Did Jesus really dies for you???

(02-04-2024, 08:08 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  OK I cease fire...tired and boring already Big Grin
This victortan again started this kind of thread..he knows how to start a fire Big Grin

He won’t dare participate until Christians came in 
Actuallly he is just a coward act tough only

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(02-04-2024, 08:09 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Quran 33:37, Tafsir al-Jalalayn

I know all these silly school-boy polemics you're now peddling.

Tafsir Jalaleen doesn't say what you said about our prophet (صلي الله عليه وسلم).
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(02-04-2024, 08:08 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  OK I cease fire...tired and boring already Big Grin
This victortan again started this kind of thread..he knows how to start a fire Big Grin

Why don't you start a thread and we can carry on from there. Let's not use this victortan's thread anymore.
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The Holy Bible covers a very tiny areas of the earth.

There's no mention about The Great Wall of China
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(02-04-2024, 08:10 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The truth will always prevail.

Remember that.


Clapping   yeah Satan lives in the nose of all Muslims.
That's the truth that will prevail!
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(02-04-2024, 08:15 AM)Scythian Wrote:  .
The Holy Bible covers a very tiny areas of the earth.

There's no mention about The Great Wall of China

It will be a big heavy book to carry to church  then

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(02-04-2024, 08:16 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Clapping   yeah Satan lives in the nose of all Muslims.
That's the truth that will prevail!

How do you know it doesn't?

Yes, truth will always prevail. That is what every Christian will eventually realize when they debate with Muslims. They cannot win. Why? Because the truth will always prevail.
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(02-04-2024, 08:18 AM)Fancy-Bus8506 Wrote:  Which God teaches this foul-mouthed guy?
I'll be VERY ashamed if I share the same religion as this guy.

This OYK is a pigeon. Many people here avoid him.

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(01-04-2024, 08:05 PM)sgh Wrote:  No mention in Bible does not mean later Jesus never become a father. Bible are after all written by ppl. They may feel it is shameful so never write it in logical?

As per Islamic narrations, Jesus will get marry on his second coming.He will marry a woman from sham (greater Syria).
All of Paul’s followers will witness Jesus marriage on social media soon.
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Are we, Singaporeans the first people on earth left to question today, "did Jesus really died for you?"

Today is 2024
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(01-04-2024, 08:04 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  No mention in bible 
Quran muh got married n have kids many wives

Muhammad got married at his age of 25.He live with his first wife 25 years until her death.
He had children.
He got the title of Husband, Father, Father in law, Grandfather, Brother in law.
Jesus had nothing.
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(02-04-2024, 07:38 AM)Scythian Wrote:  Jesus, son of God is a Jew
God should be a Jew too..

What can they both do for Singaporean Chinese?

As per Quran, Jesus came to teach Israelites.
Singapore Chinese or Indian or Malays are not Israelites.
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Why would someone died for you when he didnt even know you? There must be millions of answers out there, which are the most commonly accepted ones?
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(02-04-2024, 08:59 AM)Scythian Wrote:  Are we, Singaporeans the first people on earth left to question today, "did Jesus really died for you?"

Today is 2024


Quran 3:59] Indeed, the example of Jesus to Allah is like that of Adam. He created Him from dust; then He said to him, “Be,” and he was

Quran 4:157] And [for] their saying, “Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah .” And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.


Quran 3:55] [Mention] when Allah said, “O Jesus, indeed I will take you and raise you to Myself and purify you from those who disbelieve and make those who follow you [in submission to Allah alone] superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, and I will judge between you concerning that in which you used to differ.
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(02-04-2024, 09:03 AM)Hope Wrote:  Muhammad got married at his age of 25.He live with his first wife 25 years until her death.
He had children.
He got the title of Husband, Father, Father in law, Grandfather, Brother in law.
Jesus had nothing.
Jesus is God n cannot get married  with His children on earth n have kids 
Simple as that.

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(02-04-2024, 09:52 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Jesus is God n cannot get married  with His children on earth n have kids 
Simple as that.
Why did God get circumcised?
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(02-04-2024, 09:55 AM)Hope Wrote:  Why did God get circumcised?

I already answer that q Liao don’t be Mak Nek Nek like pachik asks same q everyday

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(02-04-2024, 09:11 AM)Hope Wrote:  As per Quran, Jesus came to teach Israelites.
Singapore Chinese or Indian or Malays are not Israelites.

As per qoran muh came to get married to many wives n have kids?

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(02-04-2024, 09:17 AM)Hope Wrote:  Quran 3:59] Indeed, the example of Jesus to Allah is like that of Adam. He created Him from dust; then He said to him, “Be,” and he was

Quran 4:157] And [for] their saying, “Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah .” And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.


Quran 3:55] [Mention] when Allah said, “O Jesus, indeed I will take you and raise you to Myself and purify you from those who disbelieve and make those who follow you [in submission to Allah alone] superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, and I will judge between you concerning that in which you used to differ.

All anti christ lies

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(02-04-2024, 06:47 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  That is wrong bro. Islam saved Jews from the Christians. If not for the Muslims, there would be no more Jews as they would have been wiped off by the Christians, in particular, Queen Isabella and King Ferdinand. So no, Muslims and Jews don't oppose each other, until Zionism came along in the late 19th century.

But yes, we both have the same faith. And as you know, our faith came from the prophets, including Jesus. 

Do you know where your faith came from? I know and I can tell you right off the bat that it didn't come from Jesus, the son of Mary, peace be upon him.
While the Muslims did accept and co-exist with the Jewish settlers moving into their lands, the Jewish community weren't exactly being wiped off the face of the earth by Christians. They were persecuted, and hounded out/expelled from majority of the European territories, this is not the same as being massacred to the point of extinction eg Nazi genocide. Anti-semitism has always existed since the beginning of biblical times but the Jewish people have always managed to prevail/ stay afloat because they are God's chosen people. Your statement  that there would be "no more Jews"  if not for the Muslims is an inaccurate representation of the historic reality.

Jesus existed even before the world was created. Our faith and yours came from the Jews who were chosen by God. You might believe differently but that is your right. It does not make your belief more right.
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(02-04-2024, 09:58 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  I already answer that q Liao don’t be Mak Nek Nek like pachik asks same q everyday

You told Jesus was a Jew when he got circumcised.Was he not the God then?
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(02-04-2024, 08:18 AM)Fancy-Bus8506 Wrote:  Which God teaches this foul-mouthed guy?
I'll be VERY ashamed if I share the same religion as this guy.

And which god taught you to go around calling people fools and saying other religions are satanic?

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(02-04-2024, 08:20 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  How do you know it doesn't?

Yes, truth will always prevail. That is what every Christian will eventually realize when they debate with Muslims. They cannot win. Why? Because the truth will always prevail.

You are wrong man.  I can beat you anytime in a debate but the venue must be an open football field, we stand right in the centre of it and before we go in, I want a body search to remove all recording devices.  It will be no holds barred.  You can bring a Bible and Quran along.

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(02-04-2024, 06:59 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Prophet Muhammad (صلي الله عليه وسلم) brought an objective truth. So too did the prophets before him.

In comparison, your experience is a subjective truth because it is only experienced by you and no one else. Even if someone else went through the same thing you did, his/her experience will differ from yours.
You have just explained why Mohammad's truth is subjective. Even if Mohammad had a twin who had the same dream in the cave at the same time, their experiences would still be different.... they might recite the same verses, their interpretation of the verse would be different. Your understanding of the Koran will not be the same as your fellow muslims even if you use the same Koran.
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(02-04-2024, 10:36 AM)Hope Wrote:  You told Jesus was a Jew when he got circumcised.Was he not the God then?

Jesus was God in the flesh n was born a Jew

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(02-04-2024, 09:17 AM)Hope Wrote:  Quran 3:59] Indeed, the example of Jesus to Allah is like that of Adam. He created Him from dust; then He said to him, “Be,” and he was

Quran 4:157] And [for] their saying, “Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah .” And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.


Quran 3:55] [Mention] when Allah said, “O Jesus, indeed I will take you and raise you to Myself and purify you from those who disbelieve and make those who follow you [in submission to Allah alone] superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, and I will judge between you concerning that in which you used to differ.

Jesus' Death on the Cross is the bedrock of Christianity. Without His Death, there can be no salvation and no Christianity.

You are quoting verses that deny His Death.

You want to live by the law, then you will die by it.  We Christians can only warn you, but whether you listen or not, it's your choice of course...

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(02-04-2024, 10:02 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  As per qoran muh came to get married to many wives n have kids?

He lived with his first wife 25 years.He married his second wife after the death of first wife at his age of 51.He died at the age of 61.During his last ten years he married 12 wives most of them were already in menopause.
He didn’t marry them for sexual pleasure.
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(02-04-2024, 10:50 AM)Hope Wrote:  He lived with his first wife 25 years.He married his second wife after the death of first wife at his age of 51.He died at the age of 61.During his last ten years he married 12 wives most of them were already in menopause.
He didn’t marry them for sexual pleasure.

How did he died?

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(02-04-2024, 08:38 AM)Fancy-Bus8506 Wrote:  haha. didn't see this when i posted above to you. i guess you are aware of him.

You need all these "changings of subject" which enable you to wriggle away from answering my question with a simple yes or no.

Let me repeat, and rewrite it for a better clarity.  

1.  You used the word "religions" in the plural.

2.  Are you saying that all religions, except for Islam, are from Satan?

Yes/No.  Rolleyes

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(02-04-2024, 10:48 AM)Oyk Wrote:  Jesus' Death on the Cross is the bedrock of Christianity. Without His Death, there can be no salvation and no Christianity.

You are quoting verses that deny His Death.

You want to live by the law, then you will die by it.  We Christians can only warn you, but whether you listen or not, it's your choice of course...
You are right. With out cruxifiction, your religion is also same as other religions.
Did Jesus claim anywhere his religion is Christianity?
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