[sgbuffett]

I welcome.anyone to challenge the points I raised and correct me 

1. A couple getting married can only afford smaller home than 15yrs ago. 

2. Fewer people who need a car can own one.

3. Queues.at govt hospital, polyclinic dental have longer eait times than 15yrs ago and cost of medical has hone up much faster than income

4. Job security has gone down and job stress has gone up.

5. .Decline in job opportunities esp for older Singaoireans.

6. Cost of eating out is less affordable today than before as price increase outstrips income for most Singaporeans.

7. More scams today than before due tto moves to digitalised without enough safeguards against scams. 

8. Singapore become overcrowded. These days getting a seat at hawker cebter also harder. Trains packed like sardines.

If all major aspects of life like jobs, healthcare snd housing did not improve. how is it possible to claim that life has improved?

If life has not improved what do we hope to get voting for the same govt that failed to do anything about it and often said they will just .maintained status quo

In their  manifesto. all they promise is lore of the same policies that have not worked.

[Ola]

That Hypocrite Traitor from Malaysia

will compare his 3rd World Country with SG

and yell at you for this thread

[WhatDoYouThink!]

If there is something you could help, pls do so in this coming ge. Else no point highlighting the problem without solution

[forum456]

If there is something you could help, pls do so in this coming ge. Else no point highlighting the problem without solution

vote for opposition and let PAP votes drop to 51%

[Gstalk]

I welcome.anyone to challenge the points I raise and correct me 


If all major aspects of life like jobs, healthcare snd housing did not improve. how is it possible to claim that life has improved?

Because erection is coming. They have to paint a nice picture, by hook or by crook, to try to fish for votes esp of those who are still sitting on a fence.

[Harry Lee]

Yes indeed. From small house to sprawling gcbs...

[Sentinel]

Need to vote to take away the 2/3 majority

Winning Popular vote got wat fcuk use?

Dun complain so much, you asked for it, you get wat you voted for

With so many useful idiots and plp, no way PAP can lose

Own time, own target, fire away

Sinkiepoor already finished

No foresight, no talent, no vision, no solution, no leadership, no quality

[maxsanic]

I welcome.anyone to challenge the points I raise and correct me 

1. A couple getting married cannonly afford smaller home than 15yrs ago. 

2. Fewer people who need a car can own one.

3. Queues.at fovt hospital, polyclinic dental have longer eait times than 15yrs ago and cost of medical has hone up much faster than income

4. Job security has gone down and job stress has gone up.

5. .Decline in job opportunities esp for older Singaoireans.

6. Cost of eating out is less affordable today than before as price increase outstrips income for most Singaporeans.

7. More scams today than before due tto moves to digitalised without enough safeguards against scams. 

8. Singapore become overcrowded. These days getting a seat at hawker cebter also harder. Trains packed like sardines.

If all major aspects of life like jobs, healthcare snd housing did not improve. how is it possible to claim that life has improved?

Sort of true, but you can't just present one side of the picture without brining up the other one. 15 years ago Retail Assistants, Security Guards, Warehouse Helpers etc. were being paid $800 - $900 basic wages, now the going rate is $2,300 - $2,700. Cleaners used to be paid $500 - $600 and now the going rate is $1,500 - $1,800. Sure there will always be some people for whatever reason didn't benefit from the overall trend, but by and large wages of the lower income growth have also increased exponentially.

As for #8 that is not true at all. Crowds on public transport are way better now compared to 15 years ago though this has nothing to do with the government, it's just a result of post COVID working patterns.

Of all the points you raised, probably only car ownership and job security are "indisputable", the rest are far more nuanced when full context is taken into account. Also it's quite strange to focus on Polyclinic dentistry, why not Polyclinic in general? Things are certainly better than before. In the past people waste half to one whole day hanging around clinic doing nothing, now you can do appointment online and go down when you see the queue approaching. 

From a macro POV, 13 years ago GE2011 PAP's voting share was only 60%, it is more or less stable at GE2020 at 61%. If the recent Presidential Election is anything to go by, Tharman winning such a monstrous share indicates the mood is generally benign for PAP as well. People need to accept the fact that while Singaporeans have grouses against the government, they are more or less OK with the PAP.

Constantly belittling other citizens for being idiots who don't know their lives are worse off and are just being brainwashed or throwing up the usual FTs naturalized "fake" citizens skewing voting numbers is old. The FT scheme has been going on for so long that even if these new people were originally grateful to PAP for granting citizenship they would have turned into angry Singaporeans by now if PAP really sux.

[Sentinel]

Just for handling Covid so disastrously, is reason enough to vote them out

Compared to Macau and Vietnam, etc, these blurfcuks did a horrible job

It is one death is too many for Covid victims

[Huliwang]

Those who are working and living on current salary scale can easily cope with the rapid rising cost of living. Those who are unemployed and those retired and living on past savings will find it very tough living in this most expensive city in the world.  So life has not improved for everyone as PAP claimed looking down from their ivory tower and seeing only part of the big picture.      

[RiseofAsia]

Improve your head.

Work until die lah…

[sgbuffett]

Those who are working and living on current salary scale can easily cope with the rapid rising cost of living. Those who are unemployed and those retired and living on past savings will find it very tough living in this most expensive city in the world.  So life has not improved for everyone as PAP claimed looking down from their ivory tower and seeing only part of the big picture.      

Very good point. Given that our Singaporean population is ageing what they want is usually cost of living to be contained because their ability to earn declines towards and after retirement.

[Gstalk]

30 years ago, a Uni grad working for 5 years can afford to service a housing loan for 15 years. Now a Uni grad working for 5 years, cannot even service a housing loan for 25 years.


Cham ah

[Migrant]

This morning weather so nice. Cool. 
I walked from my place to the mall. It was raining. I don't even need an umbrella.
Everywhere coverered. 
Where to find such place.

[Scythian]

.
Total agreed 100% for themselves and cronies

Others not so sure 😃

[Ola]

Sort of true, but you can't just present one side of the picture without brining up the other one. 15 years ago Retail Assistants, Security Guards, Warehouse Helpers etc. were being paid $800 - $900 basic wages, now the going rate is $2,300 - $2,700. Cleaners used to be paid $500 - $600 and now the going rate is $1,500 - $1,800. Sure there will always be some people for whatever reason didn't benefit from the overall trend, but by and large wages of the lower income growth have also increased exponentially.

5 years ago, Giordano has 2 or 3 Retail Assistants in a store, now only 1.

10 Years ago, many Retail Assistants are Malaysians, now these jobs are done by citizens

20 Years ago, the Cost of Living is manageable with $1000/ mth salary

Low income has increased exponentially BUT many Admin jobs has decreased REAL wages

(HR Fresh Grad is now paid $500-  $1300/ mth as Intern in TrueYoga, Pacific Light   . . .  .) 

PAP damn good is shifting the problem from one group to another!

This is NOT call Solving Problems at all, it is TAI- JI

[EvertonDiehard]

Yes indeed. From small house to sprawling gcbs...

The great divide is that the masses live in HDB pigeon holes while the elites stay in GCBs.

[EvertonDiehard]

Total agreed 100% for themselves and cronies Others not so sure 😃

[EvertonDiehard]

30 years ago, a Uni grad working for 5 years can afford to service a housing loan for 15 years. Now a Uni grad working for 5 years, cannot even service a housing  loan for 25 years.Cham ah

My wife and I managed to upgrade out of our HDB flat 20 years ago by our early 30s. Young PME couples may not be able to purchase a condo till their mid-40s (if ever at all), these days. 

[EvertonDiehard]

Because erection is coming. They have to paint a nice picture, by hook or by crook, to try to fish for votes esp of those who are still sitting on a fence.

The real picture is that a staggering 95% of jobs created in 2023 and 89% in 2022 went to foreigners. A worrying 93% of respondents in the Edelman survey suffer from job loss anxiety in S'pore. How has life improved for S'poreans? The govt should be issued a POFMA for spreading fake news.  

[Gemstar]

Just for handling Covid so disastrously, is reason enough to vote them out

Compared to Macau and Vietnam, etc, these blurfcuks did a horrible job

It is one death is too many for Covid victims

This one of the worst for their mis-managements and incapabilities of handling crisis. So many heathy people died of heart attacks for no rhymes and reasons. Where got country, except us, forced citizens to be vaccinated.

[Gstalk]

 How has life improved for S'poreans? The govt should be issued a POFMA for spreading fake news.  

Of course ownself don't issue POFMA for ownself lah.


However, Ownself pay the highest salary in the world for ownself, got lah

[Ola]

9. Cost of nursing Homes
Aging population needs more places at lower cost

10. Transportation
Still see badly drawn up bus routes like stewpig blue line

[[[ForeverAlone]]]

Life getting better are GONE.

Should be way back early 70s onwards. LKY days.
Even things Do increase come price. People life don't say get seriously affected. At least majority still able to enjoy a good life at least.

Hawker foods price also increase too but at least in reasonable rate.

LHL period is the Dark side come. New citizen inject like no body business , PRs also . Pro CECA policy etc. Never plan properly. Later all things like all rushing , keep building more BTO flats , roads works like never end forever daily doing " this is something strange as our SG so small. Roads need to always do forever never end? "

you can see for yourself under LHL times is really Life getting worst. No wonder people always use LKY vs LHL to compare

LKY make SG first world
LHL make SG third world

[Huliwang]

Life getting better are GONE.

Should be way back early 70s onwards. LKY days.
Even things Do increase come price. People life don't say get seriously affected. At least majority still able to enjoy a good life at least.

Hawker foods price also increase too but at least in reasonable rate.

LHL period is the Dark side come. New citizen inject like no body business , PRs also . Pro CECA policy etc.  Never plan properly. Later all things like all rushing , keep building more BTO flats , roads works like never end forever daily doing " this is something strange as our SG so small. Roads need to always do forever never end? "

you can see for yourself under LHL times is really Life getting worst. No wonder people always use LKY vs LHL to compare

LKY make SG first world
LHL make SG third world

Wah  long write. Gets headache after reading and blur.     

[WhatDoYouThink!]

If dun build bto, where do ppl live? Only a few privileged ones could stay with parents, but the rest how?

[Alice Alicia]

Vote them out!

[EvertonDiehard]

When Pay And Pay claim that life has improved over the past 15 years, they are referring to their own life of luxury.

[webinarian]

I welcome.anyone to challenge the points I raised and correct me 

1. A couple getting married can only afford smaller home than 15yrs ago. 

2. Fewer people who need a car can own one.

3. Queues.at govt hospital, polyclinic dental have longer eait times than 15yrs ago and cost of medical has hone up much faster than income

4. Job security has gone down and job stress has gone up.

5. .Decline in job opportunities esp for older Singaoireans.

6. Cost of eating out is less affordable today than before as price increase outstrips income for most Singaporeans.

7. More scams today than before due tto moves to digitalised without enough safeguards against scams. 

8. Singapore become overcrowded. These days getting a seat at hawker cebter also harder. Trains packed like sardines.

If all major aspects of life like jobs, healthcare snd housing did not improve. how is it possible to claim that life has improved?

        
1. Newly married can only get smaller units. But the people selling can get higher prices after for free for 30 years.

2. Taking public transport is a lot easier with MRT and buses.

3. Queue at public hospitals not much different from years ago.

4. Jobs security is lesser for lazy people like you only. Salaries are higher with executives paid at 10k or more. SgButt doesn't get lah.  

5. Older folks should retire lah. CPF payments monthly can help a lot to lead simple lives.  

6. Cost of living higher, no doubt. There is good option to retire in JB that S$ = RM3.50. 

7. Train overcrowded but very convenient that you can reach anywhere in MRT and buses.  

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[[[ForeverAlone]]]

If dun build bto, where do ppl live? Only a few privileged ones could stay with parents, but the rest how?

Is planning properly not rushing rah

If LHL want to get a lot PRs , ceca , foreigner than he should know when to build new BTO flats not like now rush like sg development never end one

LKY days at least a reasonable amount of construction unlike LHL

I tell u rah LhL learn from China keep building properties to boast GDP


Now see China ? Property cash SG also will rah