Effectiveness of vaccines : Singapore study.
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The sinovac vaccine is 5 tines more severe cases than Pfizer.

The sinopharm is just 1.5 times.

Chjna should consider a reduce lockdown with everyone esp elderly vaccinated with sinopharm.
Followed by a live with covid strategy achieved by slowly lifting restrictions.

It can be done. There Is still time they should rollout vaccination again.

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How many died from Pfizer vaccines without contacting Covid? Too scare to disclose?
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#4

How about long covid? I believe my friend's body immunity has weaken. That is why he suffers long covid.
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Best not to discuss
This issue could be headed towards Crime against Humanity
There is no isolate so there is no way u can discuss.

Amandha is helpful
Amandha addresses the issues

https://odysee.com/@dharmabear:2/Amandha...Revealed:5

Ammandha found these using dark field microscopy 4000X
similar to Dr Young

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Sg : sample size is too small
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fully vaccinated and boosted, still kena, how effective are the vaccines?

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(15-04-2022, 04:24 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote:  fully vaccinated and boosted, still kena, how effective are the vaccines?

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Not effective at all. Pfizer have a long list of side effective was not shared and it may be not take effect now but at a longer period only know by god. What the F...k is the government doing killing the people
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(15-04-2022, 04:32 PM)Kgliangp Wrote:  Not effective at all. Pfizer have a long list of side effective was not shared and it may be not take effect now but at a longer period only know by god. What the F...k is the government doing killing the people

The study is quite boliao to me as the severe cases for Sinovac n Sinopharm are only 47 and 5 respectively.
It is also flawed imo or an unfair comparison as the study was carried out on data for Oct-Nov 2021. This is when most Sinovac recipients had only gotten 2 shots whereas many seniors (who are more prone to severe Covid illness) would have gotten their (3rd) booster jab of the mRNA vaccines as the exercise started in Sep 2021.

And instead of dwelling on this 52 severe cases, I would think Sporeans would be more interested had NCID n MOH studied on the reason(s) behind the huge excess monthly deaths (above mthly average) for the months of Oct 2021 and Nov 2021. If the majority of this excess death of roughly 1,100 (from the table below that someone had posted on hwz a few months ago) belongs to the seniors from the 60s and older group (total 273,350 as calculated from the 1st table), it will translate to an excess death rate of 40.2 per 10K for them. Whereas severe cases (not death) for Sinovac and Sinopharm will be 52.2 and 9.6 per 10K respectively for the same age group (of 60s - 100s at 9,006 and 5,184). 

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It was publish in natural magazine, infested with omicron will cause l many long term damages, unable to conceive brain volume decrease, lung damages and many others side effect unknown to the scientists. bloodly unless gov is not doing their  bloody job all they did is sucking money from it people.
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It was publish in natural magazine, infested with omicron will cause l many long term damages, unable to conceive brain volume decrease, lung damages and many others side effect unknown to the scientists. bloodly unless gov is not doing their  bloody job all they did is sucking money from it people.
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Only the sibei weak one take Sinovac..because No Fish Prawn also Good.
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(15-04-2022, 08:26 PM)sgxin Wrote:  The study is quite boliao to me as the severe cases for Sinovac n Sinopharm are only 47 and 5 respectively.
It is also flawed imo or an unfair comparison as the study was carried out on data for Oct-Nov 2021. This is when most Sinovac recipients had only gotten 2 shots whereas many seniors (who are more prone to severe Covid illness) would have gotten their (3rd) booster jab of the mRNA vaccines as the exercise started in Sep 2021.

And instead of dwelling on this 52 severe cases, I would think Sporeans would be more interested had NCID n MOH studied on the reason(s) behind the huge excess monthly deaths (above mthly average) for the months of Oct 2021 and Nov 2021. If the majority of this excess death of roughly 1,100 (from the table below that someone had posted on hwz a few months ago) belongs to the seniors from the 60s and older group (total 273,350 as calculated from the 1st table), it will translate to an excess death rate of 40.2 per 10K for them. Whereas severe cases (not death) for Sinovac and Sinopharm will be 52.2 and 9.6 per 10K respectively for the same age group (of 60s - 100s at 9,006 and 5,184). 

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https:// forums .hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/severe-covid-19-symptoms-5-times-more-likely-in-patients-who-got-sinovac-than-pfizer-jab-singapore-study.6731772/


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Yes it is clear the report ignore age factor clearly, 
mRNA vaccine is not put to real test in Sg as compare as compare to inactivated ones
70 and above risk are known to be more multiple tens more higher than the younger,
so how 5 times be better.
MOH is not doing a professional report but more of hard selling. 

Underlying illness and  Vitamin mineral deficiency are also important detail.
There is far too less educating of citizens how to keep immune strong.

No one will seriously look at Sg for solutions after this pandemic falter.
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(15-04-2022, 02:38 PM)sgbuffett Wrote:  The sinovac vaccine is 5 tines more severe cases than Pfizer.

The sinopharm is just 1.5 times.
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If so, why China death cases so low?  

Fake study lah. Facts speak loud and clear.  

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SG 3rd world can study vaccines? Talk cok sing song maybe.🤣🤣🤣
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(15-04-2022, 02:38 PM)sgbuffett Wrote:  The sinovac vaccine is 5 tines more severe cases than Pfizer.

The sinopharm is just 1.5 times.

Chjna should consider a reduce lockdown with everyone esp elderly vaccinated with sinopharm.
Followed by a live with covid strategy achieved  by slowly lifting restrictions.

It can be done. There Is still time they should rollout vaccination again.
If Sinopharm is better than Sinovac, then why is govt offering Sinovac instead of Sinopharm?

1. I have served the nation in a combat unit for 2.5 + 10 years. I had fulfilled my duty as a citizen, but has the country do it's part for me?
2. I don't know where the threat of CCP is, but I know the threat of CECA is already at my doorsteps
3. I had been called a CCP, JHK, Pinoy, but they never called me a CECA..
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BBC indirectly contradict with what SG finding seems to be hinting about the Chinese non-mRNA vaccines, as far as saving lives is concern.

"Reported infections in China have also been very low throughout the pandemic.
Concerns have been expressed about the accuracy of the official data, but it seems clear that both infection and death rates have been low when compared with other countries. About 88% of the population is now fully vaccinated..."


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(16-04-2022, 10:59 PM)ArielCasper Wrote:  If Sinopharm is better than Sinovac, then why is govt offering Sinovac instead of Sinopharm?

Sinovac was one of the earliest COVID vaccine available to the market- Hence SG gov pre-ordered 200,000 doses in late 2020.
But they didn't allow it to be in the national vaccine list until WHO approved it in Jun 2021.

Many can tell SG gov was dragging the approval process claiming "insufficient data" from Sinovac maker and added to the fact Temasek Holding had vested interest in nBioTech mRNA vaccine.
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compare singapore & HK data, you can get the result of effectiveness of sinovac & mRNA.
HK covid death rate is the highest in the world, why>
china covid death rate logically is the same as HK as they use the same vaccine, but who can get the hard truth fact & data of china> totally no way, fully controlled & show only what they tell the world the BS.



新加坡和香港的数据证明,科兴疫苗对老年人的防护效果欠佳,可能才是中国坚持清零的主要原因



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(17-04-2022, 07:15 AM)kokee Wrote:  compare singapore & HK data, you can get the result of effectiveness of sinovac & mRNA.
HK covid death rate is the highest in the world, why>
china covid death rate logically is the same as HK as they use the same vaccine, but who can get the hard truth fact & data of china> totally no way, fully controlled & show only what they tell the world the BS.



新加坡和香港的数据证明,科兴疫苗对老年人的防护效果欠佳,可能才是中国坚持清零的主要原因



Even if China has mRNA vaccine, you will still say it is lousy, coz it is made by China..

1. I have served the nation in a combat unit for 2.5 + 10 years. I had fulfilled my duty as a citizen, but has the country do it's part for me?
2. I don't know where the threat of CCP is, but I know the threat of CECA is already at my doorsteps
3. I had been called a CCP, JHK, Pinoy, but they never called me a CECA..
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Some dumbfarts will be misled by this outdated Delta study. Also, why need to do "studies" when we have thousands of real live data??? We are now Omicron. Just publish the daily vax status of those in hospital breakdown by oxygen m/c, ICU and deaths. We can make our own judgement from these datas.
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#23

aiya they just want to attack anything china
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#24

mrna so good, why denmark, iceland top cases over 1 million is above 50%!
Slovenia,Netherlands, San Marino cannot be using inactivate vaccine all near 50%. Switzerland, Israel also above 40%.
40% meant 40% of total population all get before.
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