[Hope]

This is the moment that you have waited for 

Long weekend bonus

[Ali Imran]

This is the moment that you have waited for 

Not really. I've asked the question before.

Why do you feel it's fine that someone else is made to pay for your mistake?

[Hope]

 haha..this is funny. He must be a ex Christian

May be. He must have gone through lot of confusions.Now He want to educate you all. Don’t know he was a pastor?

[pinkpanther]

Not really. I've asked the question before.

Why do you feel it's fine that someone else is made to pay for your mistake?

Why does it bother you that it is christ who paid for your sins?

[Hope]

And his second coming is truly a sign for the Hour. So have no doubt about it, and follow me. This is the Straight Path. [Surah Az-Zukhruf; 43:61]

[pinkpanther]

May be. He must have gone through lot of confusions.Now He want to educate you all. Don’t know he was a pastor?

Haha...he is not a pastor for sure..but he will make any pastor vomit blood with his questions...especially the Holy trinity ones

[Hope]

When Jesus came with clear proofs, he declared, “I have come to you with wisdom, and to clarify to you some of what you differ about. So fear Allah, and obey me. Surely Allah alone is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him alone. This is the Straight Path.” [Surah Az-Zukhruf; 43:63-64]

[Hope]

Then in the footsteps of these prophets, We sent Our messengers, and after them We sent Jesus, son of Mary, and granted him the Gospel, and instilled compassion and mercy into the hearts of his followers. As for monasticism, they made it up—We never ordained it for them—only seeking to please Allah, yet they did not even observe it strictly. So We rewarded those of them who were faithful. But most of them are rebellious. [Surah Al-Hadid; 57:27]

[Hope]

Jesus declared, “I am truly a servant of Allah. He has destined me to be given the Scripture and to be a prophet. He has made me a blessing wherever I go, and bid me to establish prayer and give alms-tax as long as I live, and to be kind to my mother. He has not made me arrogant or defiant. Peace be upon me the day I was born, the day I die, and the day I will be raised back to life!” That is Jesus, son of Mary. And this is a word of truth, about which they dispute. [Surah Maryam; 19:30-34]
 Jesus also declared, “Surely Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him alone. This is the Straight Path.” [Surah Maryam; 19:36]

[Hope]

And on Judgment Day Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?” He will answer, “Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say? If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it. You know what is hidden within me, but I do not know what is within You. Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen. [Surah Al-Ma’idah; 5:116]

And on Judgment Day Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?” He will answer, “Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say? If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it. You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You. Indeed, You alone are the Knower of all unseen. I never told them anything except what You ordered me to say: “Worship Allah—my Lord and your Lord!” And I was witness over them as long as I remained among them. But when You took me, You were the Witness over them—and You are a Witness over all things. [/size][/i][Surah Al-Ma’idah; 5:116-117][/font]

[Hope]

And on Judgment Day Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Remember My favour upon you and your mother: how I supported you with the holy spirit so you spoke to people in ˹your˺ infancy and adulthood. How I taught you writing, wisdom, the Torah, and the Gospel. How you moulded a bird from clay—by My Will—and breathed into it and it became a real bird—by My Will. How you healed the blind and the lepers—by My Will. How you brought the dead to life—by My Will. How I prevented the Children of Israel from harming you when you came to them with clear proofs and the disbelievers among them said, “This is nothing but pure magic.” [Surah Al-Ma’idah; 5:110]

[Hope]

Remember when the disciples asked, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Would your Lord be willing to send down to us a table spread with food from heaven?” Jesus answered, “Fear Allah if you are truly believers.” [Surah Al-Ma’idah; 5:112]

 Jesus, son of Mary, prayed, “O Allah, our Lord! Send us from heaven a table spread with food as a feast for us—the first and last of us—and as a sign from You. Provide for us! You are indeed the Best Provider.” [Surah Al-Ma’idah; 5:114]

[Ali Imran]

Why does it bother you that it is christ who paid for your sins?

Injustice bothers me a lot.

How can an innocent man be made to pay for your sins?

[Hope]

The Messiah, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger. ˹Many˺ messengers had ˹come and˺ gone before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They both ate food. See how We make the signs clear to them, yet see how they are deluded from the truth! [Surah Al-Ma’idah; 5:75]

[Lukongsimi]

https://youtube.com/shorts/tqsthuh7Zy8?s...Mi__Ln9trc

[pinkpanther]

Injustice bothers me a lot.

How can an innocent man be made to pay for your sins?

He is God...injustice doesn't even bother him!

[Lukongsimi]

https://youtube.com/shorts/SWyXO_GF0Pk?s...9VW_1pTx_T

[Ali Imran]

He is God...injustice doesn't even bother him!

Ok. But it sure bothers me.

We have a commandment from God to always be just and kind. We are to stand for justice even if it is against ourselves or our families.

So yes, it bothers me that you are happy to let an innocent man, a man I love, be tortured and humiliated and then killed just because you don't want to take responsibility for your own mistakes.

[pinkpanther]

You do fajar everyday?..flushing of the nose with water! Why? Because Satan lives inside the nose?

[Ali Imran]

You do fajar everyday?..flushing of the nose with water! Why? Because Satan lives inside the nose?

Is that injustice?

[Lukongsimi]

[Hope]

Listen to this atheist about wudu (Ablution)

https://youtube.com/shorts/nYgra1kLe7E?s...Aq3YLubtpN

[victortan]

Ok. But it sure bothers me.

We have a commandment from God to always be just and kind. We are to stand for justice even if it is against ourselves or our families.

So yes, it bothers me that you are happy to let an innocent man, a man I love, be tortured and humiliated and then killed just because you don't want to take responsibility for your own mistakes.

Your prophet is a general that kill thousand of people. Is he still compassionate.

[pinkpanther]

Is that injustice?

That is not injustice...that's a cock and bull story.
Why doesn't Allah live in your ears or eyes..why Satan has that special place in everyone's nose?

[RichDad]

The most important question we should ask ourselves is, why does God discriminate against the handicapped? Have you seen an amputee grow back his hands or legs despite being very pious.

If you haven't, why did He decide to heal some cancer patients (claimed by those who recovered) instead?

Exactly. But there is a clever retort... it is God's will. Humans won't understand.

Since it is God's, why pray for a recovery or miracle?

When a person believes, he/she loses the ability to think independently and critically.. even very smart and intelligent people. No point arguing with them.

Seen this time and again, even in this forum. Once a believer, no need to reason or think. Yet , strangely, when it comes to other religions, or politics or social issues , suddenly these same people can think and argue.

Go figure.

[pinkpanther]

Ok. But it sure bothers me.

We have a commandment from God to always be just and kind. We are to stand for justice even if it is against ourselves or our families.

So yes, it bothers me that you are happy to let an innocent man, a man I love, be tortured and humiliated and then killed just because you don't want to take responsibility for your own mistakes.

Why usa needs to bomb hiroshima and nagasaki during ww2? So many innocent people...? Shouldn't the Americans also take responsibilities for their own mistakes..
It is all for the greater good my friend!

[victortan]

That is not injustice...that's a cock and bull story.
Why doesn't Allah live in your ears or eyes..why Satan has that special place in everyone's nose?

Yes. Why god so powerful cannot defeat Satan and allow him to roam the earth. 
Those believer will said because we are sinner. 
But who make us. And who shd know the future that we will sin. Yet he want to make those thing that go against him.

[RichDad]

Ok. But it sure bothers me.

We have a commandment from God to always be just and kind. We are to stand for justice even if it is against ourselves or our families.

So yes, it bothers me that you are happy to let an innocent man, a man I love, be tortured and humiliated and then killed just because you don't want to take responsibility for your own mistakes.

Huh? How to take responsibility when we were not even born then? What mistakes did you n I do? Or innocent children n babies who were killed, raped, etc???

[RichDad]

Yes. Why god so powerful cannot defeat Satan and allow him to roam the earth. 
Those believer will said because we are sinner. 
But who make us. And who shd know the future that we will sin. Yet he want to make those thing that go against him.

Don't ask lah, you don't understand. It is God's will. ... lol

[Ali Imran]

Your prophet is a general that kill thousand of people. Is he still compassionate.

That would be a lie.

We know our prophet, better than we know our father.