[Ali Imran]

Is Hope Ali and Ali Hope?

I Hope not.

[Hope]

he knows only man wisdom bible

he did not know the actual truth of the bible

he full of hot air and man made wisdom

I think he was a pastor before.

[pinkpanther]

I Hope not.

You have no Hope

[Ali Imran]

I think he was a pastor before.

Errmm... sorry to interject. No, I was never a Christian.

[grotesqueness]

I think he was a pastor before.

yes 
pastor kong hee fa choi also goes to JAIL
also a pastor

[Lukongsimi]

Unbelievers like to argue about trinity
That doesn’t make them a pastor

[grotesqueness]

Unbelievers like to argue about trinity
That doesn’t make them a pastor

even if they are arguing  about trinity
they are arguing with man wisdom
and with man sinful wisdom
you cannot know it nor understand it all

[Ali Imran]

even if they are arguing  about trinity
they are arguing with man wisdom
and with man sinful wisdom
you cannot know it nor understand it all

I am not at all responsible for Adam eating that apple. I wasn't even there. But I get that I am just like Adam, easy to fall to sin, especially when I was young. I'm sure that's what you meant when you said we all ate the apple. So I understand you on that part.

Now, I ask you this. Why don't you believe that God can simply forgive sins?

[grotesqueness]

you cannot debate when.......
you have eaten the apple
i have eaten the apple
everyone has eaten the apple

and with that apple* you i and we all ate
(* the apple is something like an apple but not exactly an apple)
you  cannot debate the truth with among us, sinner, as we all ate the apple
and with sins, we are all poisoned to barely  know and accept the truth   

so SINS are NOT JUST WRONG DOINGS 
IT IS MORE THAN THAT

WE CANNOT DEBATE  the truth  WITH SINS in US ALL

in order to overcome this
you can either debate it with the creator or with those who seen the creator like jesus
or
SATAN

if you debate the truth with the SATAN like those Hitler and judas iscariot
the truth will be very interesting
if you debate the truth with the SATAN  you will know who is really is God
and you will reject and denial Him just like SATAN
SATAN made himself to be another god
his time is short



WE CANNOT DEBATE  the truth  WITH SINS in US ALL


good advice is you dont  debate the truth with the SATAN

I am not at all responsible for Adam eating that apple. I wasn't even there. But I get that I am just like Adam, easy to fall to sin, especially when I was young. I'm sure that's what you meant when you said we all ate the apple. So I understand you on that part.

Now, I ask you this. Why don't you believe that God can simply forgive sins?

your Quran description of SINS is INCOMPLETE
your Quran description of SINS is SUPERFICIAL 
your Quran description of SINS is a FAKE


the truth about sins in the bible is this

and with that apple* you i and we all ate
(* the apple is something like an apple but not exactly an apple)
you  cannot debate the truth with among us, sinner, as we all ate the apple
and with sins, we are all poisoned to barely  know and accept the truth   

so SINS are NOT JUST WRONG DOINGS 
IT IS MORE THAN THAT

[Ali Imran]

A person can be both a practicing Muslim and 100 percent Christian without denying core convictions of belief and practice. I think Ali can strive to be like one

Confirm he will get his 72 virgins

No, cannot. Our faith is irreconcilable. From Victortan's pov, I think he is an atheist, either we are both wrong, or only 1 of us is right. We both cannot be right.

If you ask me personally, I'm more into avoiding hell than dreaming of paradise or virgins. But hey, let's not belittle the rewards God has in store for some of us.

[Ali Imran]

your Quran description of SINS is INCOMPLETE
your Quran description of SINS is SUPERFICIAL 
your Quran description of SINS is a FAKE


the truth about sins in the bible is this

and with that apple* you i and we all ate
(* the apple is something like an apple but not exactly an apple)
you  cannot debate the truth with among us, sinner, as we all ate the apple
and with sins, we are all poisoned to barely  know and accept the truth   

so SINS are NOT JUST WRONG DOINGS 
IT IS MORE THAN THAT

You didn't answer my question. Why God cannot just forgive our sins? Why do you put that limiting attribute on God?

[grotesqueness]

You didn't answer my question. Why God cannot just forgive our sins? Why do you put that limiting attribute on God?

God did not  forgive our sins Himself
He did it together with his Son PHYSICALLY PRESENSE with US, the SINNERS
He did it together with his Son PHYSICALLY PRESENSE  so that there is evident 
He did it together with his Son PHYSICALLY PRESENSE so that  God and sinners reconciled

He did it so all sinner RECOGNIZED IT AND WITNESS it WITH  evident THE SON DIED ON A CROSS   




Hark the herald angels sing
"Glory to the newborn King!
Peace on earth and mercy mild
God and sinners reconciled
Joyful, all ye nations rise




your man wisdom is  limiting attribute

God knows our sins 
and SINS IS NOT JUST WRONG DOING
SINS is MORE THAN THAT

that why GOD and HIS SON Forgive OUR SINS

and that in God wisdom is NOT a  limiting attribute


only you with your SATAN in you and with your man wisdom saw it as  a  limiting attribute

your SINS has made you who has eyes cannot see
your SINS has made you who has ears cannot hear

[victortan]

If there is a god, I wont forgive him. He start it all.

we are in today shit because he chose to make us and he know it in advance what is the consequences because he is god. right???

[Ali Imran]

If there is a god, I wont forgive him. He start it all.

we are in today shit because he chose to make us and he know it in advance what is the consequences because he is god. right???

Do you enjoy a good night's sleep? I'm sure you do. So, we do get pleasure from this life right? It's not all manure. There are roses too.

[Ali Imran]

I brought up that sleep analogy coz I wanna go to sleep.

Goodnite people.

[Blasterlord2]

If there is a god, I wont forgive him. He start it all.

we are in today shit because he chose to make us and he know it in advance what is the consequences because he is god. right???

If there is a god and he made us, then the worse thing he did is to appear in front of Abraham. What's the purpose of telling him that his descendents should worship god so that they could be given a piece of "holy land"? Now everyone's fighting for that land. If he wants to appear then appear to everyone and treat everyone equally lah.

[victortan]

If there is a god and he made us, then the worse thing he did is to appear in front of Abraham. What's the purpose of telling him that his descendents should worship god so that they could be given a piece of "holy land"? Now everyone's fighting for that land. If he wants to appear then appear to everyone and treat everyone equally lah.

yes, there is no better time than now to appear, or so say his second comng.

any prophet too can come and help us out of this climate change and war.

[victortan]

If there is a god and he made us, then the worse thing he did is to appear in front of Abraham. What's the purpose of telling him that his descendents should worship god so that they could be given a piece of "holy land"? Now everyone's fighting for that land. If he wants to appear then appear to everyone and treat everyone equally lah.

God got his own gang some more, those people so call enemy are not his creation. 

His descendent, that means got other god too. 

got his must have got hers and so on...

[cheekopekman]

Happy Easter lah! Some 2000 years ago, Jesus Christ, who was crucified to die on the Cross at Calvary, rose again from the dead and is now alive forevermore lah!

[Lukongsimi]

[p1acebo]

Happy Easter to All Believers, and for the heretics here, please repent, there is no more time to waste

I normally don’t comment on such threads because in reality, no minds are ever changed, and it is an emotionally charged and sensitive topic.

Trouble makers with their brainwashing agendas will try to push theirs to the detriment of all concerned.

So please take note

[Lukongsimi]

Happy Easter to All Believers, and for the  heretics here, please repent, there is no more time to waste

I normally don’t comment on such threads because in reality, no minds are ever changed, and it is an emotionally charged and sensitive topic.

Trouble makers with their brainwashing agendas will try to push theirs to the detriment of all concerned. 

So please take note

New believers might get confused with the lies spread intentionally

[Lukongsimi]

Whoever endures to the end will be saved
Many try to find the narrow gate but fails
Many will fall away from faith giving heed to seducing spirits n doctrine of the devil
Many worship the world instead of God
Jesus is the messiah 
He is the living water
Whoever believes in Him will never thirsts.
He is the Living Bread,whoever believes in Him will not goes hungry
…

[RiseofAsia]

Do you know God is MIA?

The Ark of the Covenant was a housing vessel for the Lord.

Priests would often have to carry the Ark with long poles. If they accidentally touched it, they would instantly die. The reason for this is because God's glory and presence cannot be touched by man. Our sinful natures cause us to keel over if we come into the presence of the Lord, without the Holy Spirit residing within us.

Sadly, the Ark disappears from the narrative when the Babylonians sack Jerusalem and destroy the temple.

[RiseofAsia]

Luckily I only believe I Ching, Mother Nature.
I can read different religion books.

Exodus 16:4-29 MSG

GOD said to Moses, “I’m going to rain bread down from the skies for you. The people will go out and gather each day’s ration. I’m going to test them to see if they’ll live according to my Teaching or not. On the sixth day, when they prepare what they have gathered, it will turn out to be twice as much as their daily ration.” Moses and Aaron told the People of Israel, “This evening you will know that it is GOD who brought you out of Egypt; and in the morning you will see the Glory of GOD. Yes, he’s listened to your complaints against him. You haven’t been complaining against us, you know, but against GOD.” Moses said, “Since it will be GOD who gives you meat for your meal in the evening and your fill of bread in the morning, it’s GOD who will have listened to your complaints against him. Who are we in all this? You haven’t been complaining to us—you’ve been complaining to GOD!” Moses instructed Aaron: “Tell the whole company of Israel: ‘Come near to GOD. He’s heard your complaints.’” When Aaron gave out the instructions to the whole company of Israel, they turned to face the wilderness. And there it was: the Glory of GOD visible in the Cloud. GOD spoke to Moses, “I’ve listened to the complaints of the Israelites. Now tell them: ‘At dusk you will eat meat and at dawn you’ll eat your fill of bread; and you’ll realize that I am GOD, your God.’” That evening quail flew in and covered the camp and in the morning there was a layer of dew all over the camp. When the layer of dew had lifted, there on the wilderness ground was a fine flaky something, fine as frost on the ground. The Israelites took one look and said to one another, man-hu (What is it?). They had no idea what it was. So Moses told them, “It’s the bread GOD has given you to eat. And these are GOD’s instructions: ‘Gather enough for each person, about two quarts per person; gather enough for everyone in your tent.’” The People of Israel went to work and started gathering, some more, some less, but when they measured out what they had gathered, those who gathered more had no extra and those who gathered less weren’t short—each person had gathered as much as was needed. Moses said to them, “Don’t leave any of it until morning.” But they didn’t listen to Moses. A few of the men kept back some of it until morning. It got wormy and smelled bad. And Moses lost his temper with them. They gathered it every morning, each person according to need. Then the sun heated up and it melted. On the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, about four quarts per person. Then the leaders of the company came to Moses and reported. Moses said, “This is what GOD was talking about: Tomorrow is a day of rest, a holy Sabbath to GOD. Whatever you plan to bake, bake today; and whatever you plan to boil, boil today. Then set aside the leftovers until morning.” They set aside what was left until morning, as Moses had commanded. It didn’t smell bad and there were no worms in it. Moses said, “Now eat it; this is the day, a Sabbath for GOD. You won’t find any of it on the ground today. Gather it every day for six days, but the seventh day is Sabbath; there won’t be any of it on the ground.” On the seventh day, some of the people went out to gather anyway but they didn’t find anything. GOD said to Moses, “How long are you going to disobey my commands and not follow my instructions? Don’t you see that GOD has given you the Sabbath? So on the sixth day he gives you bread for two days. So, each of you, stay home. Don’t leave home on the seventh day.”

[Lukongsimi]

[Alice Alicia]

Rest in peace 🕊️🙏✝️

[Ali Imran]

God did not  forgive our sins Himself
He did it together with his Son PHYSICALLY PRESENSE with US, the SINNERS
He did it together with his Son PHYSICALLY PRESENSE  so that there is evident 
He did it together with his Son PHYSICALLY PRESENSE so that  God and sinners reconciled

He did it so all sinner RECOGNIZED IT AND WITNESS it WITH  evident THE SON DIED ON A CROSS   




Hark the herald angels sing
"Glory to the newborn King!
Peace on earth and mercy mild
God and sinners reconciled
Joyful, all ye nations rise




your man wisdom is  limiting attribute

God knows our sins 
and SINS IS NOT JUST WRONG DOING
SINS is MORE THAN THAT

that why GOD and HIS SON Forgive OUR SINS

and that in God wisdom is NOT a  limiting attribute


only you with your SATAN in you and with your man wisdom saw it as  a  limiting attribute

your SINS has made you who has eyes cannot see
your SINS has made you who has ears cannot hear

Are the sins paid or forgiven?

[grotesqueness]

Are the sins paid or forgiven?

FARK YOU my friend


Since you ATE the apple... the tree of the knowledge of good and evil

God ask me to ask  you

[Ali Imran]

FARK YOU my friend


Since you ATE the apple... the tree of the knowledge of good and evil

God ask me to ask  you

According to most Christians I've met, they said Jesus paid for the sins. 

That means there is no forgiveness. 

Do you also feel the same way?