to Isra and Miraj.

Allah is capable of anything.He is your lord, my lord, and the lord of all the prophets including Jesus and lord of all his creations.

A righteous God does not need to resort to deception..

Allah deceived everyone into thinking that Jesus died on the cross by sending someone who resembled him to take his place.

Surah An-Nisa (4:157), which states: "And [for] their saying, Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah. And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them"
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(02-09-2024, 08:26 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  A righteous God does not need to resort to deception..

Allah deceived everyone into thinking that Jesus died on the cross by sending someone who resembled him to take his place.

Surah An-Nisa (4:157), which states: "And [for] their saying, Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah. And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them"

You mean person who died on the cross was Jesus?
He raised up on the third day?
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(02-09-2024, 08:31 AM)Hope Wrote:  You mean person who died on the cross was Jesus?
He raised up on the third day?

According to your Quran...Allah replaced Jesus with a substitute...
This innocent life was made to die for Jesus....

You want to die for someone who looks like you?
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(02-09-2024, 08:35 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  According to your Quran...Allah replaced Jesus with a substitute...
This innocent life was made to die for Jesus....

You want to die for someone who looks like you?

I want to know your side story, since you reject Allah’s involvement in birth, crucifixion and ascension to heaven.
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(02-09-2024, 09:09 AM)Hope Wrote:  I want to know your side story, since you reject Allah’s involvement in birth, crucifixion and ascension to heaven.

No..let's be very clear..

Would you be alright if someone harmed your child but didn't serve time in jail, while someone who looked like him ended up in prison instead?

Is it fair to lock you up for a crime that you didn't commit?
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The Christian worldview is the only worldview with Love, Truth, Morals, Logic, Science, and Free Will.. ALL other worldviews MUST borrow from the Christian worldview, in order to make sense of itself....
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(02-09-2024, 08:00 AM)Hope Wrote:  Who are these people to Jesus 

Mary
Joachim
Zechariah 
John the Baptist

Since He is the creator what u think?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(02-09-2024, 08:31 AM)Hope Wrote:  You mean person who died on the cross was Jesus?
He raised up on the third day?

Then who else died on the cross
n was resurrected ion the third day to save humanity souls ?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(02-09-2024, 07:58 AM)Hope Wrote:  https://youtube.com/shorts/fmVVV501z8A?s...I4R8IiK7cm

People convert for many reasons
Some people prefer to belong to father of lies or Father of the truth

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(02-09-2024, 09:14 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  No..let's be very clear..

Would you be alright if someone harmed your child but didn't serve time in jail, while someone who looked like him ended up in prison instead?

Is it fair to lock you up for a crime that you didn't commit?

Is it fair some dies for the sins of other people?
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(02-09-2024, 09:44 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Since He is the creator what u think?

I don’t understand. You mean they are creations of Jesus? No blood relatives?
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(02-09-2024, 09:48 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Then who else died on the cross
n was resurrected ion the third day to save humanity souls ?
You have to check with people who wrote that crucifiction

Allah saved his servant Jesus from such humiliation
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(02-09-2024, 09:54 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Some people prefer to belong to father of lies or Father of the truth

What lies? His conversation? There are hundreds of videos in her channel. Please surf.
Please See Another video from another channel . She was Christian preacher

https://youtu.be/HVAaoz0pGds?si=BQTovmt47Cw5YWCp
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(02-09-2024, 10:52 AM)Hope Wrote:  Is it fair some dies for the sins of other people?

Since Jesus' sacrifice is the definitive offering for sin, no further sacrifices are needed...isn't it wonderful

Many Muslims continue to hold the belief in sacrifice. During the Aqiqah ceremony, which involves shaving a baby's head seven days after birth, male infants are often circumcised. Some Muslims view this act as a form of sacrifice to Allah...
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(02-09-2024, 10:53 AM)Hope Wrote:  I don’t understand. You mean they are creations of Jesus? No blood relatives?

Jesus was born of the Holy Spirit
Got blood relatives?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(02-09-2024, 10:56 AM)Hope Wrote:  You have to check with people who wrote that crucifiction

Allah saved his servant Jesus from such humiliation

Allah saved Jesus from humiliation?? Big Grin Jesus is not a coward...only the Quran makes him a coward and makes Allah a trickster

So some innocent fellow has to die in his place?
 you believe this injustice was justified? Wake up before it is too late!
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(02-09-2024, 10:58 AM)Hope Wrote:  What lies? His conversation? There are hundreds of videos in her channel. Please surf.
Please See Another video from another channel . She was Christian preacher

https://youtu.be/HVAaoz0pGds?si=BQTovmt47Cw5YWCp
People want to convert for some reasons like marriage.it doesn’t mean that the Word of God is false.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(02-09-2024, 10:56 AM)Hope Wrote:  You have to check with people who wrote that crucifiction

Allah saved his servant Jesus from such humiliation

If Not written in the bible are false.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(02-09-2024, 10:56 AM)Hope Wrote:  You have to check with people who wrote that crucifiction

Allah saved his servant Jesus from such humiliation

He causes an innocent life to die in vain.  
Secondly, he portrays Jesus as a coward.  
Thirdly, he deceives everyone into believing that Jesus is dead...  
Can he truly be considered honorable?
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Quran 6:1”All praise is for Allah Who created the heavens and the earth and made darkness and light.1 Yet the disbelievers set up equals to their Lord 
˹in worship˺.”


Quran 6:2”He is the One Who created you from clay,1 then appointed a term ˹for your death˺ and another known only to Him ˹for your resurrection˺—yet you continue to doubt!”

Quran 6:3”He is the Only True God in the heavens and the earth. He knows whatever you conceal and whatever you reveal, and knows whatever you do.”

Quran 6;4”Whenever a sign comes to them from their Lord, they turn away from it.”
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Matthew 24:24 

For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.

Matthew 7:15 

“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

John 3:16-17 

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
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 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(02-09-2024, 08:35 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  According to your Quran...Allah replaced Jesus with a substitute...
This innocent life was made to die for Jesus....

You want to die for someone who looks like you?
Can you show me the Quran verse as a proof?
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(02-09-2024, 11:30 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Since Jesus' sacrifice is the definitive offering for sin, no further sacrifices are needed...isn't it wonderful

Many Muslims continue to hold the belief in sacrifice. During the Aqiqah ceremony, which involves shaving a baby's head seven days after birth, male infants are often circumcised. Some Muslims view this act as a form of sacrifice to Allah...

Aqiqah is given to thank Allah for giving an off spring.
It is not sacrifice to Allah.

Aqiqah is not compulsory if person can not afford.
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(02-09-2024, 11:34 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Jesus was born of the Holy Spirit
Got blood relatives?
Mary is his mother 
Joachim is grand father.

Denying Mary as his mother is rejecting your Catholicism
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(02-09-2024, 11:37 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Allah saved Jesus from humiliation?? Big Grin Jesus is not a coward...only the Quran makes him a coward and makes Allah a trickster

So some innocent fellow has to die in his place?
 you believe this injustice was justified? Wake up before it is too late!
It is your belief it says he was crucified.
Didn’t he cry on the cross?
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(02-09-2024, 11:39 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  People want to convert for some reasons like marriage.it doesn’t mean that the Word of God is false.

Beside human, building and church buildings also converting to Islam 😂😂🙏

https://youtu.be/zYkCJJXOkIE?si=83Ix4KaaUxHG-rsf
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