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(14-09-2024, 10:15 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You told me that you only follow the teachings of Muhammad pbuh.. see I am very courteous, I don insult him  Big Grin but you find it irrelevant to follow the teachings of the past prophets like Moses...see how ungrateful and disobedient you can get! Big Grin

I am asking to know how many commandments are there?
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(14-09-2024, 09:51 AM)Hope Wrote:  Prophet Muhammad didn’t know English, He used his Arabic word Allah.

Did Jesus use English word Lord?


Allah means in Chinese


https://youtube.com/shorts/5qp-BNrop7o?s...Il81UbXhGB

Hello...you also call Allah Lord lah...what are you talking about!
We Amen..you ameen...

You follow the Bible but make some slight adjustments
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(14-09-2024, 10:21 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Why you refuse to use pbuh when you talk abt Muhammad  Big Grin
Of cos Muhammad spoke Arabic therefore Allah is God in his language..
Jesus uses the word Abba to describe the Father....we also use the word Abba ..but many prefer to call Father!

Any proof to show if Jesus had used word Abba?
What is the full meaning of father?

a(1) : a male parent. (2) : a man who has begotten a child. also : a male animal who has sired an offspring.

No mention God
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(14-09-2024, 01:33 AM)S I M T A N Wrote:  I used the word 'guilt' 12 times in my post to explain why I know I'm disobeying God. Somehow my message was lost on you. Maybe your way of knowing if you're disobeying God is different from the Christian way. As someone who is very much given to rule-keeping, you know a violation of God's laws or a lack of obedience when you see one. Failing to keep the rules is therefore your way of knowing you haven't acted in obedience to God.

For us a new birth into a new life isn't supposed to be a downtrodden, miserable existence of struggling to keep religious rules and regulations and feeling guilty when we fail. This isn't to say we shouldn't do good works, but they should be done out of our relationship with God and not as a means of trying to get brownie points from Him to earn our salvation.

For me, being guilt-ridden is a 'red flag' that I may have an unconfessed sin. Sin brings a curse and obedience brings blessing. The constant companion of sinners is guilt. They're unable to escape it. Some may try a variety of ways to ignore it, but deep down inside they know their lives are not right. I make mistakes on occasion just like everybody else, and I often ask God to search my heart for any hidden sins that I may have, which may be destructive to my relationship with God. Believers don't live under guilt and condemnation anymore as Jesus has removed and washed their sins away along with the guilt that accompanies them.

Your compliance with rule-keeping may extend to guarding against usury, aka 'loan-sharking' - supposedly banned by Muslim doctrine, as it is by Christian doctrine. Riba may be prohibited under Sharia law, but the Muslim world has struggled with Riba for quite some time, religiously, morally and legally. Christian perspectives on lending in the modern lending arena have also changed radically over the centuries. Economic pressures eventually allowed for a loosening of religious and legal regulation.

I understand from your post that you're using your guilty emotion to know if you have been disobedient. That is purely subjective. Is it possible that you may be doing something that displeases God unknowingly ergo you don't feel any guilt?

This discussion will eventually bring us back to Sola Fide because what I'm getting at is the Law. If you don't have the Law, you can do what you like and only your own emotions determine what is wrong or right. And as you know, emotions differ in people.
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(14-09-2024, 10:36 AM)Hope Wrote:  Any proof to show if Jesus had used word Abba?
What is the full meaning of father?

a(1) : a male parent. (2) : a man who has begotten a child. also : a male animal who has sired an offspring.

As a Moslem..you should address Jesus as Isa ibn Maryam...when you call him Jesus you are submitting to the Bible  Big Grin

I am honoured to give you Christian education daily and I hope you will place your faith in Christianity one day

As others already answered, the most likely name Jesus used to address God would be 'Abba'(The Father), Abwoon or Abuna (Our Father) or Abbee (My father). He would have also used, Elaha (The God), Elahi (My God) or simply Eli (My God) referring God.
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(14-09-2024, 10:36 AM)Hope Wrote:  Any proof to show if Jesus had used word Abba?
What is the full meaning of father?

a(1) : a male parent. (2) : a man who has begotten a child. also : a male animal who has sired an offspring.

Good question.

No, academics today do not know the common noun used by Prophet Isa pbuh for God. There is also no proper noun for God in the Bible. The tetragrammaton used in the Bible doesn't come with vowels so Jewish scholars doesn't allow people to pronounce it. 

Why? Wallahu alam.

Abb is a title, very similar to Rabb, sounding almost alike.
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(14-09-2024, 01:43 AM)S I M T A N Wrote:  You make a 'valid' point. Sometimes we imagine ourselves to be morally superior to God because we are more accepting of sin than He is. Why can't God be more tolerant of people's mistakes as we are? you wonder. The simple reason is that God is not like us. The fact that we are able to tolerate sin in others - and especially in ourselves - is not proof of our godliness but actually evidence of our ungodliness.

God is wholly different from us. God's holiness means that He is separate from everything - incl sin. The God revealed in the OT is above and beyond any contact with evil: "Your eyes are too pure to approve evil. And You cannot look on wickedness with favor" (Hab 1:13). Of all the attributes that create a distance between God and us, it is His zero tolerance for sin of any kind that makes Him wholly different from us. The holiness or separateness of God creates a moral distance between the Creator and us that began in the Garden of Eden and extends into our lives today. You said, however, there's no distance.

Yes, God is unlike us. But Jesus taught people to ask God to be as forgiving to us, like how we are forgiving towards one another. That prayer is inconsequential if what you say about God is true.
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(14-09-2024, 12:15 AM)Hi Hope Wrote:  It is a Joke. Every one can give fatwa 🙄
No standard.No scholars.🥹
Will have 45000 answers

Why 
Is it because there is no 
One night stand? No adultery allow?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(14-09-2024, 11:02 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Why 
Is it because there is no 
One night stand? No adultery allow?

There. Sex again in your head.

Why ah?
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(14-09-2024, 11:02 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  There. Sex again in your head.

Why ah?

Learn from your Quran

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(14-09-2024, 11:03 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Learn from your Quran

Wah!

I didn't know you read the Quran. 

Awesome!
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(14-09-2024, 11:07 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Wah!

I didn't know you read the Quran. 

Awesome!

So u admit it’s true lol

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(14-09-2024, 11:09 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  So u admit it’s true lol

Its true you're lying.
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(14-09-2024, 11:09 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  So u admit it’s true lol
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(14-09-2024, 11:11 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  It’s true you're lying.
You refuse to accept truth

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(14-09-2024, 11:02 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Why 
Is it because there is no 
One night stand? No adultery allow?

Bible allows adultery?
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(14-09-2024, 10:36 AM)Hope Wrote:  Any proof to show if Jesus had used word Abba?
What is the full meaning of father?

a(1) : a male parent. (2) : a man who has begotten a child. also : a male animal who has sired an offspring.

No mention God

You just have to know that the Christian God has up to 24 names while the Islamic God has up to 99 names.. Big Grin
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(14-09-2024, 11:14 AM)Hope Wrote:  Bible allows adultery?

Islam allows nikah mutah to be use as a form of prostitution
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(14-09-2024, 11:14 AM)Hope Wrote:  Bible allows adultery?
Where got dont anyhow say
Is in the Ten Commandments
Thou shalt not commit adultery
Got to repent

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(14-09-2024, 11:13 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  You refuse to accept truth

You said you learn ons from the Quran.

You're lying.
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(14-09-2024, 11:14 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You just have to know that the Christian God has up to 24 names while the Islamic God has up to 99 names.. Big Grin

99 names are attributes 

The Beneficent
The Merciful
The Eternal Lord
The Most Sacred
The embodiment of Peace
The Infuser of Faith
The Preserver of Safety
All Mighty
The Compeller, The Restorer
The Supreme, The Majestic
The Creator, The Maker
The Evolver
The Fashioner
The Great Forgiver
The All-Prevailing One
The Supreme Bestower
The Provider
The Supreme Solver
The All-Knowing
The Withholder
The Extender
The Reducer
The Exalter, The Elevator
The Honourer, The Bestower
The Dishonourer, The Humiliator
The All-Hearing
The All-Seeing
The Impartial Judge
The Utterly Just
The Subtle One, The Most Gentle
The All-Aware
The Most Forbearing
The Magnificent, The Supreme
The Great Forgiver
The Most Appreciative
The Most High, The Exalted
The Preserver, The All-Heedful and All-Protecting
The Preserver
The Sustainer
The Reckoner
The Majestic
The Most Generous, The Most Esteemed
The Watchful
The Responsive One
The All-Encompassing, the Boundless
The All-Wise
The Most Loving
The Glorious, The Most Honorable
The Infuser of New Life
The All Observing Witnessing
The Absolute Truth
The Trustee, The Disposer of Affairs
The All-Strong
The Firm, The Steadfast
The Protecting Associatey
The Praiseworthy
The All-Enumerating, The Counter
The Originator, The Initiator
The Restorer, The Reinstater
The Giver of Life
The Inflicter of Death
The Ever-Living
The Sustainer, The Self-Subsisting
The Perceiver
The Illustrious, the Magnificent
The One
The Unique, The Only One
The Eternal, Satisfier of Needs
The Omnipotent One
The Powerful
The Expediter, The Promoter
The Delayer
The First
The Last
The Manifest
The Hidden One, Knower of the Hidden
The Governor, The Patron
The Self Exalted
The Source of All Goodness
The Ever-Pardoning, The Relenting
The Avenger
The Pardoner
The Most Kind
Master of the Kingdom, Owner of the Dominion
Possessor of Glory and Honour, Lord of Majesty and Generosity
The Just One
The Gatherer, the Uniter
The Self-Sufficient, The Wealthy
The Enricher
The Withholder
The Distresser
The Propitious, the Benefactor
The Light, The Illuminator
The Guide
The Incomparable Originator
The Everlasting
The Inheritor, The Heir
The Guide, Infallible Teacher
The Forbearing, The Patient
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(14-09-2024, 11:19 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You said you learn ons from the Quran.

You're lying.

Found  in utube  got lies meh

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(14-09-2024, 11:24 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Found  in utube  got lies meh

If its on utube, it must be true.

LOL
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(14-09-2024, 11:15 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Islam allows nikah mutah to be use as a form of prostitution
It is only in Shia culture.Shia are makeup about 10% of whole Muslim world.
No prostitution in Christian countries?
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(14-09-2024, 11:27 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If it’s on utube, it must be true.

LOL

lol

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(14-09-2024, 11:24 AM)Hope Wrote:  99 names are attributes 

The Beneficent
The Merciful
The Eternal Lord
The Most Sacred
The embodiment of Peace
The Infuser of Faith
The Preserver of Safety
All Mighty
The Compeller, The Restorer
The Supreme, The Majestic
The Creator, The Maker
The Evolver
The Fashioner
The Great Forgiver
The All-Prevailing One
The Supreme Bestower
The Provider
The Supreme Solver
The All-Knowing
The Withholder
The Extender
The Reducer
The Exalter, The Elevator
The Honourer, The Bestower
The Dishonourer, The Humiliator
The All-Hearing
The All-Seeing
The Impartial Judge
The Utterly Just
The Subtle One, The Most Gentle
The All-Aware
The Most Forbearing
The Magnificent, The Supreme
The Great Forgiver
The Most Appreciative
The Most High, The Exalted
The Preserver, The All-Heedful and All-Protecting
The Preserver
The Sustainer
The Reckoner
The Majestic
The Most Generous, The Most Esteemed
The Watchful
The Responsive One
The All-Encompassing, the Boundless
The All-Wise
The Most Loving
The Glorious, The Most Honorable
The Infuser of New Life
The All Observing Witnessing
The Absolute Truth
The Trustee, The Disposer of Affairs
The All-Strong
The Firm, The Steadfast
The Protecting Associatey
The Praiseworthy
The All-Enumerating, The Counter
The Originator, The Initiator
The Restorer, The Reinstater
The Giver of Life
The Inflicter of Death
The Ever-Living
The Sustainer, The Self-Subsisting
The Perceiver
The Illustrious, the Magnificent
The One
The Unique, The Only One
The Eternal, Satisfier of Needs
The Omnipotent One
The Powerful
The Expediter, The Promoter
The Delayer
The First
The Last
The Manifest
The Hidden One, Knower of the Hidden
The Governor, The Patron
The Self Exalted
The Source of All Goodness
The Ever-Pardoning, The Relenting
The Avenger
The Pardoner
The Most Kind
Master of the Kingdom, Owner of the Dominion
Possessor of Glory and Honour, Lord of Majesty and Generosity
The Just One
The Gatherer, the Uniter
The Self-Sufficient, The Wealthy
The Enricher
The Withholder
The Distresser
The Propitious, the Benefactor
The Light, The Illuminator
The Guide
The Incomparable Originator
The Everlasting
The Inheritor, The Heir
The Guide, Infallible Teacher
The Forbearing, The Patient

You pray to a God that has 99 names but I thought oneness should be associated with only one name...why so many names? Big Grin
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(14-09-2024, 11:31 AM)Hope Wrote:  It is only in Shia culture.Shia are makeup about 10% of whole Muslim world.
No prostitution in Christian countries?

Thank you for admitting that Islam allows prostitution...there is nothing in our doctrines to suggest that prostitution is allowed...

When a moslem has a contract with a prostitute...that is adultery!

There are prostitution in every countries...but it has nothing to do with religion!
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(13-09-2024, 03:38 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I escorted some ants out from my home...is this a good deed?
The mosquito preyed on me but I decided to leave it alone...is this a good deed?

How about encountering a python 
N tell it come come let’s be friend?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(14-09-2024, 11:47 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  How about encountering a python 
N tell it come come let’s be friend?

Rotfl Tell the lion to be friend..maybe the Lion will not bite!
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(14-09-2024, 11:47 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  How about encountering a python 
N tell it come come let’s be friend?

Abdul says don believe the ons on utube...but a few moments later, his friend admitted ons and adultery....so he fled fast  Big Grin
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