[sgbuffett]

Both Iran and Israel need to have an external enemy for the political elites to consolidate power within.

The last chance for peace in Israel was when Rabin was prime minister. Unfortunately, rfgt wing Israelis had him assassinated.

The perpetual propaganda is the enemies can never be negotiated with and are only satisfied with our destruction. It applies both to bith sides.

Iran and Israel used to be almost best friends in the region under the Shah. They are so far apart and had no common borders to fight about so there was no conflict between them.

Once the Ayatollah s take over Iran, theg quickly make Israel the enemy. On the other side the Israeli right wing played along and made Iran its enemy.

In both countries, this is useful for its military complex.

When Barak Obama came into the picture and offered Iran an olive branch to dismantle its stance and (terrorist) organisations  in exchange for economiic opportunities, Israel strongely opposed it. Had it  gone  ahead what is the worsr that can happen..?   Iran goes back on its words and sanctions are rre-imposed.Why was the Israel govt so adamant on not giving peace a chance? Because it is right wing and need Iran to be an enemy for its political purpose.

Anyway soon bith sides will get what they want  ....a full blown war after 11 months of constant escalation.

[sgbuffett]

Iranians are not even Arabs.
Palestianians are Arabs.

So why did iran sufdenly choose to make Israel its enemy

[pinkpanther]

Iranians are not even Arabs.
Palestianians are Arabs.

So why did iran sufdenly choose to make Israel its enemy

Certain interpretations of biblical prophecy suggest that nations, including Iran, may play a role in future conflicts involving Israel. For example, some reference verses from the Book of Ezekiel, particularly chapters 38 and 39, which speak of a coalition of nations coming against Israel in the latter days. These interpretations are often debated among theologians and scholars, and views can vary widely...

[Sentinel]

Certain interpretations of biblical prophecy suggest that nations, including Iran, may play a role in future conflicts involving Israel. For example, some reference verses from the Book of Ezekiel, particularly chapters 38 and 39, which speak of a coalition of nations coming against Israel in the latter days. These interpretations are often debated among theologians and scholars, and views can vary widely...

Since it is not verified and cannot be rationally verified, we should relegate such nonsense to the rubbish bin or else argue until the cows come home also no result, no conclusion

You think the rest of us are so free like you is it?

[pinkpanther]

Since it is not verified and cannot be rationally verified, we should relegate such nonsense to the rubbish bin or else argue until the cows come home also no result, no conclusion

You think the rest of us are so free like you is it?

what one person sees as rubbish, another might find value in.

Sometimes, accepting that not everyone shares the same viewpoint is a healthier approach than trying to convince others to conform to your perspective. Ultimately, it's about finding a balance between rational discourse and respecting differing beliefs.

If you are not free..why are you here?

[Sentinel]

what one person sees as rubbish, another might find value in.

Sometimes, accepting that not everyone shares the same viewpoint is a healthier approach than trying to convince others to conform to your perspective. Ultimately, it's about finding a balance between rational discourse and respecting differing beliefs.

If you are not free..why are you here?

I not free to talk religious nonsense, but other things I free

You already know that no two human beings share the same perception of God and yet you still complicate the matter by bring up a book called the bible, which in itself is not complete, as there are the Gnostic texts of Nag Hammadi, the Apocrypha, Pseudepigrapha, and other notable works.  

And this is still just scratching the surface

The summary is the King James bible is not the complete text

Besides, if I were the God Almighty, I would not need a book to propagate my teachings, or my commandments, or what not

Geddit?

[pinkpanther]

I not free to talk religious nonsense, but other things I free

You already know that no two human beings share the same perception of God and yet you still complicate the matter by bring up a book called the bible, which in itself is not complete, as there are the Gnostic texts of Nag Hammadi, the Apocrypha, Pseudepigrapha, and other notable works.  

And this is still just scratching the surface

The summary is the King James bible is not the complete text

Besides, if I were the God Almighty, I would not need a book to propagate my teachings, or my commandments, or what not

Geddit?

Show me evidences that the Bible is not complete...
if it is not verified and cannot be rationally verified, we should relegate such nonsense to the rubbish bin

Ultimately, whether the Bible is considered "complete" often depends on one's faith tradition and beliefs regarding scripture, revelation, and authority.

Geddit?

[EvertonDiehard]

Hamas cannot start a war on 7 Oct 2023, then "cry father and mother" when they are losing. There are consequences when you wake a sleeping lion. 

[Sentinel]

Show me evidences that the Bible is not complete...
if it is not verified and cannot be rationally verified, we should relegate such nonsense to the rubbish bin

Ultimately, whether the Bible is considered "complete" often depends on one's faith tradition and beliefs regarding scripture, revelation, and authority.

Geddit?

Then I will have no choice but to conclude that your mother did dropped your head on the hard floor when you're a toddler

[Sentinel]

Hamas cannot start a war on 7 Oct 2023, then "cry father and mother" when they are losing. There are consequences when you wake a sleeping lion. 

Since when did Hamas cry father cry mother? It is what Israhell asslickers like you have hoped for, but it ain't happening

What you're witnessing is the rest of the civilized world chastising Israhell IDF and turning Israhell into a genocidal regime and THE PARIAH STATE OF THE CIVILIZED WORLD

Enuff said! Israhell had lost! No doubt about it!

[sgbuffett]

Surgically going after Hamas is okay but bombing civilians is not.

[pinkpanther]

Surgically going after Hamas is okay but bombing civilians is not.

Do you condamn the Americans for dropping 2 atomic bombs? It also killed many civilians!

[Clyde]

Since when did Hamas cry father cry mother? It is what Israhell asslickers like you have hoped for, but it ain't happening

What you're witnessing is the rest of the civilized world chastising Israhell IDF and turning Israhell into a genocidal regime and THE PARIAH STATE OF THE CIVILIZED WORLD

Enuff said! Israhell had lost! No doubt about it!

Ya lor! So far never hear Hamas KPKB , only those zionist supporters here.

[Bw2023]

TS' argument is bit flawed

He thinks that Iran's #1 enemy is Israel

Iran's real enemy is the US

[Bw2023]

TS' argument is bit flawed

He thinks that Iran's #1 enemy is Israel

Iran's real enemy is the US

As to why the US is Iran's real enemy, that question has to go back to the 1950s when the US in partnership with UK, overthrew the democratically elected Prime Minister Mohamed Mossadegh so as to strengthen the autocratic rule of the Shah (Caesar) of Iran. 

Fast forward 20 years later, the Shah was overthrown by the Iranians themselves. 

You interfere in people's domestic affairs, you make enemies of them.

[Bw2023]

As to why the US is Iran's real enemy, that question has to go back to the 1950s when the US in partnership with UK, overthrew the democratically elected Prime Minister Mohamed Mossadegh so as to strengthen the autocratic rule of the Shah (Caesar) of Iran. 

Fast forward 20 years later, the Shah was overthrown by the Iranians themselves. 

You interfere in people's domestic affairs, you make enemies of them.

What would Iran be like today if the US hadn't staged the coup in the 1950s, is the subject of speculation 

One can also make the case that turning Iran into an eternal enemy is materially beneficial for the US to pump endless money into eternal wars that churn out profits for the likes of Raytheon, Lockheed Martin & other weapons makers of the Military Industry Complex

The MIC need enemies to make money

This was exactly what Roosevelt warned about the MIC - do not profit from wars!