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This tyoe of questions just ask ChatGPT or any AI engine.
By asking yhe question the PAP is trying to deceive us into thinking the WP is not really against the Allianz deal. Nothing is further from the truth
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An established pattern of behaviour from the WP
Abstaining from decisions is an established pattern of behaviour from the Workers Party. The roll call of WP abstentions from important bills is long.
All WP MPs abstained from the Presidential Elections Bill.
All of them abstained from the Human Biomedical Research Bill.
Two WP MPs abstained from the repeal of Section 377A.
In this respect, the WP cannot be relied on to make tough choices, especially when public views are divided. They are populists.
WP MPs even abstained from their own motion on the NCMP in 2016, when they were readying ex-WP member Prof Daniel Goh to take the seat that Ms Lee Li Lian declined to fill.
Incidentally, Prof Goh was expelled from the WP in 2023 for calling out the WP leadership.
WP abstained from a party position on Section 377A
Abstaining is a way to dodge and weave. You can claim credit for the speeches you made, but you don’t have to take blame for making any decisions.
In the case of the repeal of Section 377A, two WP MPs abstained from the Bill.
The Workers’ Party even abstained from having a party position on the issue. They consistently refused to state their party’s position on the repeal of Section 377A.
The WP, as a party, did not want to take a stand on this matter. It did not want to be seen as supporting the repeal and it did not want to be seen as opposing the repeal. They wanted to be all things to all men, and not too much of anything to anyone.
This is an avoidance of responsibility. Singaporeans elect members of parliament to take decisions on their behalf, with their interests at heart, not to shirk away from hard choices.
If this pattern of behaviour is already happening when the WP is in Opposition, what more the likelihood of it happening when they are forced to make real decisions for Singapore?
Can they make the hard choices if they are ever given the reins of government? There will be no one else to pass the buck to.
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(28-04-2025, 09:38 AM)moonrab Wrote: An established pattern of behaviour from the WP
Abstaining from decisions is an established pattern of behaviour from the Workers Party. The roll call of WP abstentions from important bills is long.
All WP MPs abstained from the Presidential Elections Bill.
All of them abstained from the Human Biomedical Research Bill.
Two WP MPs abstained from the repeal of Section 377A.
In this respect, the WP cannot be relied on to make tough choices, especially when public views are divided. They are populists.
WP MPs even abstained from their own motion on the NCMP in 2016, when they were readying ex-WP member Prof Daniel Goh to take the seat that Ms Lee Li Lian declined to fill.
Incidentally, Prof Goh was expelled from the WP in 2023 for calling out the WP leadership.
WP abstained from a party position on Section 377A
Abstaining is a way to dodge and weave. You can claim credit for the speeches you made, but you don’t have to take blame for making any decisions.
In the case of the repeal of Section 377A, two WP MPs abstained from the Bill.
The Workers’ Party even abstained from having a party position on the issue. They consistently refused to state their party’s position on the repeal of Section 377A.
The WP, as a party, did not want to take a stand on this matter. It did not want to be seen as supporting the repeal and it did not want to be seen as opposing the repeal. They wanted to be all things to all men, and not too much of anything to anyone.
This is an avoidance of responsibility. Singaporeans elect members of parliament to take decisions on their behalf, with their interests at heart, not to shirk away from hard choices.
If this pattern of behaviour is already happening when the WP is in Opposition, what more the likelihood of it happening when they are forced to make real decisions for Singapore?
Can they make the hard choices if they are ever given the reins of government? There will be no one else to pass the buck to.
Yes, abstention is allowed in the United Nations Security Council and the General Assembly. In the Security Council, a permanent member can abstain from voting, and if the resolution still receives the required majority, it can be adopted.
In the General Assembly, member states can also abstain, and their vote is not counted as a vote in favor or against.
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(28-04-2025, 09:45 AM)Scythian Wrote: Yes, abstention is allowed in the United Nations Security Council and the General Assembly. In the Security Council, a permanent member can abstain from voting, and if the resolution still receives the required majority, it can be adopted.
In the General Assembly, member states can also abstain, and their vote is not counted as a vote in favor or against.
Ya...well say.
And later complaining like hell, kpkb till the cows🐄 come home in General Election. 🤭🤣
till ththe cows cows come home the 🐄 come hometill the cows come home
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(28-04-2025, 09:50 AM)moonrab Wrote: Ya...well say.
And later complaining like hell, kpkb till the cows🐄 come home in General Election. 🤭🤣 till ththe cows cows come home the 🐄 come hometill the cows come home
The Forum is different mah
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(28-04-2025, 09:53 AM)Scythian Wrote: The Forum is different mah
No le, now WP is using it to win JK. 😎
But thet never tell us abstained in parliament.
That's the full hard truth.
Not half truth, or hidden truth..🤣
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(28-04-2025, 10:00 AM)moonrab Wrote: No le, now WP is using it to win JK. 😎
But thet never tell us abstained in parliament.
That's the full hard truth.
Not half truth, or hidden truth..🤣
PAP also kpkb all day long what
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The roti prata king is now busy flipping.
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(28-04-2025, 10:02 AM)Scythian Wrote: PAP also kpkb all day long what
After WP kpkb in rally..🤣
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(28-04-2025, 09:29 AM)TopSage Wrote: WP dun have full info, how to vote?
only Ng Chee bye have the full info
its is much later that the payment is out
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tsk tsk tsk tsk
what a new low
everyone knows WP got no power over this incident
wanna say its xi jinping fault also can
no one will disagree
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(28-04-2025, 09:22 AM)moonrab Wrote: SM Lee noted that while the labour MPs did not ask questions about the deal in Parliament, six PAP MPs and one WP MP did.
He added that the WP had abstained from voting when it came to the legislation to block the deal.
Why?..🤔
Please don’t comment if you don’t know the full background
Don’t be a PAP LAPDOG
Have you even know what’s in the terms and amendments of the new legislation
Just enjoy paying your 9% GST whenever you go till you die
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Maybe residents should vote out LHL and let him retire.
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(28-04-2025, 09:22 AM)moonrab Wrote: SM Lee noted that while the labour MPs did not ask questions about the deal in Parliament, six PAP MPs and one WP MP did.
He added that the WP had abstained from voting when it came to the legislation to block the deal.
Why?..🤔
Abstain does not necessarily mean agree with the motion.
tomorrow will be a better day
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Why didn’t LHL address the problem of the high costs of living?
Why is the government raise the GST?
Why waste taxpayers money to build the Founders Memorial?
Answer these problems that you have caused..
tomorrow will be a better day
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Much depends on the role of the NTUC Chief and whether he has the power to stop a deal proposed by the INCOME Insurance which has a full set of executives running the companies. If he has, then the matter would not have been referred to the parliament for a decision. Just like our President, he has not been given the power to run Singapore although he is the head of Singapore.
Omni is in my ignored list. This works well like he always bumps my post for me all the time. Thank u Omni.
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What the hypocrite general TCM said last night
Confirms he’s a serial liar
He is willing to lie, to say anything in order to get into parliament
Because he is do desperate to be minister again
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(28-04-2025, 10:23 AM)surfer Wrote: Abstain does not necessarily mean agree with the motion.
But never reject the motion too...😎
An act of not being responsible when motion go south.
But WP claim to be righteous in condemning NTUC Allianz deal during Election time is a hideous behaviour.
Never come out to tell voters actually they abstained from voting down the deal in Parliament.
Until Exposed. Why?
It is the same as RK case. Never come out to tell us they knew her lies
Until Exposed.
It is the same as the Religion and Racial mixing with politic in Singapore. When Noor meet with WP candidates, promoting Religious demand in Singapore politics.
WP didn't come out to tell us they never agree with him
Until Exposed.
We can see a repeat of such behaviour eversince Prit taken over WP leadership. In real time.
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(28-04-2025, 09:22 AM)moonrab Wrote: SM Lee noted that while the labour MPs did not ask questions about the deal in Parliament, six PAP MPs and one WP MP did.
He added that the WP had abstained from voting when it came to the legislation to block the deal.
Why?..🤔
wait for Pritnam to reply.
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Ex PM endorsing corruption.
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Singapore really doom under him ,lah
This kind of SM LJ CCBAI ( quoting Malaysian Traitor) can say?
How to respect him? How to respect PAP?
If don't know, he dare to anyhow talk on TV to make himself look stupid?
Sack half the Mayors & PAP Ministers
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(28-04-2025, 09:22 AM)moonrab Wrote: SM Lee noted that while the labour MPs did not ask questions about the deal in Parliament, six PAP MPs and one WP MP did.
He added that the WP had abstained from voting when it came to the legislation to block the deal.
Why?..🤔
Who's responsible for fiasco ? NTUC Management or the Parliament? Use brain. . . Ng CM has failed in his duty, hid his face, now a liability. Don't elect him MP.
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PAP needs to borrow the name of WP to tell us the deal is fine. Come on! You changed the law and NCM didn’t know and he was never taken action against with COI. This gives him an excuse to say “ I don’t know” so he can be act innocent . Am I missing something?
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Ntuc is fully under PAP jurisdiction. Blame WP is useless
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(28-04-2025, 10:22 AM)Ineedhelp Wrote: Maybe residents should vote out LHL and let him retire.
the earlier he retired the more we saved
at least 1.5m a yr
then after retired a=hv to pay for his pension for x yrs
similarly the sooner gct is gone the more pension we can save means more fund save
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