[theold]

Full-scale war in the Middle East involving Israel and Iran is now likely, most western Europeans responding in a poll believe, with many criticising Israel’s conduct thus far and saying that if such a war did occur, the US and Europe should not provide it with military aid.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/n...ns-in-poll

[Bw2023]

Former UK ambassador Alistair Crooke who have connections on both sides said that during the 20 Oct strike Israel prepared 3 waves against Iran

But in the 1st wave when Israeli jets were over Iraqi airspace, 100km before reaching Iranian border, they were unexpectedly locked on by air defence radar of "unknown nature". The jets had to fire their cruise missiles into Iran from within Iraq. Israel then called off the other 2 waves

Very likely Iran had developed its own air-defence system of "unknown nature" by studying US fighter jets flying in Syrian airspace for years - the same type of jets which are flown by Israel

My point is, Iran already beat Israel. Israel is no match for Iran. Any major war with Iran will not be fought by Israel, but by the US. This is why US THAAD & troops are in Israel.

[theold]

Trump already said Israel cannot last more than 2 years. If Israel continues with the wars with surrounding countries, it ends itself. Its economy is already greatly impacted.

The attack on Iran reviews the weakness of the US systems. Will the US attack Iran? Under Trump, it is very likely.

[Bw2023]

Trump already said Israel cannot last more than 2 years. If Israel continues with the wars with surrounding countries, it ends itself. Its economy is already greatly impacted.

The attack on Iran reviews the weakness of the US systems. Will the US attack Iran? Under Trump, it is very likely.

Trump is pro Israel but not necessarily pro Netanyahu 

The decision to make war with Iran rest with Pentagon that depends on the Military Industrial Complex that make & sell weapons 

War with Russian-backed Iran hurts the MIC bcos Russia-Iran tag team have the potential to expose the weakness of American weapons which ultimately hurts sales

[ysh02]

So if he become new president the war stops?

[Bw2023]

So if he become new president the war stops?

Ukraine war will stop as he promise

But that also means Russia will be free to help Iran fend off a US attack 

Im guessing there wont be any major US-Iran war

[theold]

The US will use surgical strikes but not a full-blown war with Iran.

Israel cannot fight a war with Iran without the US and UK.

[Bw2023]

The US will use surgical strikes but not a full-blown war with Iran.

Israel cannot fight a war with Iran without the US and UK.

Iran already crossed the rubicon in which a single US strike on Iran wil trigger full scale war. Its all or nothing. 

I dont know what sort of surgical strike the US can do that will totally prevent Iran from raining lots of fast powerful missiles on Israel 

Israel has become a major liability for the US to defend

[klat]

Now is the only chance left for Israel to strike the nuclear and oil facilities in Iran. It is now or never.


So better to do now.