Did Jesus really dies for you???

We can even pray in dialects to God
He understands and all kinds of languages

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It is always human nature to want to find out more and to learn more...
Say if I pray in Japanese everyday...and I don understand a word more, it is funny!
Anyone who wants to strive will want to fully grasp the language by learning it.
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(01-04-2024, 10:51 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I agreed with what you said but you missed my point in my earlier post.
What makes it easier for someone to pray to God? Language! If the Bible is in arabic, I can honestly tell you the number of singaporean who want to convert to Christians will drop in numbers...if you don even know the language, how can you pray freely? 

You pray in Arabic but you speak to Allah in melayu then you speak to your mosque friends in English??  Big Grin

I pray in English, I speak to christ in English, I speak to my congregation in English..lol

Who says you cannot speak to Allah in English? Of course we can. We can pray in English if we want to.
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(01-04-2024, 10:06 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Bibles are written in Chinese and English so easy to understand

You understand bibile in English and Chinese very well right. Can you explain at what age Jesus was circumcised? If He was god why should he circumcised ?
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(01-04-2024, 11:06 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Who says you cannot speak to Allah in English? Of course we can. We can pray in English if we want to.

The quran that you read is in English or Arabic?
So you read a English passage in the mosque or religious class?
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(01-04-2024, 11:07 AM)Hope Wrote:  You understand bibile in English and Chinese very well right. Can you explain at what age Jesus was circumcised? If He was god why should he circumcised ?
Jesus was a Jew so needs to 
U purposely ask to taunt me
We are under new creations so only circumcised the heart

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(01-04-2024, 10:23 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  if it’s the true religion should be easy for all people to understand 
Ask u read Arabic is like finding needle in the sea 
So many of their people after so many years gave up
Not only that need to potong and need to wear long warm clothes cover head

You say you can understand bible in Chinese and English right.Can you explain why Mary covered from head to toe?
Why Jesus Potong his p_nis?

Paul didn’t teach you this in Chinese/ English 😂
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(01-04-2024, 11:07 AM)Hope Wrote:  You understand bibile in English and Chinese very well right. Can you explain at what age Jesus was circumcised? If He was god why should he circumcised ?

Let us not go into this..
I can say Allah did not speak to muhammad at all in the quran..
Angel Gabriel did not pass the relevation to muhammad
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(01-04-2024, 11:09 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The quran that you read is in English or Arabic?
So you read a English passage in the mosque or religious class?

That depends on the audience. If I'm speaking to my children about the Quran, I'd use English. If I'm with my Malay friends, I'd use Malay.

What language did Jesus speak to his disciples? Do you know?
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(01-04-2024, 11:09 AM)I Lukongsimi Wrote:  Jesus was a Jew so needs to 
U purposely ask to taunt me
We are under new creations so only circumcised the heart

You are following Paul.
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(01-04-2024, 11:11 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Let us not go into this..
I can say Allah did not speak to muhammad at all in the quran..
Angel Gabriel did not pass the relevation to muhammad

Ya loh 
This thread ask Christians they bo song come and attack

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(01-04-2024, 11:11 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Let us not go into this..
I can say Allah did not speak to muhammad at all in the quran..
Angel Gabriel did not pass the relevation to muhammad

No you can't.

You do not have the knowledge to say that.
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(01-04-2024, 11:12 AM)Hope Wrote:  You are following Paul.

Follow who is none of your business lah

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(01-04-2024, 11:11 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Let us not go into this..
I can say Allah did not speak to muhammad at all in the quran..
Angel Gabriel did not pass the relevation to muhammad
It was Jibreel who pass the revelation
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(01-04-2024, 11:13 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  No you can't.

You do not have the knowledge to say that.

Then show me your quran that says that grabriel pass the relevation to muhammad
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(01-04-2024, 11:13 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Follow who is none of your business lah

You are following false . Nothing to do with Jesus or Abraham or Lord in the heaven
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(01-04-2024, 11:14 AM)Hope Wrote:  It was Jibreel who pass the revelation

Got proof?

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(01-04-2024, 11:15 AM)Hope Wrote:  You are following false . Nothing to do with Jesus or Abraham or Lord in the heaven

Got proof?

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(01-04-2024, 11:14 AM)Hope Wrote:  It was Jibreel who pass the revelation

Jibreel is Gabriel...you don even know this?
Show me in the quran that says it is him
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(01-04-2024, 11:15 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Then show me your quran that says that grabriel pass the relevation to muhammad

Who do you think passed the Quran to our prophet?
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(01-04-2024, 11:15 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Jibreel is Gabriel...you don even know this?
Show me in the quran that says it is him

No proof 
all pack of lies ?

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(01-04-2024, 11:15 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Jibreel is Gabriel...you don even know this?
Show me in the quran that says it is him
We don’t understand Quran because it is in Arabic . 
You understand bible which is in Chinese/English. Can you explain why Jesus has to circumcise if he was the God or son of God
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(01-04-2024, 11:16 AM)Fancy-Bus8506 Wrote:  You're putting forth your opinion as a fact because like Christianity, Islam has billions of followers. Regardless, this thing is not important in the grand scheme of thing. 

Let's assume Islam and every other religion (except yours) is false.

The problem that you're facing now is whether your religion is true. Since you've agreed about the Language supremacy clause, what will you do about this? Continue believing the version that you're currently reading or do you best to find out which version is close to the original version? The latter is impossible because the version in the original language isn't available anywhere in the world.

Therefore, how can you be so sure that the version that you are reading is 100% translated correctly, and every single verse / page is intact i.e. no verses / pages are added, edited, and / or removed?

If you can't prove it, then like every theist, you're just relying on faith instead of facts.

God's words do not need anything to prove...the events were written by men and many could have been misinterpreted and lost in translation...some might have even been corrupted. These are all men makings. I have never argued on this point.

I make it clear that for someone to accept or understand a religion, language is the most important...how can I pray in a language that I don use or understand..this is the problem...
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(01-04-2024, 11:20 AM)Hope Wrote:  We don’t understand Quran because it is in Arabic . 
You understand bible which is in Chinese/English. Can you explain why Jesus has to circumcise if he was the God or son of God
Can u explain why Jesus was baptized ?
Your muh got baptized ?

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(01-04-2024, 11:20 AM)Hope Wrote:  We don’t understand Quran because it is in Arabic . 
You understand bible which is in Chinese/English. Can you explain why Jesus has to circumcise if he was the God or son of God

Google it...my explanation holds no weight..you will attack the Bible with another question
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(01-04-2024, 11:25 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Google it...my explanation holds no weight..you will attack the Bible with another question

If Hope googles it, he will get like 10 different answers. Which one is the correct one?
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(01-04-2024, 11:15 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Jibreel is Gabriel...you don even know this?
Show me in the quran that says it is him

قُلْ مَن كَانَ عَدُوًّۭا لِّجِبْرِيلَ فَإِنَّهُۥ نَزَّلَهُۥ عَلَىٰ قَلْبِكَ بِإِذْنِ ٱللَّهِ مُصَدِّقًۭا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ وَهُدًۭى وَبُشْرَىٰلِلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٩٧

Say, "Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel - it is [none but] he who has brought it [i.e., the Qur’ān] down upon your heart, [O Muḥammad], by permission of Allāh, confirming that which was before it and as guidance and good tidings for the believers."

Quran 2:97

Do you see this verse,Jibreel bring it.

This verse is addressing to people like you
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(01-04-2024, 11:10 AM)Hope Wrote:  You say you can understand bible in Chinese and English right.Can you explain why Mary covered from head to toe?
Why Jesus Potong his p_nis?

Paul didn’t teach you this in Chinese/ English 😂
Follow potong n cover head but worship different god

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(01-04-2024, 11:25 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Google it...my explanation holds no weight..you will attack the Bible with another question

You explain with your Chinese/English bibles.You understand better than bibles in Arabic right
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(01-04-2024, 11:29 AM)Hope Wrote:  قُلْ مَن كَانَ عَدُوًّۭا لِّجِبْرِيلَ فَإِنَّهُۥ نَزَّلَهُۥ عَلَىٰ قَلْبِكَ بِإِذْنِ ٱللَّهِ مُصَدِّقًۭا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ وَهُدًۭى وَبُشْرَىٰلِلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٩٧

Say, "Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel - it is [none but] he who has brought it [i.e., the Qur’ān] down upon your heart, [O Muḥammad], by permission of Allāh, confirming that which was before it and as guidance and good tidings for the believers."

No. Muhammad did not say it was jibreel who gave the relevation to him. It might ve the devil who gave hime something else or It was him who pen it down.
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