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pinkpanther · 16-12-2024, 10:12 PM

(16-12-2024, 09:59 PM)Hope Wrote: There are so many verses in Quran. Please find few verses below.Arabic Quran doesn’t ref Torah and Injeel as bibles, Old Testament or New Testament.
What is your point here by saying Quran supports the bible?

Do you ˹believers still˺ expect them to be true to you, though a group of them would hear the word of Allah then knowingly corrupt it after understanding it?Quran 2:75

Some Jews take words out of context and say, “We listen and we disobey,” “Hear! May you never hear,” and “Râ’ina!” [Herd us!]—playing with words and discrediting the faith. Had they said ˹courteously˺, “We hear and obey,” “Listen to us,” and “Unẓurna,” [Tend to us!] it would have been better for them and more proper. Allah has condemned them for their disbelief, so they do not believe except for a few.Quran 4:46

But for breaking their covenant We condemned them and hardened their hearts. They distorted the words of the Scripture and neglected a portion of what they had been commanded to uphold. You ˹O Prophet˺ will always find deceit on their part, except for a few. But pardon them and bear with them. Indeed, Allah loves the good-doers.Quran 5:13

Allah also said (interpretation of the meaning): {Among those who are Jews, there are some who displace words from (their) right places and say: ‘We hear your word (O Muhammad) and disobey,’ and ‘Hear and let you (Muhammad) hear nothing.’ And Ra’ina [in Arabic this means, ‘Be careful, listen to us and we listen to you,’ whereas in Hebrew it means ‘an insult.’] with a twist of their tongues and as a mockery of the religion (Islam). And if only they had said, ‘We hear and obey,’ and ‘Do make us understand,’ it would have been better for them, and more proper, but Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not except for a few.} [An-Nisa’ 4:46]

The phrase “[they] displace words from (their) right places” means that they misinterpret them and understand them in a way that Allah did not intend, doing this deliberately and inventing lies against Allah. (Tafsir Ibn Kathir)

Hope · 16-12-2024, 10:16 PM

https://youtu.be/uyvEmJ5zBC4?si=myB-PGRVs4PAcrH7

pinkpanther · 16-12-2024, 10:18 PM

(16-12-2024, 09:59 PM)Hope Wrote: There are so many verses in Quran. Please find few verses below.Arabic Quran doesn’t ref Torah and Injeel as bibles, Old Testament or New Testament.
What is your point here by saying Quran supports the bible?

Do you ˹believers still˺ expect them to be true to you, though a group of them would hear the word of Allah then knowingly corrupt it after understanding it?Quran 2:75

Some Jews take words out of context and say, “We listen and we disobey,” “Hear! May you never hear,” and “Râ’ina!” [Herd us!]—playing with words and discrediting the faith. Had they said ˹courteously˺, “We hear and obey,” “Listen to us,” and “Unẓurna,” [Tend to us!] it would have been better for them and more proper. Allah has condemned them for their disbelief, so they do not believe except for a few.Quran 4:46

But for breaking their covenant We condemned them and hardened their hearts. They distorted the words of the Scripture and neglected a portion of what they had been commanded to uphold. You ˹O Prophet˺ will always find deceit on their part, except for a few. But pardon them and bear with them. Indeed, Allah loves the good-doers.Quran 5:13

The Quran does not condemn the Bible that was read by the Christians during Muhammad's time..there are many verses

“He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel.” (3:3)

Oh you who have been given the Book, believe in what We have sent down, confirming what is with you.” (4:47)

The Qur’an considers the Gospel (Injeel -in Arabic,) to be a revelation to Jesus which Christians at the time of Muhammad had written down in their possession. (See: 3:3, 5:47, 6:114, 7:157, 19:30, 57:27, 5:46–47, 5:68) However, the Gospels are not a single book of revelations to Jesus, but rather several second hand accounts, written at different times, by different authors, after the death of Jesus. They were available at Muhammad’s time and this is almost certainly what Christians had in their possession. The Qur’an’s claim to confirm these scriptures makes no sense — which is why Muslims are compelled to claim Christians had some mysterious “original” Injeel that then inexplicably vanished without a trace, after Muhammad.

Lukongsimi · 16-12-2024, 10:21 PM

https://youtu.be/gUMEjXYzjmk?si=Bj4WP9Yo0yFAhcm5

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