Christian history is changing.. according to "peaceful ppl"
31-12-2023, 12:52 PM
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31-12-2023, 01:11 PM
(31-12-2023, 12:59 PM)Simplemen Wrote: No he didn't. None of his disciples also ever said he said it.
It was only after his death that other ppl wrote that he said it.
fark you
you dont spread fake gospel
you dont read the bible
you dont any how proclaim your fake finding
57“You are not yet fifty years old,” they said to him, “and you have seen Abraham!”
58“Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” 59At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.
31-12-2023, 01:13 PM
(31-12-2023, 01:11 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: fark you
you dont spread fake gospel
you dont read the bible
you dont any how proclaim your fake finding
57“You are not yet fifty years old,” they said to him, “and you have seen Abraham!”
58“Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” 59At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.
But who wrote it & when was it written?
31-12-2023, 01:16 PM
31-12-2023, 01:34 PM
(31-12-2023, 01:16 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: already in the book
ask the jews
it is written in Hebrew
Hmm this one is iffy
Most ppl agree it was originally written in Aramaic / Greek
Jesus spoke Aramaic
And the people of that time were Hellenistic ie they would have spoken Greek, practised Greek customs, traditions & religion for several generations
31-12-2023, 01:41 PM
(31-12-2023, 01:34 PM)Simplemen Wrote: Hmm this one is iffy
Most ppl agree it was originally written in Aramaic / Greek
Jesus spoke Aramaic
And the people of that time were Hellenistic ie they would have spoken Greek, practised Greek customs, traditions & religion for several generations
Most ppl agree it was originally written in Aramaic / Greek and Hebrew
Jesus spoke Aramaic.... It is reasonable to assume that Jesus was well versed in Hebrew for religious purposes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_of_Jesus
31-12-2023, 02:56 PM
No weapons that forms against me shall prosper
No tongue that rises against me I shall condemn
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31-12-2023, 03:00 PM
(31-12-2023, 12:52 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: I AM. (fullstop)
And no one ever asked him what he is? I cannot imagine someone going around telling others "I am" without people thinking he's a lunatic
Ignore List: Oyk
31-12-2023, 03:11 PM
singlion also use IAM often meaning IAM bombarded into existence in 3_D at 22 trillion instances a sec by GreaterConsciousness. Black matter has limitless Energy
31-12-2023, 03:15 PM
Yahweh is just a colonel not even a general
31-12-2023, 03:29 PM
No weapons that forms against me shall prosper
No tongue that rises against me I shall condemn
☝️
31-12-2023, 04:23 PM
(31-12-2023, 01:16 PM)listen to see what a Jew is telling about all the religions .According to Torah Christian has no rights to live😂
grotesqueness Wrote: already in the book
ask the jews
it is written in Hebrew
https://youtube.com/shorts/fEvqgRGBl2M?s...TP09c9vZbE
31-12-2023, 04:52 PM
correct his name is RABBI YOSEF MIZRACHI
31-12-2023, 04:57 PM
31-12-2023, 04:57 PM
(31-12-2023, 06:57 AM)Huliwang Wrote: Go watch the sky quietly lah. Seven early eight early barking satan for F...k.
I'm watching the sky lah! You should also lah! Jesus Christ is coming back liao lah! Don't say no warning hor! Believe in Jesus and you will be saved lah! Your family also lah! Or else...
31-12-2023, 04:58 PM
(31-12-2023, 03:29 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: https://youtube.com/shorts/eRGMcl5K0dY?s...-L4BrJxH3bIsn’t a contradiction in your teachings/ beliefs?
31-12-2023, 05:16 PM
(31-12-2023, 03:29 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: https://youtube.com/shorts/eRGMcl5K0dY?s...4BrJxH3bZ2
Each of the 4 horses carries a prophetic message lah! Can you interpret the messages leh?
31-12-2023, 05:20 PM
(31-12-2023, 04:23 PM)Hope Wrote: https://youtube.com/shorts/fEvqgRGBl2M?s...TP09c9vZbEWell
I am NOT Surprised
cause
there are christian and there are christian
there are muslim and there are muslim
there are Buddhism and there are Buddhism
Jew are God chosen people
but it is also the Jew who called for the crucifixion of Lord Jesus
31-12-2023, 05:35 PM
(31-12-2023, 05:20 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: Well
I am NOT Surprised
cause
there are christian and there are christian
there are muslim and there are muslim
there are Buddhism and there are Buddhism
Jew are God chosen people
but it is also the Jew who called for the crucifixion of Lord Jesus
Because the Jews rejected Jesus as the promised Messiah lah! They are still waiting lah!
31-12-2023, 05:48 PM
(31-12-2023, 01:41 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: Most ppl agree it was originally written in Aramaic / Greek and Hebrew
Jesus spoke Aramaic.... It is reasonable to assume that Jesus was well versed in Hebrew for religious purposes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_of_Jesus
You do know that Wikipedia is not to be taken as authoritative source right?
Anyway, most scholars agree that Jesus spoke Aramaic as his native language, although he could have understood Hebrew because at that time, Hebrew was a language of the old scriptures highly guarded by the priests
But the Gospel of John was not originally written in Hebrew, it was written in Aramaic using Greek alphabets decades after Jesus' death. Neither was it conclusively written by a specfic person named "John". Exactly who wrote it is still uncertain.
Given these uncertainties, one cannot be certain that Jesus had really said he is god since a counter argument can be made that his own disciples never said he was god.
31-12-2023, 05:53 PM
(31-12-2023, 01:41 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: Most ppl agree it was originally written in Aramaic / Greek and Hebrew
Jesus spoke Aramaic.... It is reasonable to assume that Jesus was well versed in Hebrew for religious purposes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_of_Jesus
(31-12-2023, 05:48 PM)Simplemen Wrote: You do know that Wikipedia is not to be taken as authoritative source right?
Anyway, most scholars agree that Jesus spoke Aramaic as his native language, although he could have understood Hebrew because at that time, Hebrew was a language of the old scriptures highly guarded by the priests
But the Gospel of John was not originally written in Hebrew, it was written in Aramaic using Greek alphabets decades after Jesus' death. Neither was it conclusively written by a specfic person named "John". Exactly who wrote it is still uncertain.
Given these uncertainties, one cannot be certain that Jesus had really said he is god since a counter argument can be made that his own disciples never said he was god.
The message itself is more important than who wrote it lah! It's about Jesus and God's salvation for mankind lah! Human beings will make mistakes lah!
31-12-2023, 06:08 PM
(31-12-2023, 05:20 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: Well
I am NOT Surprised
cause
there are christian and there are christian
there are muslim and there are muslim
there are Buddhism and there are Buddhism
Jew are God chosen people
but it is also the Jew who called for the crucifixion of Lord Jesus
Christians say Jesus is Son of God
Muslims say Jesus is Messenger of God
Jews say none of the above
Its ok, everyone has his own opinion
The Israelites (not to be confused with Israelis or Jews today) were chosen to receive the divine guidance from God. It was conditional upon them obeying God and staying righteous. But that is relegated to history.
Looking at Israelis today, stealing, looting, killing, mocking their victims openly, destroying homes, churches & mosques, it makes your Chosen People title look foolish. Even the Vatican reject the idea of any particular group being the chosen people.
31-12-2023, 06:13 PM
(31-12-2023, 05:53 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: The message itself is more important than who wrote it lah! It's about Jesus and God's salvation for mankind lah! Human beings will make mistakes lah!
Well if you're not interested to know who wrote or said something, then you can be subjected to misinformation
31-12-2023, 07:32 PM
(31-12-2023, 05:16 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: Each of the 4 horses carries a prophetic message lah! Can you interpret the messages leh?https://youtu.be/HTPaMAZ-kc0?si=j9MHBeVShRCP1_6j
No weapons that forms against me shall prosper
No tongue that rises against me I shall condemn
☝️
24-02-2024, 12:49 PM
(30-12-2023, 11:47 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: christian history and christian are not changing
the people is why? because we all ate the apple
So what type of "apple" did those X'tians ate ?
I only know age old health wisdom about an Apple a Day keeps the doctor away.
You've got friendly neighbours? Grow Up! - 李光耀 2013
24-02-2024, 02:36 PM
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24-02-2024, 03:23 PM
Didn't eat apple for decades. Very dirty fruits actually
24-02-2024, 03:24 PM
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