[Zannn]

A50 breaks key 13K level

Now can short

Short and market goes up?

[Zannn]

A50 breaks key 13K level

Now can short

Anyone took this short with sgbuffett?

[sgbuffett]

Anyone took this short with sgbuffett?

Congrats to all who yoo k yhe short trade

A50 is unable to stay above 13K whuch is now a.syrong resistance. Protraders shorted when 13K was broken.

Going ahead any China govt announcment will just underwhelm the market and cause more selldowns.

They lost the trust of many foreign imvestors and FDI is now at multi decades low. Yuan is at weakest level in momths.
There is zero confidence that China govt can revive the economy after so many missteps.

The stimulus in the trillions can only maintain growth at the level of 5% without which the econkmy will falter. For a developing low income country 5% growth will mean high unemployment.

[sgbuffett]

A50 breaks key 13K level

Now can short

A50 continues downhill journey

[Zannn]

I shorted many temporary rallies of HSI ....everytime it rallies no matter how convimcimg the boat returns to port. Even the Oct super rally lost more than half its gains and i made money shorting it as it came down

On the surface Monday this week looks.like a one day wonder
...a massive rally after the announcement and market turn negative the next day. Traders have flashbacks of the many false rallies of  the last 2 yrs and quickly sold and got out.

I want to just share why the monday announcemnet is different from all the previous measures. 

And if the market come.down yesterday to let you in plse take the opportunity.

1. Before the announcement there was a bad CPI number showing deflation is biting deeper.

2. The announcement for the first time strip away any optimism and acknowledge the serious trouble the economy is in.

3. They announce they will shuft to an easier monetary stance. Something they avoided for 15yrs since Great Fianncial Crisis because it is powerful but has many side effecfs one.of them.is causing bubbles. But there is no choice already as they have run out of time. ...and all other measures have been ineffective at tackling rising unemployment.

4. So they rather live with the side.effects than let the cancer keep spreading.

The HSI is roughly where it is simce this thread started(up 2%?)...the good miney was to trade all the swings ....swing up swing down and it ended in the same place as 1.5yrs ago.

But now my view is a longer term nassive rally is on the way. So traders take this oppprtunity to make big money.

Go LONG and make it a big one.

Excellent analysis just two weeks ago predicting all the situation and GO LONG massive rally coming. Now see market down prediction all wrong and now all narrative change.

[WhatDoYouThink!]

One can list down all the gd reasons but the market won’t reason with you lah

Stewpig right?

[sgbuffett]

Excellent analysis just two weeks ago predicting all the situation and GO LONG massive rally coming. Now see market down prediction all wrong and now all narrative change.

In trading when you go LONG and make money you have yo sell quickly to lock jn profits.

With time and circumstances things will change.
We are getting closer to Truml Inaugurattion and he promises to impose crippling tariffs.

One month ago tthis was a distant event and uncertain. Now we are just 2 wweks away from trump things have become very real. 

Thise who are inflexible and cling to one idea will always lose at trading because they cant change fast enough jn dynamic markets.

[sgbuffett]

A50 deops further as China economy remainsnweak and investors pull money out.

[sgbuffett]

[teaserteam]

Is another property slump coming? The property index cuts below the 200MA, and a dead cross confirms the downtrend.

[sgbuffett]

Is another property slump coming? The property index cuts below the 200MA, and a dead cross confirms the downtrend.

I think the problem is different for each tier of Chjnese city.
Those tier 1 has always been land constrained and has bottomed out.

But those tier 3,4 is hopeless. There lots of land and overbuild will not recovery for years. No stimulus or fiscal spending can help the sitiation. Best is quickly drop to bottom and not drag kn and those developers all insolvebt just close down.

[teaserteam]

China asked the big fund managers not to sell down stock about 2 days ago.. Today, they don't care liao?

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/compani...ng-sources

[grotesqueness]

[sgbuffett]

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news...300-2025-1

[p1acebo]

Xi was previously a farmer? No financial know how  Too bad he previously killed off his erstwhile financially literate and reformist No: 2

Even when he left office also never give chance. Why feel so threatened? 

[sgbuffett]

Xi was previously a farmer? No financial know how  Too bad he previously killed off his erstwhile financially literate and reformist No: 2

Even when he left office also never give chance. Why feel so threatened? 

Within months of leaving office despite a lower stress life he died unexpected.

Some govt data he revealed things China govt was tryng to hide. ..becaue that want  to portray a beautiful false front to rest of the world showing off fantastic infrastructure and technology. But in fact majority of the workers are actually low income

To put in perspective the Chinese commoners are paid lower than Indonesian maids.

[revealer]

This chart tells how Xi did in these few years. Won’t think they have much to spend unless they ignore India’s progress.

[WhatDoYouThink!]

jobless ermaos got nothing good to say about jxp? can compare him with those covicted criminals? or maybe yourself who had nothing useful at all?

[sgbuffett]

A50 Index breaks below 12800 key level. Selling accelerates as funds withdrawal speeds up due to lack of confidence in economy

[revealer]

Sea of red. Also in SGX.

[revealer]

They halt ETF tradings to stop PRC from buying them

Chinese Traders’ Demand for Global Stocks Prompt Rare ETF Halts

Two China ETFs tracking overseas shares suspended from trading
The ETFs’ premiums spiked as traders seek returns abroad






By Bloomberg News
January 9, 2025 at 9:34 PM EST

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Chinese investors’ fierce appetite for overseas shares has triggered rare, full-day suspensions on a pair of exchange-traded funds tracking global equities.

The Invesco Great Wall S and P Consumer Select ETF QDII and Harvest Der Dax ETF QDII have been suspended from trading until further notice after their premiums soared, according to exchange filings issued after market hours on Thursday. This marks an escalated degree of risk warning to investors, as halts on such funds usually last for an hour.The only

[revealer]

They also suspended bond buying to defend Yuan

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...ment-bonds

[grotesqueness]

[revealer]

Sea of red. Also in SGX.

Sea of red even in Europe and the US.

[p1acebo]

Shiok. Need to accompany meimei mensus

Since they always make fun of China and hongkong red, then now everybody red together.  Huat Ahhh!!!

[sgbuffett]

If US 10yr ticks up towards 5% 2025 will be repeat of 2022 for US market but theh are now even more overvalued than before.

Yesterday Nvidia AMD all sink gokd up

[revealer]

HSI jialat. Down about 350 points or 1.8%. Losing 19,000.

[p1acebo]

Novice Leong BABA how? Up lorry?

[forum456]

when it does not go down anymore, buy the dip.

always buy low and sell high.

[sgbuffett]

A50 Index breaks below 12800 key level. Selling accelerates as funds withdrawal speeds up due to lack of confidence in economy

I will be looking at taking profits soon.
Cobgrats to all who caught this sharp downmove on HSI and A50