Chips war? Trade war? China hitting back liao!
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天天硬事2239期—01 美媒主持人哀叹中国年轻人积极向上美国人自甘堕落,实质上素质教育是上世纪公知的最大骗局 02 美国商务部长呐喊美国芯片该立法优先美国生产,美国回收芯片产业已经开始
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(19-07-2022, 01:25 PM)cityhantam Wrote:  https://finance.sina.com.cn/tech/it/2022...9822.shtml

英特尔等多家美国芯片商寻求美政府放松对华投资限制

据美国政治新闻网站POLITICO 7月18日报道,包括英特尔在内的多家美国芯片制造商正在与美国政府官员沟通,希望在拟定的芯片法案中放开部分在华业务。据报道,多位知情人士透露,英特尔与美国半导体行业协会(SIA)正在游说美国政府官员,希望减少对华设置所谓“护栏”,以允许这些半导体公司在华发展。SIA的成员还包括AMD、博通、高通等企业。报道指出,草案具体细则仍在谈判中,可能会阻止接受该法案资助的公司在中国建立或扩大先进半导体设施。

  另据《华尔街日报》,美国参议院预计最早于本周二对芯片法案进行程序性投票,该法案旨在投资约520亿美元以振兴美国半导体行业。

  对于美国国会推出的此类法案,中国外交部发言人此前曾回应称,美国怎么发展是美国自己的事,作为世界头号经济体,美方应该做的,是维护包括半导体产业在内的全球产业链、供应链稳定,而不是动不动拿中国说事,把中国当假想敌。


7月6日,中国外交部发言人赵立坚在回应芯片产业相关问题时表示,在当前全球化背景下,美方一再将科技和经贸问题政治化、工具化、意识形态化,对别国搞技术封锁、技术脱钩,这只会让其他国家更加警醒在技术上一味依靠美国行不通,这也将促使各国加快实现科技自主自立自强。

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(23-07-2022, 06:32 PM)kokee Wrote:  all these clown, TSMC almost 10 yrs ago already done it, simple thing yet need a taiwanese steal their own technology for them, 1.4B people can go & eat shit, china is so far behind taiwan in almost all aspect of life.
freedom & human right, make all these differences!
all these slavery in china cant think outside the box or evaporate from china!!






中国芯片重大突破?别搞笑了,自己做梦吧



watch & understand yourself, can a 7 nm IC made without ASML EUV machine?
as what claimed by comie dogs here!
who will give order to SMIC on such 7 nm? china military? huawei?
If SMIC can make it, super breakthru, why keep so secretive & try not to annouce? If all know china, their people & company character, will they do so?





Can You Do 7nm Chips Without EUV?


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(24-07-2022, 12:08 PM)cityhantam Wrote:  
天天硬事2239期—01 美媒主持人哀叹中国年轻人积极向上美国人自甘堕落,实质上素质教育是上世纪公知的最大骗局 02 美国商务部长呐喊美国芯片该立法优先美国生产,美国回收芯片产业已经开始
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#35


7纳米消息一出,我国的芯片稳了
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半导体三大趋势!英特尔挖角联发科,抗衡台积电三星
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中美芯片競爭即將進入最關鍵階段!被美國抑制下去,還是站上新風口起飛?
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美國制裁,炸出了中芯國際7nm芯片
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(25-07-2022, 06:57 PM)kokee Wrote:  watch & understand yourself, can a 7 nm IC made without ASML EUV machine?
as what claimed by comie dogs here!
who will give order to SMIC on such 7 nm? china military? huawei?
If SMIC can make it, super breakthru, why keep so secretive & try not to annouce? If all know china, their people & company character, will they do so?





Can You Do 7nm Chips Without EUV?



中國芯片突破七奈米!小粉紅徒手刻出來,台積電都嚇壞了;明年突破一奈米,中芯前總裁遭逮捕


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(28-07-2022, 07:09 PM)cityhantam Wrote:  

美國制裁,炸出了中芯國際7nm芯片
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#41

waiting for Huawei to report better profit then..

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/28/huaweis-...lunge.html
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#42


220808 -1【台湾半导体噩梦来了】【郭台铭芯片加工厂,收到订单取消通知】【寒梅视角】
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(28-07-2022, 08:26 PM)revealer Wrote:  waiting for Huawei to report better profit then..

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/29/intel-st...treet.html

Intel stock slumps 8% after poor earnings show softening demand for PCs

Intel stocks fell 8% Friday after the chipmaker reported disappointing second-quarter earnings that missed on the top and bottom lines.

Intel’s revenue declined 22% year over year and missed consensus by 14%, the company’s largest top-line disappointment since 1999, according to Refinitiv data.
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#44

Waiting for SK on their chip 4 decision. 
Tug of war.
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#45

http://mp.cnfol.com/26496/article/165995...68507.html

叫嚣给大陆人赏饭吃,郭台铭跪舔美国出走海外,如今惨遭苹果抛弃

有点钱就飘了” ,用这句话形容郭台铭再合适不过。

凭借遍布大江南北的富士康和拿到手软的苹果订单,郭台铭收割了巨额财富,资产也水涨船高,不仅旗下鸿海公司产值连续3年稳居台湾最大的民营制造业企业。2019年郭台铭更是以63亿美元身价一跃成为台湾首富。

金钱让郭台铭开始膨胀,他不仅在节目中发表狂言妄语:“富士康来大陆建厂是给大陆人赏饭吃”,还接连“捅刀”华为,将国内工厂转移到印度。

一、 叫嚣 “大陆离不开富士康”,海外投资千亿却“打水漂”

创业50余年,郭台铭从一名生产塑料产品的小老板,成为了世界知名的代工巨头富士康的掌舵人。不可否认,正是国内的市场环境和人口红利成就了郭台铭的商业帝国,根据鸿海财报,郭台铭每年从大陆赚近4000亿,远超海外营收,然而他却扬言是富士康养活了大陆:“大陆离不开富士康,如果受到了大陆的威胁,富士康有能力随时随地转移生产基地。”

近年来,中国开始产业升级,劳动力成本也随之增加。为了维持利润,苹果首席执行官库克决定将部分生产线迁往劳动力廉价的东南亚、印度。富士康作为苹果的御用代工厂,为了跟随“老大哥”的脚步,郭台铭关闭国内部分工厂和生产线,宣称将花费50亿元在印度开设十家工厂。

然而事情发展并没有想象中那般顺利。建设的十家工厂只有两家才能投入生产,由于印度劳动力素质远不及国内,这两座工厂也难以达到郭台铭的生产预期,根本无法满足苹果的生产需求。

然而事情发展并没有想象中那般顺利。建设的十家工厂只有两家才能投入生产,由于印度劳动力素质远不及国内,这两座工厂也难以达到郭台铭的生产预期,根本无法满足苹果的生产需求。

屋漏偏逢连夜雨,受挫的郭台铭在发达国家也吃了瘪。报道显示,郭台铭宣布将投资100亿美元,把富士康超级工厂搬到美国威斯康辛州。有人赶着来美国送钱,特朗普也乐开了花,甚至承诺将提供百亿投资。然而工厂都快建成了,也没看到100亿的影子,缺乏后续投资,厂房也就成了“烂尾楼”。

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国产强势而起,富士康成“弃子”

“富士康一走,大陆的GDP就会下降。”在郭台铭看来,苹果一旦撤出中国市场,将会引起大批企业倒闭的现象。而不少网友则认为,苹果的离开,受到影响最大的将会是郭台铭的富士康。

更何况国内蓝海尚可观,富士康出走等同于主动让出市场“高地”,其他代工厂就会迅速弥补这一空缺。接了苹果几个大单之后,“立讯精密”在短短两年内营收达到500亿,比亚迪也承接了部分苹果生产链,股权暴涨10%。

两头都不讨好下,富士康想要稳坐“国内代工厂第一交椅”恐怕没那么容易。当初郭台铭扬言国内离不开富士康,如今他可能要再思量思量了

而在富士康撤离中国几年内,国内品牌强势崛起。当初与美国矛盾不断升级,华为遭到美芯片断供。郭台铭第一时间就宣布了终止与华为的合作,强制停止了华为的供应链,这让其雪上加霜。还好华为留有“后手”,将旗下生产线合作交给了国内比亚迪。

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贴钱都招不到人,回归没那么容易


在国外四处碰壁的郭台铭幡然醒悟,决定将生产线再搬回国内,然而回归之路并不如离开时走得那么轻松。

当初富士康为了关停国内工厂,裁掉34万员工,如今为了召回工人更是宣布将实行补贴制度,招一个人最高可补贴过万,现实却是内地的大部分工人难以再接受富士康,加之竞争对手“蓝思科技”的压力,很难再达到预想的规模。
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#46

https://tw.news.yahoo.com/%E5%8F%B0%E6%B...01944.html

美國聯邦眾議院議長裴洛西3日結束訪台行程,中國解放軍隨即於4日展開實彈軍演,引發各界擔憂台海局勢。對此,《美麗島電子報》董事長吳子嘉於節目《董事長開講》中透露,身在捷克的鴻海創辦人郭台銘日前和他通話時提到,郭台銘正在和BNT談在台灣生產,但對方稱因台海局勢緊張,所以不能來台設廠,「郭董打給我的時候,他是非常的憤怒。」

吳子嘉表示,台灣不要以為美國跟自己很好,現在台海局勢緊張,美國商務部長雷蒙多(Gina Raimondo)就直接說台灣太不安全,美國跟台積電買半導體非常不安全,「美國商務部長講這個屁話,他還跟你一起打仗,屁事都沒有。」


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吳子嘉指出,現在台灣要面對最痛苦的就是訂單、投資沒有了,其實中國和美國關心台灣也只有1件事情,就是台灣的半導體生產,台灣的重要性就是台積電,但現在台積電也嚇昏了,「台積電怕老共怕死了,現在通通一片混亂。」
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#47


欧盟韩国不满美国,指控美国科技补贴,违反国际法,科技巨头遭殃
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#48


天天硬事2311期——01 美国宣布限制对最先进芯片技术和软件出口,表面是对抗中国实质上是对韩国和台湾下手 02 中国雷军创造机器人铁大被嘲讽不如美国波士顿动力和特斯拉,但从只能看到开始参与了
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【獨家爆料「正」在挖】美晶片法案各國避之唯恐不及 蔡英文「賣台積電」求榮? 張忠謀劉德音狠批直搖頭! @正常發揮 20220816精華版
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#51


美國芯片法案落地,我還真不擔心芯片,我擔心“日本陷阱”@盧克說LUKE Channel
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#52

(17-08-2022, 07:13 PM)kokee Wrote:  as above, all these know nut comie dogs here like nothing happen, still can bark lies about china IC industry!
with all the US banned, immediately probably 2000 china IC related company closed down immediately due to totally not operated anymore without US hardware & software!
wait for a bit longer, likely almost all will have to stop!!
comie dogs can continue your BS here, norm, in all these dogs posts & threads, lies & BS!




芯片海嘯登場!中芯國際只是冰山一角!大陸2000家IC設計公司直接癱瘓!高端芯片製造設備全部被封鎖!高技術人才紛紛撤退!晶片業危機連環爆!




as above, 2000 or more IC company in china going to closed down easily with US ban all hardware & software sale to china! SMIC will be spared? my foot! 7 nm, wet dream by comie dogs here 7/24 & spam lies like insane dogs here day & night!
look at SMIC share price recently after the BS 7 nm, down & down! who F care fake news?
sale up? export up? my foot, share price down for what?

IC over supply, price down for low end IC like all the china made & SMIC!
TSMC advanced IC still shortage.
hard for china to produce 14 nm & below, even has difficulty in 28 nm & low yield in future!



大陸芯片遭受全面打擊!客戶紛紛取消中芯訂單!一夜市值跌超6%!多款芯片價格雪崩 ! 70% 以上訂單來自內循環,海外根本沒有訂單!

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#53


台灣犯了「荷蘭病」?韓媒示警Chip 4恐催毀台灣半導體製造!【#風向龍鳳配】
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(20-08-2022, 10:52 AM)kokee Wrote:  as above, 2000 or more IC company in china going to closed down easily with US ban all hardware & software sale to china! SMIC will be spared? my foot! 7 nm, wet dream by comie dogs here 7/24 & spam lies like insane dogs here day & night!
look at SMIC share price recently after the BS 7 nm, down & down! who F care fake news?
sale up? export up? my foot, share price down for what?

IC over supply, price down for low end IC like all the china made & SMIC!
TSMC advanced IC still shortage.
hard for china to produce 14 nm & below, even has difficulty in 28 nm & low yield in future!



大陸芯片遭受全面打擊!客戶紛紛取消中芯訂單!一夜市值跌超6%!多款芯片價格雪崩 ! 70% 以上訂單來自內循環,海外根本沒有訂單!


Bankrupt loser kokee howling jealous 
Kokee the scumbags 

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Kokee go take medication 

National scum Shameless bankrupt Pitiful jealous kokee howling scare panic desperate dog losing the slave kokee
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#55


美媒:芯片法犯大错,中国高科技制造强劲
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#56

With current inflating, still chip shortage,, so how
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#57

(20-08-2022, 10:52 AM)kokee Wrote:  as above, 2000 or more IC company in china going to closed down easily with US ban all hardware & software sale to china! SMIC will be spared? my foot! 7 nm, wet dream by comie dogs here 7/24 & spam lies like insane dogs here day & night!
look at SMIC share price recently after the BS 7 nm, down & down! who F care fake news?
sale up? export up? my foot, share price down for what?

IC over supply, price down for low end IC like all the china made & SMIC!
TSMC advanced IC still shortage.
hard for china to produce 14 nm & below, even has difficulty in 28 nm & low yield in future!



大陸芯片遭受全面打擊!客戶紛紛取消中芯訂單!一夜市值跌超6%!多款芯片價格雪崩 ! 70% 以上訂單來自內循環,海外根本沒有訂單!



as above, comie dogs here bark lies & BS about SMIC 7 nm but SMIC share price plunges & plunges after comie dogs lies!
Instead US IC company share price keep surging recently, the truth & fact is here!
TSMC mass production 3 nm soon, accordingly yield >80% is much much better than SMIC 14 nm today, super low yield till today, with ban on US equipment, the yield will plunge much lower!

US IC company share price shoot up but china SMIC share price plunge 6%, why? obvious!




美國晶片股大漲!台積電擬加碼在美設3奈米廠


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(20-08-2022, 10:55 AM)Omnipresent88 Wrote:  Bankrupt loser kokee howling jealous 
Kokee the scumbags 

Who let the slave kokee out woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof 

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Kokee go take medication 

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#59


DRAM教父高啟全喊話 大陸半導體並不弱 日後靠中低階突圍!?│@金臨天下 20220818
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#60

Reality check, 3nm production is just started by Samsung
Market most advance mature chip in market is still 5nm and 7nm.

https://www.zdnet.com › article › strong-demand-for-5nm-chips-sees-tsmc-deliver-solid-q4-results
Strong demand for 5nm chips sees TSMC deliver solid Q4 results
13 Jan 2022Shipments of 5nm accounted for 23% of total revenue, an increase from the 18% in the previous quarter, while 7nm accounted for 27%, which is seven percentage points lower than 3Q21.

https://www.howtogeek.com › 755895 › what-is-a-5nm-chip-and-why-is-5nm-so-important
What Is a 5nm Chip, and Why Is 5nm So Important? - How-To Geek
29 Sep 2021Intel 5nm processors are coming too, but it's expected to take a while. The company's desktop processors are expected to come off 14nm and move to 10nm with Alder Lake in late 2021 or early 2022. After that, a 7nm process is expected in late 2022 or 2023, and then in 2024 there could be an Intel 5nm processor .

Anyway Intel 10nm is known to better than TSMC and Samsung 10nm,
However Intel 7nm has high defect rate.

The sign show SMIC though yet to commercialize 7nm in mass , is not far behind Intel.

Only 6 or 7 foundry capable of doing 14nm level.
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