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(15-10-2021, 10:22 AM)forum456 Wrote: now dine-in for 2 and unvax banned from malls.
how to keep infection rate and deaths lower than current level ?
It was a mistake to kept borders open and let in delta.
It was a mistake to relax the rules while case are still high.
Then as cases rise only then the throttle down rrestrictions it is now too late.
That is why we are in the current state due to all the avoidable errors earlier.
For myself j am just staying home to be safe unfortunately many do not have this option.
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(15-10-2021, 10:26 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: It was a mistake to kept borders open and let in delta.
It was a mistake to relax the rules while case are still high.
Then as cases rise only then the throttle down bug it us too late.
That is why we are in the current state due to all the avoidable errors earlier.
you are pointing out past mistakes and no solution.
what step should the govt take now to lower the infection and death ?
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(15-10-2021, 09:40 AM)Huliwang Wrote: Looks like you still dun get the message "living with covid" announced on last Saturday. Covid is not deadly, it is just like flu when you start living with it. Same like flu, you dun send everyone catching a flu to hospital. Doctor will just give MC and you rest at home and dun cycle around with your foldable bike. Same like flu, only serious covid case as verified by doctor will be hospitalized and same like flu some will die. So just relax, go take your 3rd mRNA and you shud be ok........ 
Those who are tested positive and are mildly sick, should be sent to hospitals or a medical center, e.g. make do 'hospital' in Expo Halls, where there will be doctors and nurses to attend to them for a speedy recovery....
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I worry this rules can be follow by everyone and making the trend slightly faster as we are see now...
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(15-10-2021, 10:18 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: My proposal has always been to keep infection rate and deaths down so that there is sufficient capacity at hospital to give the best treatment for those infected.
Your proposal will take donkey years to achieve herd immunity. According to our PM we are looking to exit Covid by December 2021 or latest by April 2022. So with a population of 5 million, how many must get infected daily to achieve 85% infection for herd immunity by December 2021 and how many if it is April 2022?
If you are thinking of controlling with more restrictions and allowing only a trickle (say 1000 infection daily); that will 13.69 years and by then we will be eating tree barks and dead rats..........
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(15-10-2021, 09:46 AM)forum456 Wrote: if it is like flu, why PAP suspends physical meet people session since one month ago ?
It is terrible to note that the MIW had suspended MPS(Meet The People Session)just to ensure that they will not be infected with the very contagious covid-19 Delta/Black Fungus strain....After all the MIW are paid $16K per month for this service.
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(15-10-2021, 10:33 AM)debono Wrote: Those who are tested positive and are mildly sick, should be sent to hospitals or a medical center, e.g. make do 'hospital' in Expo Halls, where there will be doctors and nurses to attend to them for a speedy recovery....
Not enough space or professional nurses and doctors for large scale infections coming up soon when we head for exiting covid by december or april 2022.
Now health cares are already stretching until nearly break with just 120,000 infections so far. Wait till you see 1000,000 infections then talk.......
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(15-10-2021, 10:42 AM)Huliwang Wrote: Not enough space or professional nurses and doctors for large scale infections coming up soon when we head for exiting covid by december or april 2022.
Now health cares are already stretching until nearly break with just 120,000 infections so far. Wait till you see 1000,000 infections then talk....... 
Those who are tested positive, shouldn't be staying at home, cos there will not be any medical personnel to oversea the infected ones. It may become more acute if they are not properly supervised, and may pass on the virus to family members...
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(15-10-2021, 10:18 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: My proposal has always been to keep infection rate and deaths down so that there is sufficient capacity at hospital to give the best treatment for those infected.
if there is no proposed suggestion, it means current steps are the best solution ?
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(15-10-2021, 10:54 AM)debono Wrote: Those who are tested positive, shouldn't be staying at home, cos there will not be any medical personnel to oversea the infected ones. It may become more acute if they are not properly supervised, and may pass on the virus to family members... 
I already said when living with covid and most importantly is you have taken the full vaccination; getting infected with covid is just like catching a flu. You stay home and rest and if your covid is making you feeling very ill, then go see doctor like you catch serious flu. Doctors will check and see if you need to be docked in hospital. If needed, then doctor recommends and if not that bad, he give you MC and stay at home. We must rush with more infections to achieve 85% infections to qualify for herd immunity to exit Covid by April 2022 latest. Any more questions?.......
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The next step is reduced tests. Less cases.
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