Posts: 21,130
Threads: 2,481
Likes Received: 5,509 in 4,684 posts
Likes Given: 767
“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"
Posts: 45,631
Threads: 2,736
Likes Received: 6,472 in 5,639 posts
Likes Given: 4,259
Hydrogen comes from where?
Posts: 18,400
Threads: 636
Likes Received: 7,299 in 5,946 posts
Likes Given: 5,650
Next, PAP will build nuke to power our supply
build where? at the reclaim land ear Changi Airport, lor
PAP TEST Balloon, liao
Be Prepared when they deny and say no 10 million Population or GST rates
and accuse of making false allegations
https://www.bing.com/search?q=singapore%2C+build+nuke&form=ANNTH1&refig=ec9af32fed6d402c942ef1bc165bf678
Why do we need 5 Mayors and 87 PAP Ministers?
Posts: 32,734
Threads: 10,847
Likes Received: 6,302 in 5,671 posts
Likes Given: 12
very scary , HDB carpark , condo carpark etc
some more our country is so compact.
Unlike USA, China
Posts: 45,631
Threads: 2,736
Likes Received: 6,472 in 5,639 posts
Likes Given: 4,259
(25-10-2022, 01:14 PM)[[ForeverAlone]] Wrote: very scary , HDB carpark , condo carpark etc
some more our country is so compact.
Unlike USA, China
USA and China are investing big on EV, not hydrogen!
(This post was last modified: 25-10-2022, 01:28 PM by
cityhantam.)
Posts: 9,803
Threads: 450
Likes Received: 2,201 in 1,862 posts
Likes Given: 1,129
(25-10-2022, 12:14 PM)cityhantam Wrote: Hydrogen comes from where?
Ammonia or NH3- which makes up largely hydrogen and nitrogen... and has zero carbon.
Exist as gas at normal temp is not flammable and smelly else, you will be poisoned without knowing its presence.
That makes it a good "raw" material for producing hydrogen - the foundation of fuel-cell power generation.
Posts: 10,773
Threads: 10
Likes Received: 3,189 in 2,494 posts
Likes Given: 1,079
If hydrogen can reduce cost of living by 50% then it is worth considering taking the risk. ....
Thinking is difficult, that's why most people judge
Carl Jung
Posts: 12,931
Threads: 849
Likes Received: 3,959 in 3,229 posts
Likes Given: 590
What is missing in the equation is the cost of producing the hydrogen. If it's very costly I'm not sure I'll be supportive of it. Clean energy is good but Singapore is too small to make a mark.
Posts: 9,803
Threads: 450
Likes Received: 2,201 in 1,862 posts
Likes Given: 1,129
(25-10-2022, 01:27 PM)cityhantam Wrote: USA and China are investing big on EV, not hydrogen!
EV is just part of the electrification part of transport system. Difference is unlike most EV which rely on rare minerals used in lithium-battery cells, electric fuel cells just need hydrogen as fuel - which is far more abundant.
That is why the Chinese and US are looking for water on the Moon and Mars.
For real world e.g. Shell already testing hydrogen-based fuel cell ships in SG.
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/1...ernational
Posts: 45,631
Threads: 2,736
Likes Received: 6,472 in 5,639 posts
Likes Given: 4,259
(25-10-2022, 01:51 PM)Manthink Wrote: Ammonia or NH3- which makes up largely hydrogen and nitrogen... and has zero carbon.
Exist as gas at normal temp is not flammable and smelly else, you will be poisoned without knowing its presence.
That makes it a good "raw" material for producing hydrogen - the foundation of fuel-cell power generation.
![[Image: Blog-Images-danger-ammonia_164_0_600_1067.jpg]](https://www.hsmemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Blog-Images-danger-ammonia_164_0_600_1067.jpg)
Wrong liao, Bro!
The production of ammonia from natural gas is conducted by reacting methane (natural gas) with steam and air, coupled with the subsequent removal of water and CO2. The products of this process are hydrogen and nitrogen, which are the feedstock for the main ammonia synthesis.
Posts: 8,643
Threads: 1,097
Likes Received: 2,056 in 1,689 posts
Likes Given: 1
(25-10-2022, 01:54 PM)Huliwang Wrote: If hydrogen can reduce cost of living by 50% then it is worth considering taking the risk. .... 
CAN HAPPEN IN OTHER COUNTRIES
BUY NEVER UNDER PAP
EVEN IF FUEL IS CHEAPER THEY WILL INCREASE THE FUELTAX, GST N OTHER TAXES
Posts: 9,803
Threads: 450
Likes Received: 2,201 in 1,862 posts
Likes Given: 1,129
(25-10-2022, 01:57 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote: What is missing in the equation is the cost of producing the hydrogen. If it's very costly I'm not sure I'll be supportive of it. Clean energy is good but Singapore is too small to make a mark.
It has never been "cheap" to process and distribute in the energy market.
It took JTC decades and reclaimed entire Jurong Island to attract oil coy - it is a long term investment.
That is why today SG has one of the largest oil refinery in the world and a major distribution center - while we don't even have a single oil field !
Same strategic plan applies to future new energy market
Posts: 9,803
Threads: 450
Likes Received: 2,201 in 1,862 posts
Likes Given: 1,129
(25-10-2022, 02:42 PM)cityhantam Wrote: Wrong liao, Bro! 
The production of ammonia from natural gas is conducted by reacting methane (natural gas) with steam and air, coupled with the subsequent removal of water and CO2. The products of this process are hydrogen and nitrogen, which are the feedstock for the main ammonia synthesis.
Yes - there is close association between industrial production of ammonia and hydrogen.
However, the reason SG is involved in the former is for easier distribution of the later since transporting pure (liquefied super cold) H2 is more expensive and riskier . Kinda of like using exploiting proven production method and apply it to hydrogen-based energy market - end of the day future consumer like our children or grand children should have access to cheaper hydrogen-based energy.
(This post was last modified: 25-10-2022, 05:12 PM by
Manthink.)
Posts: 8,316
Threads: 652
Likes Received: 1,703 in 1,524 posts
Likes Given: 93
(25-10-2022, 12:14 PM)cityhantam Wrote: Hydrogen comes from where?
H2O
Posts: 8,316
Threads: 652
Likes Received: 1,703 in 1,524 posts
Likes Given: 93
(25-10-2022, 01:57 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote: What is missing in the equation is the cost of producing the hydrogen. If it's very costly I'm not sure I'll be supportive of it. Clean energy is good but Singapore is too small to make a mark.
U can produce at home using electrolysis
Posts: 45,631
Threads: 2,736
Likes Received: 6,472 in 5,639 posts
Likes Given: 4,259
(25-10-2022, 05:16 PM)dynamite Wrote: U can produce at home using electrolysis
Well, it's more efficient and economical to use electricity directly to run the car then!
Posts: 8,316
Threads: 652
Likes Received: 1,703 in 1,524 posts
Likes Given: 93
(25-10-2022, 05:20 PM)cityhantam Wrote: Well, it's more efficient and economical to use electricity directly to run the car then! 
Check with Lawrence Wong the details.
Posts: 21,130
Threads: 2,481
Likes Received: 5,509 in 4,684 posts
Likes Given: 767
“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"
Posts: 45,631
Threads: 2,736
Likes Received: 6,472 in 5,639 posts
Likes Given: 4,259
(25-10-2022, 06:00 PM)RiseofAsia Wrote: https://youtu.be/JGe8R0N20ps
https://www.jadecove.com/research/hydrogenscam
Hydrogen is Big Oil’s Last Grand Scam
.
.
Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)