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(01-01-2022, 01:37 PM)Migrant Wrote: Asean will definitely benefit from this.
Very helpful for Singapore business. Boost our trade.
(01-01-2022, 03:54 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote: RCEP will bring in business competition, cheap labour and lower salary as well, be mentally prepared, more FTs will arrive in Spore, and Telstra from Australia and China Mobile will compete with Singtel & Starhub in local market in coming years.
(01-01-2022, 04:06 PM)talky Wrote: POWER N GAS GOT COMPETITION FROM OTHER COUNTRIES ?
CANT STAND GREEDY PAP MAKING US PAY N PAY
SP PROFIT ARD 1 BILLION/YR
THESE ARE ESSENTIALS SHLD NOT BE MAKING SO MUCH FR ITS CITIZENS
(01-01-2022, 03:54 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote: RCEP will bring in business competition, cheap labour and lower salary as well, be mentally prepared, more FTs will arrive in Spore, and Telstra from Australia and China Mobile will compete with Singtel & Starhub in local market in coming years.
(01-01-2022, 04:13 PM)Oyk Wrote: Go and look at the map you posted upthread.
Big huge splash of red, but I could not even see Singapore on it. When it's painted red, as it is, this little red dot becomes non-existent on the map.
From the way you wrote, you are fearful of competition, of FTs, FC (Foreign companies) coming in.....
Singapore is not a game setter, it is a taker, and certainly not a game changer. We change when the rules are changed.
Protectionism will get us no where.
Yes, workers will come in asking for lower wages. Look at the Banglas...if not for them, you think we can still afford to build low cost HDB flats? Try hiring 100% sinkies to do the job and see what happens. Sinkie would rather do GRAB delivery earning $5000 a month than work as a construction worker, unless you pay them maybe $8K a month.
And you can forget about constructing the north-south corridor without cheap foreign workers.
On another level, there are the FTs...the engineers, IT experts, the doctors, etc. You don't want them? You want to pull an iron curtain around the island and stop FTs from coming in, so that we can enjoy super high wages? It will not happen. Companies will leave.
(01-01-2022, 04:13 PM)Oyk Wrote: Go and look at the map you posted upthread.
Big huge splash of red, but I could not even see Singapore on it. When it's painted red, as it is, this little red dot becomes non-existent on the map.
From the way you wrote, you are fearful of competition, of FTs, FC (Foreign companies) coming in.....
Singapore is not a game setter, it is a taker, and certainly not a game changer. We change when the rules are changed.
Protectionism will get us no where.
Yes, workers will come in asking for lower wages. Look at the Banglas...if not for them, you think we can still afford to build low cost HDB flats? Try hiring 100% sinkies to do the job and see what happens. Sinkie would rather do GRAB delivery earning $5000 a month than work as a construction worker, unless you pay them maybe $8K a month.
And you can forget about constructing the north-south corridor without cheap foreign workers.
On another level, there are the FTs...the engineers, IT experts, the doctors, etc. You don't want them? You want to pull an iron curtain around the island and stop FTs from coming in, so that we can enjoy super high wages? It will not happen. Companies will leave.
(01-01-2022, 04:19 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote: I am not fearful, I just want to highlight Spore not only gain from RCEP but also must bear the impact of it, be mentally prepared, no more complaining of FTs, more and more will come, Sporeans can also go other RCEP countries to work or do business paying lower taxes.
The map was found from Google search, Spore is too small to spot in the big red.
(01-01-2022, 04:31 PM)debono Wrote: Is is sad and disappointing that the RCEP where the FTs can come here to work and compete with our PMETs.......
(01-01-2022, 04:19 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote: I am not fearful, I just want to highlight Spore not only gain from RCEP but also must bear the impact of it, be mentally prepared, no more complaining of FTs, more and more will come, Sporeans can also go other RCEP countries to work or do business paying lower taxes.
The map was found from Google search, Spore is too small to spot in the big red.
(01-01-2022, 04:31 PM)debono Wrote: Is is sad and disappointing that the RCEP where the FTs can come here to work and compete with our PMETs.......
(01-01-2022, 04:36 PM)Oyk Wrote: Well said.
We are now about 60% local and 40% foreign.
Of that 60%, slightly more than half are the Merdeka and Gen X. Therefore, there are less than 30% young Singaporeans vs 40% foreigners (who are most young).
So, if you go inside a typical company, you will see a lot of mature looking people....mostly Singaporeans, but when you see the young workers, they are mostly not locals.
For every two mature workers who are Singaporeans, there is only one YOUNG local Singaporean...which is basically the result of our TFR of 1 child for every 2 adults. This is why a lot of young workers are imported to replace a fast retiring/aging older workforce.
But the fact that we have so many young foreigners means that we have a lot of workers who are not afraid to travel to anywhere to work. If this dynamics continues, and our TFR continues to wipe out our local population, we would become a country of migrant workers...be it migrant FT or migrant FW, where Singapore is just Singapore Inc...people come and go, no love lost. By then, it will be as you wrote...if our young locals are also willing to work overseas and seize the opportunities presented by RCEP.