Should women do National Service now? Societal cost will 'far outweigh' benefits,
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Should women do National Service now? Societal cost will 'far outweigh' benefits, says Ng Eng Hen

The "societal cost" of making women in Singapore do National Service will "far outweigh" the benefits, says Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen. https://cna.asia/3LZKYpL
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Five Days of Hell - Training Women US Marines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7IShB709yw

whereas in SG crap jack neo movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkZt0uCdIrM


Seriously SAF just MAKE A FOOL Of themselves let Jack Neo film crap Army movies Ah boy to men , now Ah girl
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Let all men PRs and New Citizens do National SOCIAL Service

Why allow FREE FLOW of FTs without control

and still make them FREE Riders?

Why do we need 5 Mayors and 80 PAP Ministers? 
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But we are perpetually in need of healthcare workforce. Why not women to be drafted for healthcare for 2 years? It's a form of defence and no defence is better than preventive ones. You don't wait for a war to draft women and healthcare is already in a war zone before covid...
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No.

Agree with bargain hen.
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I think if FTs pay $2k/ mth OR serve 2 years FULL- TIME in Hospice

Then it will not look like Anti- Citizen Sentiments

that will give valid reasons for PAP being dishonourable

Why do we need 5 Mayors and 80 PAP Ministers? 
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It'll do the women some good if they learn to do some cooking, or learn how to render medical care. A period of 6 months or so will be sufficient.
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I have never doubt the cruelty and conflicting interest of this Govt. Is this another excuse to make Singapore short of manpower to import more FTs?

Win the World but lost your Soul. 
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Since we are not paid at market rate salary to do NS Service, then we have the full right not to defend foreigners. Let the foreigners fend for themselves and their own families.
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What he really meant is that PAP will lose votes from women. That is the 'societal' cost hahaha.
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Like what I posted in another thread, what benefits does Sinkie guys get for serving NS?

1) Pathetic tax rebate
2) Safra membership

What Sinkie guys have to folk out:

1) 2 years of opportunity cost, compared to Sinkie ladies and FT
2) Another 10 years wasted on reservist, RT, IPPT etc

1. I have served the nation in a combat unit for 2.5 + 10 years. I had fulfilled my duty as a citizen, but has the country do it's part for me?
2. I don't know where the threat of CCP is, but I know the threat of CECA is already at my doorsteps
3. I had been called a CCP, JHK, Pinoy, but they never called me a CECA..
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Sg gals must be kept fresh so can service the angmo masters... Soon all serving CECA masters. Lol
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(09-05-2022, 06:39 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote:  It'll do the women some good if they learn to do some cooking, or learn how to render medical care. A period of 6 months or so will be sufficient.

Secondary school home economic can teach some cooking. 

So it is better ladies to learn to shoot easier to operate weapons like Bolt action rifle, grenade launcher.
and medic skills. 

Anyway Ng is among the worst performer in Lee cabinet. 
To use foreigners in NS pose more danger.
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Why women cannot be trained as medic or nurse and serve in govt hospitals???
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Total defence is everyone business and LMW is right. NEH is like JoT. Not providing good answer. NS for woman can be in the form of health care support to the nation. Not necessary combat role.
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And all the minister's line of argument is flawed.

Women lose 2 economical years in workforce but men no issue? But women accepted in military command is OK and encouraged? So women can lead but cannot be soldiers? So foreigners let into Singapore because men went to be cheap labour soldiers? Then Mlaw Minister just one word thank you settle the bill?

Lol

Can the minister show the numbers to justify how he concluded that it doesn't make economical or societal benefit?

Can the minister tell us healthcare is well resourced with local manpower that we do not rely on foreigners? Didn't the covid highlighted the problem in healthcare sector?

This sg govt really like cannot make it. LKY if got eyes better send this incompetent lot to horlan asap.
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Please run a check to see how many ministers or top civil service have daughters age around 16. CSI needed... Lol
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(09-05-2022, 08:59 PM)watchfirst9 Wrote:  Secondary school home economic can teach some cooking. 

So it is better ladies to learn to shoot easier to operate weapons like Bolt action rifle, grenade launcher.
and medic skills. 

Anyway Ng is among the worst performer in Lee cabinet. 
To use foreigners in NS pose more danger.

But my surrounding gal friends all cannot cook Sad
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(09-05-2022, 09:17 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote:  But my surrounding gal friends all cannot cook Sad

young?
There is many special course offered from 2000s, 
home economy is perhaps no longer taught in some schools.
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(09-05-2022, 09:16 PM)Sticw Wrote:  Please run a check to see how many ministers or top civil service have daughters age around 16. CSI needed... Lol
Good point. If not acting out of self interest, then LMW has a good point. There are many aspect of total defence girls can serve for 22 months same like boys.
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