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02-04-2024, 10:31 AM
This is interesting and very unusual...Also a clear indication Probowo intent to follow Johowi's pro-Beijing policy
China becomes the first foreign nation Prabowo has visited as president-elect, ahead of Indonesia's neighbours in the region, underlining the close partnership built up in the past decade under his predecessor, Joko Widodo. In contrast, out-going Jokowi, did not travel abroad as president-elect before being sworn in. But Jokowi's first visit after his inauguration was to China....That was followed by six more state visit to China through 2023.
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(02-04-2024, 10:31 AM)Manthink Wrote: This is interesting and very unusual...Also a clear indication Probowo intent to follow Johowi's pro-Beijing policy
China becomes the first foreign nation Prabowo has visited as president-elect, ahead of Indonesia's neighbours in the region, underlining the close partnership built up in the past decade under his predecessor, Joko Widodo. In contrast, out-going Jokowi, did not travel abroad as president-elect before being sworn in. But Jokowi's first visit after his inauguration was to China....That was followed by six more state visit to China through 2023.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/pra...es-4234366
Not surprising at all, like I commented earlier before the elections, the consensus of the Indonesian psyche is that of nationalistic development and eventually taking on a more prominent leadership role in this region.
To achieve its aspirations, partnering with China is the natural choice. However the dynamic is one of mutual strategic partnership, not "pro-China" as some people will wish for.
In the first place I don't even know why a lot of people like to anchor on this concept of pro this pro that, very cold war mentality ill-suited for the 21st century.
It wouldn't be much different if some other guy becomes president. This idea that Prabowo is a military racist who participated in the Chinese massacre in 1997 and therefore will be an anti-China military dictator is mostly just wishful thinking among westerners.
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Probowo is the tough guy. Below him is Jokowi's son. This tough and soft approach is a good combination. Most of the bigger trade deals ultimately require their approval.
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(02-04-2024, 11:53 AM)theold Wrote: Probowo is the tough guy. Below him is Jokowi's son. This tough and soft approach is a good combination. Most of the bigger trade deals ultimately require their approval.
Yea, it's a good combination. Prabowo represents the long standing establishment since the Suharto days whereas Gibran brings in the new ruling families led by Widodo. The only major faction left are the Islamists, but that should be manageable.
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Smart particle move …. buddy buddy with the new world lumber one. Likely go pitch the for fund the new capital.
The new Indonesia capital will be Probobo … his legacy project, showcase and to put him in history
China has the $$$ … Assmericunt has all the problems and troubles
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Visiting other countries has no meaning, unless you want wars and need weapons
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(02-04-2024, 01:08 PM)WhatDoYouThink! Wrote: Visiting other countries has no meaning, unless you want wars and need weapons
You mean Zelensky visting NATO countries looking for more "investment" in war against Russia ?
Over 2 years later, everyone can see how stupid such "visit" can be.
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